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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Refute this
« on: September 01, 2016, 11:51:39 AM »
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (ﷺ) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. [..] He sat before the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: Messenger of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

—— Sunan Abi Dawud 4361, Eng Book 39, Hadith 4348, Book 40, Hadith 11

Many people claim that the prophet allowed to kill people who insulted him and quote the above Hadith. Please refute this.


Yahya Snow has responded to it over here:

https://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/converted2islam-refuted-on-germany-islamic-axe/

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What a shame.  Apparently, the cult of "Horn of Satan", as Prophet Muhammad himself called you, is fond on reducing Islam to nothing.  The following points will thoroughly take care of you, Insha'Allah:


Give evidence for "the horn of satan" please.


 Go to the page on this blog called " Breaking News: Saudi Arabia claims that 9/11 was a false flag!".

He made the same claim but was exposed heavily.

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@Abdullah But wasnt the miracle considering the fact Muhammad (pbuh) didnt have a microscope and knew this ?

Why doesn't that fall under the term miracle ?


 For example:

 When the Quran says that the gender of the fetus comes from the male it is accurate, however not a miracle. Although almost everyone at the time of the prophet and after that said that the gender comes from the female a group in ancient Egypt thousands of years before the prophet (peace be upon him) said something similar.

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@AbdullahAlMadi yes i have brother my apologies. I just wanted to make sure there was no scientific error in the quran.

It struck a cord in me considering how embryology is such a sensitive case for us.

Although for some reason deep down I've been skeptical of the western scientists embracing islam. Have you seen the section?

And i hope this will be the last time i ever doubt anything. But there is no denying this is a serious issue


 And I have a feeling that this won't be the last one. Overall the embryology in the Quran is accurate, buthe they do not qualify as scientific miracles. Most of their claims is that the Quran has plagiarized ancient Greek embryology but that has been dealt with above. No one said that western scholars embraced Islam. And on that section they had only dealt with 3 or 4 of them. Please read my very long comment on your last thread again.

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@khdrb been in english schools all my life,never showed interested in arabic until recently. Make sense ?

 You should stop lying. It is impossible for you to be an Arab in Kuwait and not learn Arabic. All of the English schools in Kuwait (which accept Arabs) teach Arabic.

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My point is theyre claiming to expose the embryology verses and the western scientists that embraced islam.

InshAllah they're wrong. There are books and such for references in the site. One in particular where it says muslims should admit the truth.

 I think that you might have to get banned Rami. This is ridiculous, why can't you stop visiting Anti-Islamic sites? Use the site that I gave you! Anyways, like I said before, I DON'T believe in those scientific miracles. The miracle of the Qur'an is its inimmitabilty. One of their claims is that the Quran plagiarized from ancient Greek embryology but that has been dealt with by Hamza Tzortiz.

http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/prophetic-studies/did-the-prophet-muhammad-plagiarise-hellenic-embryology/

The website Load Islam also made a page refuting the claims of anti-Islamics but the website is expired. Rami do you even read our comments? Or are you just trying to weaKen your faith and others faiths on purpose? If you continue this I will ask for you to get banned. Stop this brother. Enough is enough!

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone.  I thank Allah Almighty that my article was a good help for you. 

Dear brother Ramihs, please always feel free to ask all of your questions akhi.  Insha'Allah, you'll get them all answered here. 



Akhi Abdullah, you do realize that the Salafi link that you gave refutes you about the egg-shaped argument?  Here is what they said:

"Thus it is known that the Earth is round, and that is not contradicted by the fact that it is like an egg. Rather the false view is that which claims that it is flat, as the Church used to believe and for that reason used to curse and burn those scientists who said that it was round.

See: al-‘Almaaniyyah: Nash’atuha wa Tatawwuruha (1/130)" (https://islamqa.info/en/118698)

Here is the link where you argued this:
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2137.msg9273#msg9273

Take care,
Osama Abdallah


 Yup! And here we go again! Osama's ridiculous hatred against Salafis and Saudi scholars. Wether  you like it or not Osama there are rarely any  scholars  besidesthe scholars of Saudi Arabia and most scholars call them selves "Salafi". I'm a Salafi and so is everyone who follows proper Sunni Islam. And as for your attempts to attack the article that I put out:

Really? Are you kidding me? Yes, the Earth is "egg shaped" and everyone nowadays calls it that way. The main point is that it is round. The Earth actually looks a little like a pear according to Neil Degrasse Tyson. Their is nothing wrong with the link that I gave.

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 This issue has been discussed over here:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/does-quran-teach-that-earth-is-flat.html?m=1

I suggest that you read the link above.

All of the scholars except for a very small number agree that the Earth is round:

https://islamqa.info/en/118698



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 *once. You should really let us edit our comments.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

Ramihs,

I don't know if you're a christian buffoon pretending to be Muslim or not, but your nonsense is really becoming irritating.  It seems that all you want is to promote infidel materials here.  I don't mind you posting questions and have them answered.  And I don't mind you giving URLs for your questions.  But your nonsense is getting on my nerves.  The video that you gave is:

1-  Disproving the Quran through the Bible.  If it disagrees with the Bible, then it's false.

2-  Presenting nonsense that had been refuted centuries ago!

Dude seriously, either you get serious or get lost.  You are more than welcomed to post questions here that require answering, like the last one that I answered for you:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2240.msg9836#msg9836

But don't just dump material and play games.  If every time a non-Muslim sneezes, even if he's 100 miles away from you, and your faith goes into acute influenza and it's immune system starts shutting down, then I don't think you are fit to be a Muslim.  Yes, we all go through doubts and have questions (THIS IS WHY I HAVE THIS HUGE WEBSITE, because I've been through these troubles myself), but to be sooooooooooo ridiculous about it certainly makes you look suspicious.  You remind me of Allah Almighty's Warning to us from the infidels' tricks:

Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."

You're acting like a kid.  Please grow up and be more serious.  Don't just come and dump garbage here.  This will not be tolerated.  From now on, you either ask specific questions or I will ban you.  You may post links and references with your questions and points.

I hope this is clear.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah


 Osama, this place is like a hospital for people with weak faith. And you are the worst doctor over here. I was oncertainly like him before. Be patient and stop your nonsense.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

 I watched a portion of it and his claims have been debunked already. Read my other long comment please. Stop entering anti-Islamic sites. Why a really you entering them? Do you want to losee faith? Your faith is already pretty weak in the beginning so why make it weaker? He also talks Bouton contradictions In the Quran which have been dealt with many times. Use this website:

Www.searching-islam.com


Just because the video is 50 minutes long that doesn't mean that he made many points. His speech is very slow and he keeps on repeating the same point.

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 In "have you refuted the Irish infidel?".

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Someone please refute the scientific errors in quran by Dr. Robert Morey. It's like 50 mins long [censored]...


Read my comment on your last article.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Sufism is NOT Grave-Worship.
« on: August 27, 2016, 11:58:23 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum akhi,

Sufies are like Shias.  The average person who is not involved in their heresies, and is only carrying the title (Sufi or Shia) just because he was born with it is a Muslim.  But those who are too involved in their heresies are very dangerously bordering the line of polytheism and idol worship.

In the Islamic cults section, I wanted to actually add material on Sufies, but never got the chance:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links

The only true Islam is the Islam of the Middle:

[002:143]  Thus We have appointed you a middle nation, that ye may be witnesses against mankind, and that the messenger may be a witness against you. And We appointed the qiblah which ye formerly observed only that We might know him who followeth the messenger, from him who turneth on his heels. In truth it was a hard (test) save for those whom Allah guided. But it was not Allah's purpose that your faith should be in vain, for Allah is Full of Pity, Merciful toward mankind.


Just be a Muslim!

Just be a Muslim.  No need to associate yourself with any cult.  They're all false.  Only the Islam of the Middle unites all Muslims and drops all titles.  Everything else is fitnah (tumult).  As soon as you bring in a title into the conversation, the whole relationship between you and the other Muslim goes down the drain.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 No, the Sufis are not Shia. The Shiites are on a whole other level of kufr and bidaa. Sufis ate still technically Sunni and Muslim, it is just that they commit many heresies.

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 Assalamu alaikum,

 I apologize for not coming so early. I shouldn't have left Osama to help you since he can't do anything but show is his so called "scientific and numerical miracles". He rarely answers any questions, instead he copy and pastes his beloved "scientific and numerical miracles". Thsee following links deal with the so called "scientific mistakes" in the Noble Quran:


http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1

http://call-to-
monotheism.com/refuting_claims_of_scientific_errors_being_present_in_islamic_teachings

http://quranscientificerror.blogspot.com/?m=1

Always use this website to look for Islamic stuff instead:

www.searching-islam.com 


 Just so you know, there are many more Islamophobes and Anti-Islamics on the internet. So are you gonna make a thread for each one of them?

"Have you refuted Robert Spencer?"

"Have you refuted Ali Sina (forder Shiite NOT Muslim)?"

"Have you refuted Pamela Geller?"

The list will never end. The arguments which they use are just recycled. The "Dahaha" miracle is a hoax which has been refuted many times by both old and new Muslim scholars. What Osama is doing right now by changing the meanings of the Qur'an is probably a great sin. I posted a link to a rebuttal to this lie by a Muslim brother who is an expert in Arabic grammar and he could do nothing but lie and copy and paste the same stuff. Go read rebuttals by othere Muslim apologists who don't over advertise the so called "scientific and numerical miracles" and compare them to Osama's. You can see a HUGE difference of quality between them. Go read Bassam Zawadi's articles (which are also found on this website, but are mostly on his own website www.call-to-monotheism.com ) or any other Muslim apologist. I love Naik Zakir but he does make mistakes some times and one of them is the "Dahaha" thing. Each side (Muslims and Christians) has a bunch of apologists so you should expect a bunch of rebuttals from both sides and the Muslims mostly win. Go see Ijaz Ahmed's or Zakir Hussain's debates. They almost win ALL of the time. And they don't use scientific miracles! But they win with logic and theology, something which brother Osama can't do. You shouldn't mix religion with science! This is because science is always changing unlike religion. There was a time in were there was a scientific contradiction in the Quran centuries ago, but now science doesn't consider the verse to be a scientific mistakes since it is possible. Look at this:

https://callingchristians.com/2012/04/13/shooting-stars-and-jinns-the-islamic-perspective/

But now it doesn't:

(The same link above)

And this:

http://call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_ali_sina_s_article__shooting_stars__allah_s_missiles_to_scare_the_jins__1


So you shouldn't mix religion with science. Currently, praise to be Allah, I don't think that their is a contradiction between science and Islam, but they might appear later on. And as I showed to you, Christianity has way to many scientific mistakes. I was like you once before. But instead of putting my faith on some stupid scientific miracles I actually learned about all of the 3 Abrahamic religions and the evidence for Islam is huge and Christianity and Judaism all lead to Islam. There are Rabbis such as Abdullah ibn Salam and Ka'ab Al-Ahbar who converted to Islam because our prophet (peace be upon him) is in the Bible. I will discuss this issue later on on a bigger scale. I would also like to say that I don't intend to insult brother Osama in any way at all, it is just that some of the things that he does are unacceptable and must be stopped.

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