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Why the Koran is not against the pre-conception Divinity of Christ
brian464:
We know that the Koran is against certain sects of Christianity as detailed below:
(1) Those who believed that Mary was God ( this sect must have been very tiny and is probably an extinct sect of Christianity because modern Christians do not believe that Mary is God )
(2) Those who believed that Jesus was the biological son of God ( this sect again, must have been very tiny and is probably another extinct sect of Christianity because modern Christians do not believe that Jesus was the biological son of God
(3) Those who believe that Jesus was God on earth ( this is the belief of the majority of Trinitarian Christians today )
Since the Koran is so specific as to even point to the tiniest sects of Christianity ( two of which are extinct today) the fact that
the Koran never mentions those Christians who believe that Jesus was fully man on earth and not God anymore but
was God before He was born inside Mary's womb, makes me think that the Koran is not against one type of Christian, the Christian who believes in the pre-conception Divinity of Christ
submit:
--- Quote from: brian464 on February 23, 2016, 01:14:37 AM --- the Koran never mentions those Christians who believe that Jesus was fully man on earth and not God anymore but
was God before He was born inside Mary's womb, makes me think that the Koran is not against one type of Christian, the Christian who believes in the pre-conception Divinity of Christ
--- End quote ---
The reason that there exist a sect that believe that Jesus was God before and later turn fully human is due to the texts found in John 1:1.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3373.html#msg3373
--- Quote ---Word of God is not God. Its just God appointing a being to utter and confirm His words on earth.
Spirit of God is not God. Its just God appointing a being to breathe spirits to give life on earth/heaven.
Face of God is not God. Its just God appointing a place on earth as if facing Him.
--- End quote ---
Hence the concept of Jesus in the past having divinity is not supported. In fact Jesus do not even exist in other form before he was given life by God.
By just saying a single Word , Adam and Jesus become alive. The Creator simply said Be!
--- Quote ---Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. (3:59)
--- End quote ---
brian464:
--- Quote from: submit on February 23, 2016, 06:50:24 AM --- He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. (3:59)
--- End quote ---
Can the Arabic word "be" be translated as "become" too ? and if not, what is the Arabic word for "become" ?
Adam was created from dust and if Jesus was created, He would have been created from dust too but the Koran does not say that.
If Jesus was created, why involve the Spirit of God upon Mary ? and I believe the Spirit of God entered Mary's womb to become Jesus
brian464:
--- Quote from: submit on February 23, 2016, 06:50:24 AM ---Spirit of God is not God.
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In addition to my comments above, can you point to a Koranic verse that says that the "Spirit of God" is not God ?
brian464:
--- Quote from: submit on February 23, 2016, 06:50:24 AM ---Adam and Jesus become alive
--- End quote ---
In addition to both my comments in the two posts above, we know the Koran talks about both Adam and Jesus in the same context of being human but
by saying that both Adam and Jesus are human, the Koran clearly implies they were not human before they became human as clarified below
We know that the Koran clearly states that both Adam and Jesus became human but
before Adam came into existence, Adam was not human but dust and
before Jesus came into existence as a human, Jesus was not dust but
the Spirit of God as seen in the Spirit of God appearing upon Mary and I believe that Spirit entered Mary to "be" or "become" Jesus
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