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Offline H.

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Prophets between muhammad saws and jesus as
« on: June 28, 2017, 09:27:33 PM »
Assalamu alaikum,

I have a small question with regards to if there were prophets between muhammad saws and jesus as.

Because there seems to be in my faulty understanding a discrepancy brtween a hsdith and a couple of verses in the quran and i hope you will explain.

The hadith is bukhari volume 4 book 55 hadith 651 which says: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "I am the nearest of all the people to the son of Mary, and all the prophets are paternal brothers, and there has been no prophet between me and him (i.e. Jesus)."

And these quranic verses 36:14 onwards,  When We sent to them two but they denied them, so We strengthened them with a third, and they said, "Indeed, we are messengers to you." They said, "You are not but human beings like us, and the Most Merciful has not revealed a thing. You are only telling lies." They said, "Our Lord knows that we are messengers to you, And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message.." They said, "Indeed, we consider you a bad omen. If you do not desist, we will surely stone you, and there will surely touch you, from us, a painful punishment."And there came from the farthest end of the city a man, running. He said, "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask of you [any] payment, and they are [rightly] guided.

Regarding these verses ibn kathir ibn kathir writes that they got revelation: "so how could you receive revelation when you are human beings and we are human" and "ed from a number of angles. (The first) is that if we take this story at face value, it indicates that these men were Messengers from Allah, may He be glorified, not from the Messiah, peace be upon him"

Do how do i relate the hadith with the quranic ayat

Jazakallah khair

Offline AhmadFarooq

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Re: Prophets between muhammad saws and jesus as
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 01:58:17 AM »
A criticism of the explanation regarding these Qur'an verses by the early commentators: http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=36&verse=13&to=14

We don't know when and to which city these "messengers" were sent. There is no reliable evidence that mentions these "messengers" to have come after the birth of Jesus.

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Re: Prophets between muhammad saws and jesus as
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 02:29:49 PM »
As-Salam Aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

here are two articles on this issue:

https://diniyaallah.wordpress.com/2015/10/17/is-paul-a-prophet-according-to-quran/
http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=902

The word "mursaloon" used in the verse under question does not bear the same sense as rasul or rusul. These three so called "messengers" cannot be put along with those sent with a book (i.e. rusul, like David, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them all)!

Ahmed

 

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