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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: A Conversation I had with a Muslim convert regarding the crucifixion lie.
« on: May 03, 2022, 05:50:19 AM »Peace be upon you and all Muslims on earth,
I completely disagree with what you said in the previous post and I want to explain your errors.
You claimed that Prophet Mohamed invented lies about God and for this reason God poisoned him and made him suffer for 3 years before he died and cut off his artery, and you used verses (69:44-47) from Quran to prove your point.
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother. I said above it is a possibility, akhi. I don't know if it happened or not.
If what you understood from Quran is true, why then does God say in Quran:
• (53:2) Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,
• (53:3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
• (53:4) It is not but a revelation revealed,
God said in the verse above that Mohamed never spoke of his own, and you claimed that he invented lies about God.
These Noble Verses are saying that the Glorious Quran is not invented by any human, and that it is genuinely from Allah Almighty. That's all they're saying. They're not saying that the Prophet can never invent any lie on his own. As a human being, flesh and blood, dust and water, he can always end up sinning and even commit crimes. Read David's story and the 99 sheeps parable. David was a Prophet too, but he ended up committing adultery and murder.
Then God testified about Mohamed in Quran that he was of great manner which means that he followed the commandments of God as He instructed him to do.
• (68:4) And indeed, you are of a great moral character.
And indeed he had a great character and indeed he was a great moral example. But none of this mean that he could not possibly have invented lies on Allah Almighty. Again, it is only a possibility. I don't know if it happened or not. I only pointed out the Noble Verses that seem to support this possibility. Allah Almighty always knows best.
Regarding those who poisoned Prophet Mohamed, this was not a punishment from God because Mohamed invented lies about God, but this is because this is the will of God that EVERY Prophet will have enemies to abuse them because God wants to increase their punishment.
• (6:112) And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another decorative speech in delusion. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent.
But you don't know that for sure, brother.
You said that Mohamed may enter hellfire because of what you claimed above. This is completely incorrect because God said in Quran that He forgave all present and future sins that Mohamed has done.
• (48:1) Indeed We have given you victory, a clear victory.
• (48:2) So that God forgives your past faults and future ones, and completes His favor to you, and guides you to a straight path,
I wish you and all Muslims Eid Mubarak,
True brother, but there are other Noble Verses that speak about those whose GOOD deeds get sunk down and end up counting for nothing after they've changed:
47:28 ذلك بانهم اتبعوا مااسخط الله وكرهوا رضوانه فاحبط اعمالهم
[047:028] This because they followed that which called forth the Wrath of God, and they hated God's good pleasure; so He made their deeds of no effect.
25:23 وقدمنا الى ماعملوا من عمل فجعلناه هباء منثورا
[025:023] And We shall turn to whatever deeds they did (in this life), and We shall make such deeds as floating dust scattered about.
Again, I don't know if Jesus and Muhammad and David and others are in Heaven or Hell. if they've changed to evil, then the possibility of them going to Hell is high. I simply do not know. But you could not give one guarantee that a Prophet could not end up in Hell. I've given ample proofs in my posts. I can give a lot more, akhi. It gets even more interesting when you read about the satanic verses in both the NT and Hadiths:
www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm
Eid Mubarak to you and to your honorable family, insha'Allah.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah