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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Jinns and the Evil eye.
« on: August 25, 2017, 01:58:47 AM »
"EX-Muslims" have used these to conclude Islam contains ancient myths and so have some Atheists
So let me do a step-by-step refutation to this
First of all the evil eye,in Islam isnt a jinn possession or anything,it isnt anything superstitious,in Islam the evil eye means Jealousy,it is caused by the envier.
So it isnt really superstitious.
Now what is the evil eye then if it isnt what the Bible says it is?
well the answer is:
The evil eye is the name for a sickness or misfortune transmitted, usually with or without intention, by someone who is envious, jealous, and covetous or even a pious person from among man or jinn.
Treatment:
Primary symptoms of evil eye are feelings of physical and/or emotional tiredness, unexplained bad luck or un-favorable incidences and illness. It is thought to cause drowsiness, drooping eyelids, listlessness, fatigue, weariness, lack of concentration, restlessness, discomfort, cramps, convulsions, headaches, hiccoughs, clumsiness, stomachaches, dry coughs, diarrhea, itching, hair loss, dry skin vomiting, the drying up of the milk of nursing mothers and livestock, problems with the blood and eyesight, impairment of sexual activity, impotence, sterility, disorders in menstruation, problems in pregnancy and childbirth, deficient breast milk, mastitis, and among babies and young children, incessant crying and fretting, a baby’s refusal to suckle or drink milk and other symptoms include lack of rain, the drying up of wells, the withering of fruit, sudden loss to business, and so on.
And now Al-Jinn according to pagan mythology,before Islam Jinns were not what we as Muslims think it is,Jinns were thought of as a Goblin,a Pinched-ear creature,etc,etc,so they weren't really what Islam says they were
we believe they are immaterial,they are made of Smokeless fire.
This will need a long answer though:
You aren't going to find physical proof of Jinns, because Jinns don't manifest in the physical world like human beings do. It's important to know that the secular world only recognizes what can be physically proven to exist. So if someone is possessed or inflicted by the jinn, then only the physical symptoms would be recognized by the secular world. The person inflicted by jinn might even be considered schizophrenic or have some other mental disorder or just be regarded as crazy. Take the case of Pazuzu Algarad, here's a man who had people murdered and buried in his backyard and performed animal sacrifices. Neighbors spoke of his strange behavior and and his whole house was filled with trash, symbols, animal carcasses, images and cryptic writings. To me, it seems very clear that this was a case of a person who was deeply involved with Jinns. But to a secularist, this would probably be considered a crazy, mentally-ill person who was on drugs. If the secularist saw a video on YouTube of a person who is actually affected by a Jinn, he would just regard it as acting or someone with serious mental problems. Some Muslims at times will falsely jump to conclusions about the appearance of Jinns or spirits when they don't know what's going on.
Looking for physical proof of Jinns won't work, just like looking for physical proof of Angels. Jinn also go various different names in different cultures (spirits, demons, ghosts, etc) and are said to appear in more isolated places. A lot of movies today in pop culture are based on the phenomenon of Jinn.
But if you're really really eager to see a Proof of al-jinn(and since you probably dont live like me in Arabia in a desert-area where there are sightings of shadows,paranormal activities(AKA jinn Activity) and there are alot of cases of Ruqya that are observable)
Then:
Ask anyone in your Muslim community if there is a Ruqya specialist. Then, ask him if you could join in to watch a session or two. However, you should be aware that the Ruqya specialist should not be doing any funny stuff, meaning only recitation of the Qur'an and what is allowed in the religion like dry spitting, blowing air. You should also be aware of his character and religion before you do anything with him. He should at least be someone that everyone in your community knows about his piety. I'm saying this because there are liars out there that claim to be Ruqya specialists when they are actually magicians.
I believe this is the best way to affirm your faith.
Donot fall into haram stuff that is impermissible though since trying to contact the spiritual world in a manner of Shirk is extremely fatal in the eyes of Allah SWT,and can get you to hell completely,its even in the hadith that Allah SWT will NEVER forgive the black magician.
So let me do a step-by-step refutation to this
First of all the evil eye,in Islam isnt a jinn possession or anything,it isnt anything superstitious,in Islam the evil eye means Jealousy,it is caused by the envier.
So it isnt really superstitious.
Now what is the evil eye then if it isnt what the Bible says it is?
well the answer is:
The evil eye is the name for a sickness or misfortune transmitted, usually with or without intention, by someone who is envious, jealous, and covetous or even a pious person from among man or jinn.
Treatment:
Primary symptoms of evil eye are feelings of physical and/or emotional tiredness, unexplained bad luck or un-favorable incidences and illness. It is thought to cause drowsiness, drooping eyelids, listlessness, fatigue, weariness, lack of concentration, restlessness, discomfort, cramps, convulsions, headaches, hiccoughs, clumsiness, stomachaches, dry coughs, diarrhea, itching, hair loss, dry skin vomiting, the drying up of the milk of nursing mothers and livestock, problems with the blood and eyesight, impairment of sexual activity, impotence, sterility, disorders in menstruation, problems in pregnancy and childbirth, deficient breast milk, mastitis, and among babies and young children, incessant crying and fretting, a baby’s refusal to suckle or drink milk and other symptoms include lack of rain, the drying up of wells, the withering of fruit, sudden loss to business, and so on.
And now Al-Jinn according to pagan mythology,before Islam Jinns were not what we as Muslims think it is,Jinns were thought of as a Goblin,a Pinched-ear creature,etc,etc,so they weren't really what Islam says they were
we believe they are immaterial,they are made of Smokeless fire.
This will need a long answer though:
You aren't going to find physical proof of Jinns, because Jinns don't manifest in the physical world like human beings do. It's important to know that the secular world only recognizes what can be physically proven to exist. So if someone is possessed or inflicted by the jinn, then only the physical symptoms would be recognized by the secular world. The person inflicted by jinn might even be considered schizophrenic or have some other mental disorder or just be regarded as crazy. Take the case of Pazuzu Algarad, here's a man who had people murdered and buried in his backyard and performed animal sacrifices. Neighbors spoke of his strange behavior and and his whole house was filled with trash, symbols, animal carcasses, images and cryptic writings. To me, it seems very clear that this was a case of a person who was deeply involved with Jinns. But to a secularist, this would probably be considered a crazy, mentally-ill person who was on drugs. If the secularist saw a video on YouTube of a person who is actually affected by a Jinn, he would just regard it as acting or someone with serious mental problems. Some Muslims at times will falsely jump to conclusions about the appearance of Jinns or spirits when they don't know what's going on.
Looking for physical proof of Jinns won't work, just like looking for physical proof of Angels. Jinn also go various different names in different cultures (spirits, demons, ghosts, etc) and are said to appear in more isolated places. A lot of movies today in pop culture are based on the phenomenon of Jinn.
But if you're really really eager to see a Proof of al-jinn(and since you probably dont live like me in Arabia in a desert-area where there are sightings of shadows,paranormal activities(AKA jinn Activity) and there are alot of cases of Ruqya that are observable)
Then:
Ask anyone in your Muslim community if there is a Ruqya specialist. Then, ask him if you could join in to watch a session or two. However, you should be aware that the Ruqya specialist should not be doing any funny stuff, meaning only recitation of the Qur'an and what is allowed in the religion like dry spitting, blowing air. You should also be aware of his character and religion before you do anything with him. He should at least be someone that everyone in your community knows about his piety. I'm saying this because there are liars out there that claim to be Ruqya specialists when they are actually magicians.
I believe this is the best way to affirm your faith.
Donot fall into haram stuff that is impermissible though since trying to contact the spiritual world in a manner of Shirk is extremely fatal in the eyes of Allah SWT,and can get you to hell completely,its even in the hadith that Allah SWT will NEVER forgive the black magician.