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Three types of Christians that the Koran is against
brian464:
There are three types of Christians that the Koran is against:
(1) Those Christians who believe that Jesus is the biological son of God ( offspring )
(2) Those Christians who believe that Mary is also God
(3) Those Christians who believe that Jesus was fully God on earth.
So if any Christian does not believe any of the 3 above but
still believes that Jesus was God before coming to earth to become fully human in mind, body and spirit ( the trinity of mind, body and spirit ) on earth,
that type of Christian does not go against the teachings of the Koran since the Koran is only against Jesus being fully God on earth
submit:
Quran will be against such Christians too; that believe God become fully human on earth. As God did not transform into a fully human but rather create a fully human inside a womb of a woman
--- Quote ---They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. (5:72)
Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. (3:59)
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brian464:
--- Quote from: submit on February 19, 2016, 10:00:52 AM ---Allah is the Messiah
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I do not know of any Christian who says that God is the Messiah, but rather Jesus is the Messiah
--- Quote from: submit on February 19, 2016, 10:00:52 AM --- worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord.
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The gospel says that Jesus did say to worship God because
Jesus was no longer God on earth but fully human in mind, fully human in spirit and fully human in body ( the "trinity" on earth, "mind, body, spirit" was fully human )
--- Quote from: submit on February 19, 2016, 10:00:52 AM --- he who associates others with Allah
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Here again, its clear from the gospel that Jesus clearly told his followers, that God is God and Jesus is fully human and so God in heaven was all by Himself without any associates
--- Quote from: submit on February 19, 2016, 10:00:52 AM --- He created him from dust
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The creation of Adam and Jesus being born in Mary's womb is very different, Adam was created from dust and the Jesus was not from dust but by God's Spirit going into the womb of Mary
AhmadFarooq:
I am definitely out of my depth here, but don't Christians (at-least one group of them) believe in the "hypostatic union" - a term used to describe how "God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time"? "... Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man. (...) Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one personality. (...) When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (...) In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever."
Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/hypostatic-union.html
Also, if Jesus is the Messiah and if "the son, the father and the spirit" are one, then doesn't it mean that "the son, the father and the spirit" all "three" can be called the Messiah?
Regards,
brian464:
--- Quote from: AhmadFarooq on February 19, 2016, 05:51:38 PM --- Christians (at-least one group of them) believe in the "hypostatic union"
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Yes, the "hypostatic union Christians" is one group of Christians that the Koran is against, which is, the group that says that Jesus was God on earth but
as to other christians who believe that Jesus was not God on earth, the Koran does not address those Christians who believe that Jesus was God but
Jesus is not God anymore since He was born inside Mary's womb when God's Spirit entered Mary's womb to become fully human
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