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Kabul fell into the hands of the Taliban; this is only true for the Western press!
Kabul is liberated by the Taliban, for others.
The Afghan Taliban have indeed liberated their country from the Anglo-American-Zionist invaders, this strangely reminds the fall of Aleppo in Syria, lamented in its time by all the Western media!
The invaders return home with their tails between their legs. The Taliban are Afghans, by the way and each people has its specificities. Afghanistan was occupied by the Anglo-American-Zionist invaders, the administration in place was corrupt and in their pay. The Afghans didn't want it anymore, and wanted to regain their independence.
 
Thus the people of Vietnam and the people of Afghanistan will have confirmed that a people can turn an over-equipped, over-funded occupation army of gigantic technological superiority. In any case, it is a positive sign for Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Palestine. By the way, for the Anglo-American-Zionist invaders, the Vietnamese syndrome reappears followed by another Afghan syndrome.

The all-out Western press has told us that during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan, the Afghan resistance fighters were heroes fighting against the world's first army.
Today after dismissing the Yankee invaders, the Afghans are presented as obscurantist, who oppose the most powerful country in the world and Western civilization.
How many times have we been presented with this Afghanistan as completely retrograde, even medieval, It is to make believe that the Taliban arouse terror and yet it is the same Afghans who had after 20 years of war, understood that the imperialists do not want them any good, and with the occupiers the reality is quite different, they are sowing desolation and death everywhere with their incessant wars. The imperialist does not fight terrorism, but creates, finances and arms groups that practice terrorism.

I welcome the departure of the Anglo-American-Zionist invaders. There, in Afghanistan, the coalition has forty-nine nations that are part of ISAF and it is among at least the top 5 military powers in the world. And now they are leaving with their tail between their legs, leaving a corrupt country and without even having thought of helping economic development.

I always rejoice when a people kicks the backs of invaders. That makes me happy indeed. This withdrawal is a victory for the Afghan people, and I take as a good example it is not because the situation was disastrous for the Algerian people in 1962 following independence, that one had to complain about the departure of the French. .

How you look at the Taliban depends very much on how Western propaganda portrays them. When in power, from 1996 to 2001, the Taliban applied radical Islam as did Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Gulf countries. At the time, opium production had fallen by 90%.
The Afghan narco state was a product of American imperialism to hide the plunder of important resources: Copper, rare earths, lithium ...
It should be noted that 30 to 45 thousand Western civilians were deployed on the Afghan territory to exploit the natural resources of the country without counting the 8 thousand Colombian mercenaries of the FARC, recovered by the CIA are in charge of monitoring the culture of the drug as well as its delivery. .
   
The unacknowledged goal of this drug allowed the CIA to finance covert operations to destabilize countries resisting the US empire. Plunder and massacre are indeed the two breasts of the USA, hypocrite master of an abject double game, in addition to being an arrogant although poor giver of lessons, be careful not to say, it is indeed the USA which destroyed the Afghanistan as well as Libya, Iraq, Syria.

But I hate this moralizing and protective attitude of the great Western Democrat whose ulterior motives we discover a few decades later. Indeed the Americans have set up with billions of dollars an administration to their boots of which there are only thousands of Afghans trying to flee the country.

As for the fight against terrorism dear to the West, and in this international coalition are at least the 5 leading military powers in the world, simple objectivity says that it is only a term of propaganda. Nowhere are terrorists invading other countries to install a government of their own. It was the Anglo-American-Zionists who did it.
 
We also see the French Army in the Sahel, charged among other things with protecting and financing through Christian NGOs under the Vatican, Terrorist groups.
In the Malian Sahel, the French army will march with Civitas, because the hostages quickly become Muslims.
Who is the terrorist?
All the Western press is worried about the plight of Afghan women, but in fact it's just a pretext, and this is where Western machos have an opportunity to spit on Muslims and pretend they care. womens rights. Yet the lot of ultra-Orthodox Jewish women is no better, but Westerners do not care.

In fact, they don't care about the fate of Afghan women. They were never concerned about Afghan women during the time of the invaders, yet with a presence of 20 years, this international coalition had not built any schools or hospitals for the Afghan people. This underdeveloped country of Afghanistan was therefore of no interest to the West. Except for these natural resources and its Opium By neglecting the degraded internal situation of the Afghan population, Western countries have allowed conditions favorable to anarchy, to the law of the most violent to insecurity, to develop there. - to say a failure or an abandonment of the international community in Afghanistan, especially when we see that the basic work vis-à-vis the Afghan civil society accomplished by the West is minimal enough not to say totally absent.

The international coalition could not achieve any of its goals because it began by sweeping away everything the country had organized; what the Americans themselves subsequently recognized. he population is increasingly hostile to the presence of Western occupiers, that corruption and drug profits have never reached such levels.
But now after the coalition debacle, then they are going to write tearful pleas about Afghan women. Not for women, of course, but just to demonize the Taliban, who they will not forgive for defeating the handsome, well-shaven Westerners, well equipped for a war ballad.
This defeat of the Anglo-American-Zionist invaders will hurt Western racists, but it will be a good example for all the others, scenes of panic that we saw at Kabul airport reminded us of those in Saigon during the US defeat in Vietnam.
However, what are these Afghans who cling to aircraft, certainly not Western NGO employees, but surely CIA-backed Afghan paramilitary forces agents. They are members of the Khost Protection Force (KPF) and the National Directorate of Security (NDS), counterinsurgency auxiliaries, mercenaries, have committed summary executions and other serious abuses with impunity, these rapid intervention forces illegally killed civilians during night operations, subjected prisoners to enforced disappearances, abducted and raped women, attacked health establishments on the pretext that they had provided medical treatment to rebel fighters .

The Taliban have frequently committed violations of the laws of war and human rights. More than certain, the CIA-backed Afghan forces have allegedly committed so many crimes that the Taliban are altar boys against them.

Our lesson givers are just racists now obsessive mantra, they hate Muslims. There was also a whole propaganda worthy of colonization to pass off the Afghans as backward barbarians. They will never forgive them for defeating the Allied oppressor when they themselves never dared to revolt against his imperial designs.
In fact, they blame the Taliban for having the courage to cast out a tyrant and for bringing out their own cowardice.

The failures in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, and their dire consequences, were evident from the start each time. Driven out of Afghanistan, Americans can no longer see themselves as the world's policemen. We can therefore say that the Taliban contributed a lot to the defeat of this gendarme… !!!!!
One of the lessons of the American defeat is that imperialism and the occupation must be fought vigorously by the peoples in order to be liberated.
It will thus be important that territorial respect be elementary in the application of International Law and above all that the will of a people is also honored otherwise it is no longer democracy, but anarchy.

In the end, as Machiavelli says: "We start a war when we want, we end it when we can. "

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Islam will forever remain the staunch enemy of the church who believes that the struggle of the cross against the crescent is still relevant, for her the danger is always present, as we can see from the words of British scholar specializing in Islam: For centuries, Islam has been the great enemy of Christendom, because Christendom was not in direct contact with any other organized state comparable in power to Muslims.

The challenge to Islamic dogma has lasted for fourteen hundred years and will never cease. What do you expect the Muslim religion has the real gift of irritating the Christian church especially with the reassuring confidence in the written testimonies that Muslims have received in the revelation of the Qur'an. Because we must not be mistaken, beyond the recurring quarrels between Christians and Muslims on such or such a theme, the real fight is aimed at our affirmation in the divine aspect of Islamic revelation and it is in this sense that a Christian cleric had honestly testified that "Islam offers a virility and a security which no longer exist in Christianity"

Giving an origin to Islam in order to demonstrate that it is only a revival of old Jewish and Christian customs, I find that quite simply fascinating, especially since it is Christian religious defenders of a systematic Christian humanism who claim it loud and clear.

The church with its Catholic Institutes and Research Centers tries to launch a whole armada of pseudo-specialist priests or crooked priests with the aim of dissimulation, other than that of teaching the truth more objectively but with the aim being to demonstrate that the 'Islam is only a revival of old Jewish and Christian customs, I find that quite simply fascinating, especially since it is Christian religious who claim it because mistrust would be in order.

These different religious of all tendencies refuse to see the evidence that makes Christianity a belief of transition between strict Judaism and pagan culture, without forgetting that Christianity resulting from Judaism has generated Christianized sects whose each partition tries to justify human actions and choices totally opposed to the original teachings of the ancient Hebrew writings. However, it should also be noted the disturbing absence of written testimonies of events supposed to have taken place and the origins of the various texts of the Gospels also remain very controversial this of course throws a legitimate doubt whereas the official version of these Gospels does not been validated more than three hundred years after their supposed writing. What is ridiculous, however, is being able to draw conclusions from a few extracts.

I ask myself more and more the following questions:

-How do these people of the Church (Abbot and Missionary Priests) take a deep interest in Islam when, on their own dogma, they ignore almost everything?

-What gives these Christian clerics authority to speak about Islam?

Most certainly the great fear of having understood that Islam is the pinnacle of the revelation which abolishes all that is previous, and in the situations of fear, even of anguish, which followed, the role of media has not always been very positive.

-When will some Christian religious hypercritics stop spouting such trivialities, fariboles which amount to an attack on the most elementary freedom, of belief?

This kind of work that surfs the distortions and lies about Islam through the ages has not been limited to a small number of scholars and clergy. But they are part of the popular culture of the whole church.

If the church thinks through this kind of work to make an effort to modernize the common reading of the religious, I will say once again that this kind of small elitist causes have created doubts about the origin of Islam, instead to study this religion with the tools of historical and theological analysis without seeing this belief with pink glasses of Western legend which shows that one aspect of false Christian representations of Islam

For a very long time, Muslims were content to accept what Christians said about themselves, although they saw that there were many contradictions and inconsistencies in the writings and in the official historiography of Jesus Christ. came to realize the Judaism which had been lost. The only essential difference: is Jesus God. He became so for Christians 300 years after his death at the request of Emperor Constantine. Christianity was born out of dissent within the Jewish community. It is not an invention of the Romans who, moreover, fought it for a long time. Islam on the contrary has nothing to do with Judaism, nor with the Christian sect: it is a pure divine product!

Today, most Muslims would likely agree that the majority of the distortions about Islam come from crooked clerics and the media, whether in newspapers, magazines or on television, and there is a problem of representative ness and nature of sources.
What haven't we heard on the subject?

That Allah is an ancient pagan god?
That Islam is not the product of divine revelation?
That Mohamed (SAWS) is not a prophet?
That Mohammed (SAWS) never had the Qur'an in his hands?
That the Qur'an is the work of Waraqa Ibn Nawfal, who is sometimes called Jewish Rabbi, sometimes Christian priest or even an Ebionite (especially in the sources of the fascosphere)?
That Allah is an ancient pagan god?
That the systematic questioning of Islam as a source of violence is easily admitted
That Islam, a legacy of a Judeo-Nazarene heretical sect that never existed, except perhaps in the minds of some zealous preachers, and is not a historical reality.

Indeed, there is no evidence of the existence of Nazarene heretics, neither in Syria nor in Arabia. The notion of the Judeo-Nazarene masks the will to the exclusion of the divine revelation of Islam.

Why did these sacred Judeo-Nazarenes need another religion and why despite the supposed presence of Christianity and Judaism in Arabia, this region did not become Christian or Jewish, it would have been easier for them?

These speeches do not pass anymore!!!!!!



In terms of the number of people affected by such information, the mass media certainly have a more widespread impact on the Western view of Islam.

The fairest response of Muslims to Christians is contained in the Qur'an which is intended to be a collection of answers to questions and reminders, precisely concerning the First Books ("The old leaves: the leaves of Abraham and Moses" ) and the Gospels. Is it not said (to the prophet of Islam) in the Quran 88: 21-22:

“Well, call back! You are just a reminder; you have no authority over them!

(Remind them of the blessings of God and the signs of His uniqueness, for you are only responsible for reminding them of all this. You have no authority over them.) ”.

Finally, to maintain that the prophet Islam is the editor of the Qur'an is unparalleled ineptitude, at this level and if Christianity is a continuation (refused by the Jews) of the Jewish religion, Islam n 'has no connection and especially it is not because there are names (Abraham, Jesus, Mary…) common between the Bible and the Qur'an that they are identical people. Just because there are some common concepts between these two beliefs does not mean that they are identical concepts. The Judeo-Christian belief and the Islamic belief are quite simply incompatible, and therefore can in no way go hand in hand.

This is the paradox of Christianity, wanting to demonstrate what does not exist to those (Muslims) who are convinced of the divine existence of their belief; you almost wonder which ones are the most believers !!!!!!
Christianity with ambitious thinkers in theological debates and ethno-religious divides manages to discover the supposed Judeo-Nazarene origin of Islam, however this same Christianity completely ignores a period of 18 Years in the biography of Jesus Christ and any explanation of this period is therefore made only of hypotheses because the writings of Christianity say nothing of these hidden years, or dark years, I must admit that the opinions of the Church on itself are not explanations just far-fetched quibbles to get out of a contradiction, not without reason, what is at stake is the primacy of dogma. Relics, parades, pilgrimages, bleeding statues, Lourdes, Fatima and miraculous healings?

This is sensational!!!!!!!


Wahrani

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In my exchanges with a Christian religious apologist, a discussion on violence in religion, he did not fail to quote part of the verses of Sura 5.32 in order to accuse us of passing Islam as a peaceful religion. and which in his eyes this is far from being the Truth, he said while adding that verse 32 of sura 5 is often brandished by defenders of Islam, in an incomplete way, to make believe that the murder is forbidden in Islam and that whoever kills a man, it is as if he had killed all mankind. Murder is obviously not forbidden in Islam as these people want us to believe - he concluded!

So as we can see with my Christian antagonist, it is about debates of ideas, to convince the other, to make admit a policy or a reality, Islam recommends to choose the best style, the good thought, smile and the right attitude as it says in verse 125 “and discuss with them in the best way.” Islam recommends wisdom and the right exhortation:
"And tell my servants to speak the best of the best words", (Qur'an 53:17).
And the Qur’an also continues: "Repel evil with what is best".

Reading such lines, we are very far from the Qur'an which literally horrifies on the other hand we can also see that reason is not the obstacle to faith in Islam, but is a necessary condition (for example , Qur'an, 2.44; 3.190; 16.12-13, 67; 20.54; 45.5).
Before any gratuitous condemnation, it would be important that we must first separate individual cases and personal interpretations from actual religion, so it is necessary not to condemn so much a book or text solely to literal, figurative or simply a result. It is not enough to take a few passages from the Qur'an to make it say something that it is not really saying. Again, opponents who take a verse out of context, and out of its legal understanding, are in there. 'error, but just as the detractors, who in all ignorance and puffed up with pride, take the verses out of context, and ignore all the rules of Islam, thinking that the Fiqh (jurisprudence), stop reading a single isolated verse.

The Qur'an is read and understood as a whole, in the sense that one must take into account everything that God says in his revealed Book. Thus, when the killing of criminals is expressed, there is also expressed forgiveness, mercy, and the alternative which preserves the life of even the criminal is better in the sight of Allah. For Islam the human person has absolute value, because the individual reflects humanity as a whole: “The value of the individual is neither numerical, nor rational, nor social; it is a gift from God himself, a gift for human beings as such - regardless of cultural peculiarities, historical significance or striking self-confidence.

In the case of Islam, the Qur'an is the ultimate and only authority which recommends that the worst sins are to associate or associate others with God and to assume the role of God in it. interpretation and application of the divine Message is the greatest form of blasphemy. Again, this is not the Book, but the interpretation of men. We must not forget that Islam is a peaceful religion which aims to give man moral standards of exceptional quality.

The first verse of the Qur'an, "The Opening" explains this very well by dividing people into two categories:
1. Those whom God has blessed!
2. Those who have gone astray!

However, the actions of the followers of radical religious (terrorists, etc.) cannot be attributed to violence in the religion who in fact remain idolaters in strictly Koranic terms because they associate others (namely their leaders) with God. instead of going to the source themselves, i.e. the authority of the Qur'an instead of treating the precepts of the Qur'an as a guideline instead of a definitive Book.

The story of the sons of Adam (Hâbîl and Qâbîl) appears in Sura 5 (Verses 30-35), here is what the Qur'an reports:

27 And tell them the story of Adam's two sons truthfully. Both offered sacrifices; that of one was accepted and that of the other was not. This one said, "I will surely kill you." - "Allah accepts," said the other, "only from the pious. "

30 His soul prompted him to kill his brother. So he killed him and thus became one of the losers.

32 This is why We have prescribed for the Children of Israel that whoever kills a person not guilty of murder or corruption on the earth, it is as if he had killed all men. And whoever gives him life, it is as if he gives life to all men. Indeed Our messengers came to them with the proofs. And then lo and behold, in spite of that, many of them began to commit excesses on the earth. "

The Qur'an, once again proves that those who kill (or kill themselves) in the name of a sacred demand betray the very message of Islam which firmly prohibits murder. and it is verse 33 that does indeed speak of what the enemies of Islam suffer who also strive to corrupt the earth:

33 "The reward of those who make war against Allah and His Messenger, and who endeavor to sow corruption on the earth, is that they are killed, or crucified, or their hand and leg are cut off. opposites, or that they be expelled from the country. It will be ignominy for them here below; and in the hereafter there will be a tremendous retribution for them, "

However, verse 34 states as mercy and compassion:
34. Except those who repented before falling into your power: know that then Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. "

The Qur'an indeed treats very cruelly this sinful group which it regards as the enemy of Allah.
But to call it a cruel book because of it, you have to ignore a very crucial element in the rest of the book that compensates for this cruelty at every turn: God in the Quran, besides being all-powerful, all-knowing etc. is also all compassionate and all merciful. In fact, these two are the most repeated properties of God. Each chapter begins with the sentence: “In the name of God, the most merciful, the most merciful ..

So yes, you can focus on a specific verse against the enemies of God and call the Qur'an cruel if you wish. But it wouldn't be good judgment when you also know that those who are subjected to this cruelty are also offered endless opportunities to repent at a superhuman level of mercy and compassion.

Apart from the Quran, the prophet of Islam illustrated the mercy of God by saying that "All your sins are forgiven if you remove a thorn from your neighbor's path."
So murder in Islam is forbidden, but in times of war enemies can be killed (in combat), the worst criminals among them can be executed (by the competent authorities, and by the average Muslim, just like all states of the earth practice it or practiced it).

But a person who surrenders, and abandons his crimes, cannot be condemned to death, since taking the life that Allah has made sacred is forbidden (except rightly as stated before) as Allah says in verse 151 of the sura 6: "151.
Say: “Come on! I will repeat to you what your Lord has made you a sacred duty: do not associate anything with Him; treat your fathers and mothers with kindness; do not kill your children because of need: We will provide you and theirs for a living; stay away from turpitude, whether apparent or hidden; do not kill anyone, for God has made a person sacred, except in the exercise of a legitimate right. "This is what God has prescribed for you. Perhaps you will reason! "

In sura 5, verse 32 actually refers to a prescription made to the Hebrews. But what do we learn when we put this verse in its full context, which is no more and no less than Sura 5 in its entirety?
Well, there we learn about the existence of verses adhering to the one exposed above, and we learn about the attitude to adopt in the face of the prescription given to the Hebrews.

Indeed, verse 59 tells us this:
59. Say: “O People of the Book! Do you blame us for anything other than believing in Allah, what has been sent down to us and what has been sent down before? But most of you are perverts.

The question arises: What has Allah sent down before?

It would be good to know how a verse could not find its meaning without placing it in its context which is the entire sura, and well we discover as by magic that verse 44 sheds light on the nature of what has been descended before:

44. We have sent down the Torah in which there is guide and light. It is on this basis that the prophets who have submitted to Allah, as well as the rabbis and doctors judge the affairs of the Jews. For they have been entrusted with the care of the Book of Allah, and they are witnesses of it. So don't fear the people, but fear Me. And don't sell My teachings for a cheap price. And those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down, these are the disbelievers. "
So here the Torah, and other verses complete the nature of what has been descended before, like verse 46 and verse 47:

"46. And We sent after them Jesus, son of Mary, to confirm what was in the Torah before him. And We gave him the Gospel, where there is guide and light, to confirm what was in the Torah before him, and a guide and an exhortation for the pious. "

47. Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has sent down there. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has revealed, these are the perverts. "

Finally, verse 48 seals the outcome of this debate, because it confirms the Qur'an confirms what was sent down before it:

48. And upon you (Muhammad) We sent down the Book with the truth, to confirm the Book which was there before him and to prevail over it. Judge therefore among them according to what Allah has revealed. Do not follow their passions, far from the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have assigned a law and a plan to follow. If Allah had willed, He would certainly have made you all one community. But He wants to test you in what He gives you. so compete in good deeds. All of you return to Allah; then He will let you know what you were deviating from. "

So we see here, that if the Jews had a prescription not to harm the life of an innocent person, this prescription systematically applies to Muslims, as proof, in the same sura, the law of retaliation is stipulated there:

45. And We have prescribed for them life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth. Injuries fall under the law of retaliation. Afterwards, whoever renounces it out of charity, it will earn him an atonement. And those who do not judge according to what Allah has revealed, these are the unrighteous. "

There is talk of a prescription still addressed to the children of Israel, the Qur'an reveals about the law of Talion for Muslims?

“O you who believe! You have been prescribed retaliation on the subject of the slain: free man for free man, slave for slave, woman for woman. »(Sura Al Baqara, verse 178)

So the laws that apply to the Hebrews do apparently apply to Muslims apparently and I believe the true Muslim view above is very much in accord with the biblical view.
Conclusion: The Qur'an is by no means violent just stupid people are !!!!!!

Wahrani

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: June 03, 2021, 02:45:38 PM »
I would like to make my small contribution to this discussion:

According to this concept, Repeals in the Qu’ran (Al-Nasekh and Al-Mansoukh), it is said that some verses of the Qu’ran are repealed and invalidated by other verses! The verse that is abrogating is called Al-Nasekh, while the repealed verse is called Al-Mansoukh.

Although the concept was originally invented by a few scholars as a consequence of their poor understanding of the Qu’ran, it has been widely exploited by enemy Quran writers to tarnish the perfection and divinity of the book.
As stated, the concept of abrogation implies that some Quranic verses have been abrogated by other verses.
On the other hand, writers who are enemies of Islam claim that these verses, and others that they put forward, are in fact contradictions within the Qu’ran.
So, they use these examples to refute the divinity of the Qu’ran.
It should be noted that the examples used by Muslim scholars as "abrogated verses" are not always the verses used by non-Muslim writers; they then speak of "contradictions in the Qur’an ".
Although it can be said that the common point between these two groups is their poor understanding of the Qur'an, it should also be added that in the case of non-Muslim writers, and particularly those who do not speak Arabic, a large number of their assertions in favor of contradictions is only the product of their use of imprecise and misleading translations of the Qur'an.
Both of these claims can be refuted in the light of the Qu’ran. They can be shown to be nothing more than a weak understanding of the Book.

Alif, Lâm, Ra. A Scripture whose signs have been confirmed, and then detailed, from a knowledgeable Sage. Qu’ran, 11: 1

There is for them a good announcement in the life here below as well as in the ultimate life. - There will be no change in the words of Allah -. This is the huge success! Qu’ran, 10:64

These Quranic verses clearly state that God's words are perfect and cannot be abrogated, yet some have fabricated the biggest lie about the Qu’ran, claiming that some verses abrogate others. They base their words on a misinterpretation of this verse:
First verse, 2: 106
If We abrogate (“nansakh”) any Ayah or cause it to be forgotten, We bring a better one, or a similar one. Don't you know that Allah is Omnipotent? Quran, 2: 106

Interpreters claim that this verse confirms that some verses invalidate others.
They interpret the word "ayah" to mean a verse in the Qur'an; and they interpret the word "nansakh" to mean "to abrogate".
But does this word, as used in the Quran, really mean to abrogate?
The word "Ayah", as used in many verses of the Quran, can have four different meanings:

It can mean a miracle from God:
And indeed, We gave Moses nine obvious Ayahs (miracles). (…) Quran, 17: 101
It can also mean an example for people:
And the people of Noah, when they denied the messengers, We drowned them and made an example (Ayah) to the people. (…) Quran, 25:37
The word "Ayah" can also mean sign:
"O my Lord, said (Zechariah), grant me a sign (Ayah)". “Your sign (Ayah), says (Allah,) will be that you will not be able to talk to people for three nights while being well. Quran, 19:10
And finally, it can denote a verse from the Quran:
(Here is) a blessed Book which We have sent down to you, that they may meditate on its verses (Ayat) and those who are gifted with intelligence may reflect! Quran, 38:29
If we now consider verse 106 of sura 2, one can easily verify that the word "Ayah" cannot refer here to a verse from the Quran. It can correspond to other meanings (miracle, example or sign), but not to a Quranic verse.

Here's why :
1) The words "may We make him forget" cannot be applied to a verse from the Quran.
How could a verse from the Quran be forgotten?
Because even if the verse is invalidated by others (as falsely claimed by the interpreters), it will still be part of the Quran and therefore cannot be forgotten.

2) The words "We bring a similar one" would be meaningless if the word "Ayah" meant a Koranic verse, simply because it would be absurd for God to invalidate a verse and replace it with an identical one!
3) If the word “Ayah” in verse 106 means a miracle, example or sign, then all the words in the verse have a perfect meaning. The words "may We make him forget" can be applied to all three meanings, and this is what happens with the passage of time. The miracles of Moses and Jesus have been forgotten. We only believe in them because they are mentioned in the Quran.

Likewise, the words "We bring a better, or the like" accord with the miracles of God.
God replaces a miracle with its like or one that is greater. Consider the following verse:
We actually sent Moses with Our miracles (Ayah), to Pharaoh and his notables. He said, "I am the Messenger of the Lord of the universe." Then when he came to them with Our miracles (Ayah), they laughed. Each miracle (Ayah) We showed them was more convincing than its previous one. And We seized them with the chastisement, perhaps they will return (to Us). Quran, 43: 46-48

The word "nansakh" used in 2: 106 comes from the verb "Nasakha". It is said that this word means to repeal.
But a careful study of all the Quranic verses using this word shows that it actually has the opposite meaning. It means to record or put in writing.
When God means "substitute", the word used is “Baddala”, as in 16: 101.
When We replace ("baddalna") one "Ayat" with another - and God knows better what He sends down - they say, "You made it up." But most of them do not know. Quran, 16:10
The replacement in question here can relate to two things:
a) replacing one scripture with another. This first meaning can be validated by the following verse:
And upon you We sent down the Book with the truth, to confirm the Books which were there before it and to prevail over them. (…) Quran, 5:48

Here, the words "prevail over them" confirm that the previous scriptures are replaced by the Qur'an.
b) Replacing one law in one scripture with another in a subsequent scripture. This second meaning is also proven by the Quran, where various things previously prohibited for the People of the Book were made lawful in the Quran.
As an example, we are told in 2: 187 that sexual relations between married couples during the nights of the month of fasting were permitted, whereas they were previously prohibited.
We are also told in 6: 146 that God forbade the Jews to have all animals with one nail; and that the fat of cattle and sheep was prohibited. This has been made lawful in the Quran.
Verse 16:10 is not about substituting one verse for another
The proof of this lies in the same verse, in the words "they say: You made up this"
Because of their ignorance of the Quran, these forgers clearly violated a fundamental truth in the Quran which states that the words of God cannot be abrogated:

And the word of your Lord is fulfilled in all truth and righteousness. No one can change His words. He is the Audient, the Omniscient. Qur'an, 6:11 a.m.

No change in God's words. This is the immense triumph. Quran, 10:64

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I appreciate the Gospels very much and I have a slight admiration for Paul of Tarsus, who in my eyes this great Paul made such a beautiful mess in the teachings of Jesus, that he won everything because he wrote more of Books of the Bible than any other author, while Jesus did not write a single word, so it makes you wonder why Paul would have been inspired by God?
To consider that Paul of Tarsus, who lived in the first century of the Christian era as an apostle of Jesus, would be like rewriting the History of Jesus' message (not to say Christianity)!

At one point Paul of Tarsus said, "I myself am not under the law," but immediately corrects his statement and basically says, "Well, I am under a law - I am under the law of Christ. (1 Corinthians 9).

He is more than an apostle as far as I am concerned, a true Napoleon of Christianity.
I understand that the earliest writings of the New Testament are actually letters from Paul of Tarsus that were written around AD 50-60, while the Gospels were only written later in the period AD 80-110. . This means that Paul's theories of Tarsus were already before the authors of the Gospels wrote their interpretations of the ministry of Jesus.

Before further discussing the writings of Paul of Tarsus, it is helpful to point out that on the Internet one will find Christian sites which provide very difficult information which will be completely new to the truth-seeking Christian. I assure you that the following details, facts and information regarding the true historical Paul of Tarsus and the problem and split with the Church in Jerusalem are documented well outside the New Testament. The Bible is definitely worth a deep study, but some things that Paul of Tarsus in particular said are clearly wrong (for example, all governments come from God and slaves who obey their masters do God's will!)

It was Paul of Tarsus who launched the belief that Jesus was incarnated and suffered the torture of the cross, so that God would forgive the sin committed by Adam and Eve, a sin which fixed the fate of all Humanity. : the expulsion from Eden, the transmission of this sin to all men, the condition of being mortal, and it is Augustine of Hippo is the inventor of the expression "original sin" and an obsessed with 'a literal reading of the story of the Fall. He organized councils in Carthage, which resulted in the affirmation of the doctrine of original sin. From that moment, the problem is resolved for the Church, but Christian theologians fail to understand, explain and justify an increasingly incomprehensible and even scandalous belief: God, almighty and infinitely good. , mercilessly condemned the whole of humanity.

Some Christian theologians believe that Adam and Eve committed the sin of the flesh yet this extremely suicidal theology completely contradicts the fact that human beings were made in the image of the perfectly good Creator. The doctrine of sin is false and blasphemous, saying that every baby is inherently flawed, that God the Creator does evil in the world, and that God is unjust, rebuking all children for the sins of their parents, well that this is strongly refuted in Ezekiel 18:20, but the church refuses to go back on the dogmas it has proclaimed. These doctrines are therefore repeated in the latest version of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, published by the Vatican in 1997 and above all the Church recognizes, however, the irrational character of its explanations: “The transmission of original sin is a mystery that we cannot fully understand”.

In Jesus' teaching he had no problem offending people by telling a crucial and straightforward truth, but Paul of Tarsus said Christians will have to change their behavior depending on whether or not it offends the other person, and in this way he promoted moral relativism in this way.

It is only useful to see that Paul of Tarsus affirmed in one of his letters (2 Cor 10) that some of his rivals criticized his rhetorical talents, he was undoubtedly endowed with great oratorical talent and a power of persuasion which made him a formidable adversary in religious disputes. In that same letter and in that same chapter, he spoke of demolishing the arguments against his strongholds.

The constant movements of Paul from Tarsus and his references to the cities he had visited and intended to visit, testify to his enormous energy. He was not intimidated by the dangers of transportation in his day and does not seem to have had more hesitation or apprehension about taking an intercontinental trip than a traveller today.


Paul of Tarsus' political gaze kept him safe from the perils of clashing with Roman power as he travelled freely throughout the empire. Eventually he got into trouble with the Roman civil authorities, as he became a threat to them, they grabbed him, interrogated and killed him for his success with the Gentiles. After having spread his message for a quarter of a century and laid a solid foundation for the spread of his faith. Before his imprisonment, Paul of Tarsus succeeded in leading the religion he adopted so that it remained on the right side of power. To accomplish his goal, Paul of Tarsus used all the artifices of politics, without excluding opportunity and duplicity. He said this of himself in his first letter to the Corinthians:

Although I am free and do not belong to any man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to earn as much as possible. For the Jews, I become like a Jew, to win over the Jews. For those who are under the law, I become as one under the law (although I am not under the law), in order to gain those who are under the law. For those who do not have the law, I become like one who does not have the law (although I am not free from the law of God but am under the law of Christ), in order to win those who do not have the law. For the weak, I become weak, to win over the weak. I have become everything to all men (1 Cor 9: 19-22).

This is why I believe that this great Paul of Tarsus is the Napoleon of Christianity!!!!
According to some Christian sources, Paul of Tarsus the theologian is a less coherent and less convincing thinker than is generally believed and he had confused circumcision with the observance of other laws of the Torah, as Paul of Tarsus expressed the whole range of ideas about the value of circumcision, with indifference in 1 Cor 7:19:20

Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is everything. May everyone remain as they were when called?

Circumcision has no value in Gal 5: 6 6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision is of any use, nor uncircumcision; but the faith which acts out of love.
Affirm that circumcision has value in Rom 3: 1-2 1
So what advantage does the Jew have? Or what profit is there from circumcision? 2 In any case, mainly because it was to them that the oracles of God were committed.

In his relationship with the apostles, Paul of Tarsus finds himself in a rather difficult situation. The facts of the story of his rejection in his outburst of love for the daughter of the High Priest, showed that Paul of Tarsus as a Pharisee rejected. Moreover, Paul of Tarsus had wanted the independence of the Church in Jerusalem, but above all needed their recognition and their authority for his missions. In Galatians 1:18 he states: "Then, after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter and I stayed with him for 15 days". Verse 19 states: "But the other apostles saw no one except James the brother of the Lord".

There is no doubt that the fortnight with Peter was largely devoted to imparting more information about the context of Jesus' ministry on earth as well as the very beginnings of the new movement.

In Galatians 2: 1-2 he states: "Then after fourteen years I returned to Jerusalem .... I presented them the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but in private before those who are famous, lest I was not in vain ".

This is because Paul of Tarsus submits his gospel to the apostles in Jerusalem for their approval.
Paul would later say: "They added nothing, no other content, no request, instruction or requirement to the gospel without circumcision ... except the encouragement to remember the importance of almsgiving (Gal. 2: 10) ".

In the end it would seem that it is precisely these problems that would ultimately separate Paul of Tarsus from the Church in Jerusalem in the last years of his life. The Paul of Tarsus case is quite a disturbing enigma for the church, indeed, he was considered the true founder of Christianity, deviating from the Jewish ideological foundations of his time and dissenting from his people, it seems. It is opportune to question the Pauline motives which may have posed a problem for the Apostles of his time and who did not see in Paul of Tarsus a subversive element without questioning the foundations of Christianity.

At the risk of deceiving me!

NB/Original article in French, Google translation

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Rebuttals & Polemics / L’Arabe, une langue magnifique !!!
« on: January 26, 2021, 12:52:49 PM »
 Il est assez important de rappeler certaines vérités sur la langue arabe et son enseignement reste un vecteur de richesse culturelle et comme autre langue, elle est d’abord un véhicule de culture et de beauté, bien au-delà d’une communauté, d’une religion. D’ailleurs, les églises chrétiennes d’Orient au Proche et Moyen-Orient prêchent  leur Messe en langue Arabe.

Cependant il est intéressant de savoir que les non Arabes ont fortement contribué au rayonnement de cette langue. En effet, les chrétiens Arabes ou arabophones ont traduit en Arabe les grands textes grecs de la philosophie et des sciences, langue par laquelle ces savoirs nous sont parvenus. Quant au premier livre imprimé en arabe, c’était une bible ! Aussi, des juifs arabophones en Andalousie en Espagne ont contribué au développement de la langue arabe, comme ce fut le cas pour le philosophe et juriste andalou Moïse Maïmonide de Cordoue, qui a écrit son œuvre en Arabe.

Ainsi sans me déclarer un linguiste avéré, tout en empruntant à un site partenaire, je dirai que la Langue Arabe est une langue très riche; les Arabes se vantent, selon Ernest Renan, d’avoir :
80 mots pour désigner le miel,  200 pour le serpent, 500 pour le lion,  1000 pour le chameau et l’épée et également presque 4400 mot pour rendre l’idée de malheur.
Le vocabulaire comprend 60 000 mots. Les grammairiens Arabes déclarent que toutes les racines de la langue ont été primitivement des verbes, et ils élèvent considérablement le nombre de ces racines. Il est en réalité de 6000.
Certains linguistes s’accordent à dire que ces noms sont absolument identiques, mais l’opinion la plus solide est celle qui soutient qu’il existe des nuances d’un mot à un autre et que deux termes ne désignent pas exactement la même chose.

Ainsi, la clarté, l’amplitude de la langue arabe ne peut être comparée avec une autre langue. Et celui qui dirait qu’une langue est plus vaste et plus riche que la langue arabe se sera trompée et l’imam Souyyouti a dit : « cela est clair car nous les arabes, lorsque nous voulons parler d’une épée, nous avons énormément de termes qui nous permettent de l’exprimer. Chacun de ses termes aura une signification particulière qui parlera d’un aspect particulier de cette épée, il en est de même pour le lion, le cheval, et énormément d’autres choses ».

Voici quelques exemples autour de la notion de vide et des différents termes utilisés en arabe pour l’exprimer :

- Une table sans repas est appelée «khiwaan». Lorsqu’elle est servie, on utilise le terme  «Maa’idah» .
- Un verre vide est  «koob» ou «qadah». Lorsqu’il contient un liquide, il devient « ka’s ».
- Pour désigner le fait de manger tout ce qui se trouve sur une table, lors du dîner, on utilise le verbe «iqtamma»

Il y a dans la langue arabe, toute une catégorie de mots qui signifient une chose ainsi que son contraire. Il y a par exemple ce qui à nos yeux s’apparentent à des contradictions le mot "Saleem", signifie celui qui est guéri, et celui qui vient d’être mordu par un serpent,
Le mot "Baseer", désigne une personne avec une vue perspicace, mais aussi un aveugle.
Le mot "Umma" qui est généralement traduit en nation, ainsi que l’entité qui suit et est guidée.

Je noterai également ces belles anecdotes : "On raconte que le grand poète et linguiste aveugle du XIe siècle, Abul-Ala Al-Maary a heurté au Souk un prince à la cour de Ibn Saleh Mirdas, le souverain du nord de la Syrie.
Le prince a perdu son calme, en voyant que le poète était pauvre, et les poètes pauvres, ne sont pas censés se frotter à la riche noblesse! Ce prince traita alors le poète de "chien ignorant". Abul-Ala répliqua aussitôt : "le chien parmi nous est celui qui ne connait pas les soixante-dix noms pour désigner le chien !"

Ces soixante-dix noms n’étaient pas tout à fait synonymes, car ils ne signifient pas tout à fait : «chien», plutôt, ils décrivent les conditions d’un chien, un chien enragé avait un nom différent d’un joyeux, le chien qui avait une oreille vers le haut et l’autre vers le bas a un nom différent de celui qui avait les deux oreilles, ou les deux oreilles vers le bas. Ce qui est vrai du chien est vrai de la plupart des autres créatures.

L’amour quant à lui possède plusieurs noms différents, dont chacun a une légère différence, mais critique de l’autre. "Hawa", est le goût léger, il comporte également un élément d’erreur, d’irrationalité, le vieux proverbe préislamique va : "Hawa fait perdre la raison".
Il y a le nom "ishq", qui vient de l’intrication de deux amoureux inséparables mais toujours indépendants et distincts, et encore le nom "Hayam" et "Fitna", ce qui signifie l’amour, l’engouement, le désir passionné, mais aussi guerre civile et illusion. Il y a le nom «Sakan «     pour décrire la relation entre les couples mariés. Le stade suprême de l’amour est, paradoxalement, "fanaa", ce qui signifie la non-existence. C’est le stade où les amoureux perdent leurs existences indépendantes et effectivement devenu l’un à l’autre.

La science du Tafsir (l’exégèse) du Coran est une discipline des sciences islamiques qui vise l'explication des termes du Coran et ce que l'on en tire d'enseignement1.
La discipline, ainsi définie, s'est dotée pour atteindre son objet, de connaissances et d'une méthodologie d’exégèse et d'interprétation du texte Coranique  pour en approfondir la compréhension c’est-à-dire qu’elle cherche à en saisir le sens immédiat des mots. 

Le terme «Tafsir» signifie «clarifier ce qui est obscur». C'est aussi, au passage, ce qui ressort du sens d'explication qui nécessite une interprétation pour en saisir le sens qui a un impact considérable sur la pensée religieuse musulmane. 

Quant à la culture arabe, elle a puisé l’essentiel de sa source dans le texte sacré de l’Islam lui permettant ainsi de mettre sur pied une approche et une pensée originales, comme l’a bien souligné Mohamed Arkoun "La pensée arabe a eu, avec le Coran, un départ fulgurant. Le Livre a ouvert des horizons si vastes, introduit des thèmes si denses, utilisé des moyens d’expression si exceptionnels qu’aujourd’hui encore il offre aux penseurs et aux chercheurs scientifiques d’inépuisables sujets à exploiter".
En final je voudrais partager des citations de personnalités qui furent fascinées par la langue arabe, bien que ces citations ne reflètent en fait que leur avis personnels. Parmi ces occidentaux, on trouve des penseurs, écrivains et orientalistes qui ont étudié la langue arabe et qui l'ont bien maîtrisée. D'autres, sont tombés sous le charme de cette belle langue.
" La langue arabe est parmi les langues du monde les plus riches" L’allemand Freitag
" L'imposant et l’éternel patrimoine arabe a prouvé qu’il est plus fort que toute tentative qui visait à repousser l’arabe littéraire de sa position dominante " L’allemand Johann [censored]
L’arabe à atteint, grâce au Coran, une extension qu’aucune autre langue, parmi les langues du monde, n’a jamais connue " L’orientaliste allemand Karl Breukelman
" La chose la plus étrange qui est arrivée dans l'histoire humaine concerne la diffusion de la langue arabe. En effet, la langue arabe était inconnue, et soudainement, elle a connu une expansion pleine et complète.Cette langue n’a ni enfance, ni vieillesse. Elle a dépassé ses sœurs par la richesse de son vocabulaire, par la précision de ses termes et par la justesse de son système de construction et sa structuration". L'orientaliste français Ernest RENAN
" L’arabe est une langue extrêmement riche. J’ai appris à lire l’arabe à un certain moment, sans le comprendre. Ce qui est intéressant avec cette langue, par rapport à une autre, et moi je suis passionné par ça, c’est que lorsque vous apprenez l’arabe, vous connaissez la mentalité des gens. Mais si vous apprenez le français, vous ne connaissez pas la mentalité des francophones. C’est la construction, la création de cette langue qui est extraordinairement riche. Il y a des gens érudits qui, avec une seule lettre, ont écrit des bouquins entiers. C’est une langue qui, moi, me passionne." Le Prince Laurent de Belgique
Comment l’Homme peut-il résister à la beauté de cette langue, à sa logique et à son éblouissement unique? Même les voisins des Arabes, eux-mêmes, dans les pays qu’ils ont conquis, sont tombés sous le charme de cette langue. Sigrid Hunke (historienne des religions et écrivain allemande, 1913-1999.

L’une des caractéristiques les plus importante de l’arabe, est sa capacité à exprimer des significations secondaires que les peuples occidentaux sont incapables d’exprimer.
Régis Blachère (orientaliste, islamologue et arabisant français, 1900-1973).

En final, il est plus naturellement de déclarer que la langue Arabe compte des particularités et des caractéristiques tant dans l'écrit que l'oral l'autorisant amplement à être une langue de sciences.
Sans chauvinisme linguiste, je termine en disant que chaque langue à son charme et il ne faut pas les mélanger les unes aux autres. De plus il ne s’agit pas d’être xénophobe mais d’être fier de sa langue et de ses origines c’est ce qui fait la différence entre les uns et les autres et qui fait la beauté du vivre ensemble dans un respect mutuel.
 
A tous les Arabes ! Votre langue est magnifique !!!!!






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Cette question est intéressante à condition de n’oublier dans le bilan, ni l’actif, ni le passif du terme Islamisme, qui reste à mon sens un cas d’école à connaitre absolument nous sommes à tort habitué à certains termes, qui prêtent à confusion, l’amalgame et la polémique.

Ainsi historiquement, le terme islamisme désignait l'islam, de nos jours il n'est plus utilisé dans ce sens mais se référant à des groupes qui se démarquent très souvent des enseignements traditionnels par l’exploitation interprétative politique d’un texte sacré, des hérétiques ou hétérodoxes sont nommés ainsi tel car ils se démarquent des enseignements de l’Islam. Ainsi il est à constater que bien que présent dans les religions monothéistes, ce terme est souvent utilisé en référence à l’islam, au même titre utilisé pour désigner des mouvements des Frères Musulmans, du FIS, des Partis Politique Algériens à tendance Islamisme comme on dit trop souvent, ou encore  du Hezbollah et le Hamas, des salafismes quiétistes comme des groupes qui prônent la violence dont le seul point commun est de se réclamer d’une interprétation fondamentaliste de l’Islam et d’en faire le guide de leur action politique.

On n’a vue que de pareil mouvements à la fois religieux et politique qui incitent à l'expansion de l'islam ainsi que l'application stricte de la loi islamique, la charia, considérée comme l'unique source du droit, dans tous les domaines de la vie publique et privée pour mettre à jour à la fois idéologie et politique radical et  surtout par jeu de dupes comme une formule fourre-tout englobant toute configuration d'idéologie extrémiste supposée issue de l'islam, l’islamisme peut faire appel à la violence pour parvenir à ses fins et prendre des formes extrémistes, voire criminelles.

Sincèrement je suis musulman : ma perception de l’islam n’est pas la même  de celles de ces groupuscules. Ceci dit, l’islam s’inscrit pour les musulmans dans la continuité  du monothéiste le plus pur, et je ne dirai jamais assez que l’Islam ne se présente juste pas comme une religion Bis, mais bien plutôt comme un Rappel, c’est d’ailleurs le sens du mot Qur’an : Rappel au lien élémentaire qui lie l’être humain à Dieu. Je crois qu’il faut connaître l’islam de l’intérieur pour comprendre son aspect universel. Quand au Musulman, il l’est que selon le regard de l’autrui. L’islam n’est ni le christianisme et encore moins un reflet de la pensée grecque ou romaine mais je considère que l’Occident est d’une pauvreté conceptuelle attristante, juste une  caricature des principaux courants universelles relevant principalement de la pensée Islamique.

Les maîtres du financement de l’Islamisme et son expansion, se trouvent dans les pays de Golf, des monarchies tribales absolutistes et despotiques où l’islam est instrumentalisé pour justifier l’oppression de la société civile, la censure de la liberté d’expression et de toute forme de militantisme politique.

Allah voulait que I’islam soit une religion générale et  universelle, mais les hommes ont voulu en faire une politique. La politique est partielle, tribale, limitée dans l'espace et dans le temps. Limiter la religion à la politique, c'est la cantonner à un domaine étroit, à une collectivité, une région et un moment déterminer.
La religion tend à élever l'homme vers ce qu'il peut donner de meilleur. La politique tend à éveiller en lui les instincts les plus vils. Faire de la politique au nom de la religion, c'est transformer cette dernière en guerres interminables, en divisions partisanes sans fin et cette  une religion qui a été tellement assimilé à un peuple, une race, une culture autant par les xénophobes que les xénophiles qu’ils ont été encouragé officiellement à travers des institutions publiques et républicaines.

Aujourd’hui chez la presse occidentale, le terme islamisme est surtout assimilé, de façon explicite et trop discriminante, à l’image de l’Islam violent et du mauvais musulman. Il se voit confondre intégralement avec l’islam, surtout en France où l’expression publique et politique d’une religion entraîne immédiatement la suspicion et l’amalgame. Chez cette même presse  l’islam est la seule religion dont la forme intégriste est désignée par un dérivé de son nom islamisme, comme si la violence lui était essentielle, pourtant on parle moins de chrétiens intégristes, de juifs extrémistes et sans jamais utilisé les termes christianistes  ou  judéistes ou mieux encore, il n’est pas dit du Judaïsme politique lorsque il est question de la création d’un état juif en Palestine.

De plus, dans les discours médiatiques les bons musulmans sont perçus comme conciliant les mêmes principes et valeurs des catho-laïcité, ainsi à cette population, il est impose  l’obligation de respect des valeurs problématiques (Mariage pour tous). L’appartenance à la catégorie des bons musulmans est alors conditionnelle au partage de ces principes surtout ils doivent notamment être laïques et féministes. L’opposition au voile ainsi qu’à l’intégrisme islamique prouverait qu’ils sont de bons musulmans.

Plus précisément, pour être de bons musulmans, aux yeux de la presse Française, les musulmans de France doivent, d’une certaine façon, rejeter certains comportements et pratiques associés à l’islam, et pour installer un climat de suspicion envers les citoyens musulmans. Ils sont dès lors placés dans une dynamique où leurs comportements doivent être jugés par les médias et le reste de la société.  Ces mêmes médias omettent et se dispensent de réfléchir sur l’opposition entre le bon et le mauvais musulman participe à réduire leurs libertés et justifie leurs discriminations que les discours médiatiques instrumentalisent alors l’exclusion sociale. Mais cette dernière option sera privilégiée par la partie dominante qui donne le ton dans les milieux élitistes.
 
En adoptant un discours du machiavélisme, la société laïc et chrétienne de France propose une conception voire une relecture de l’islam avec refondation de la théologie musulmane, pour que des musulmans puissent correspondre aux valeurs républicaines. Il faut noter que, les valeurs musulmanes sont jugées comme étant incompatibles à celles des sociétés occidentales.

La déformation par les médias du regard porté sur l’islam s’éternise, donc pour conclure sur le terme islamisme, je dirai qu’il existe deux types d’islamisme, celui qui revendique la défense d’intérêts patriotique (Hezbollah et le Hamas) et celui constitué de petits groupes de type Rachad qui cherchent à défendre des intérêts politiques confus et flous au nom de l’Islam.

Ces groupes politiques associés à l’islam sont instrumentalisées afin de corroborer et d’appuyer l’argumentaire proposé par les médias. L’instrumentalisation de ces groupes se manifeste  dans les affirmations de certains individus se réclamant de l’islam et qui tiennent des propos controversés, et ce, sans éclairer sur le contexte social ou historique où ont prévalu ces propos.

En final l’islamiste reste donc un adepte à l'utilisation politique de l'islam pour une large contestation perçue comme portant atteinte à son identité à la fois nationale et religieuse.
En conclusion,il a été démontré bien souvent que l’islam n’est donc pas une croyance essentiellement violente, mais une religion de préférence pacifique, humaniste et universalle, qui s’inscrit dans le rappel des précédentes religions plutôt qu’en rupture avec la civilisation judéo-chrétienne. Si l’expansion de l’islam s’est diffusée parfois de manière violente au cours de son histoire, cette violence ne lui est pas spécifique, mais semblable à celle qu’a connu le judaïsme dans sa conquête de la terre de Canaan ainsi que le christianisme, par exemple lors des Croisades médiévales.

L’islamisme illustre quant à lui, un islam présupposé politique qui revêt des aspects réformistes ou réactionnaires, surtout il n’est pas un excès de l’Islam, c’est un dévoiement de l’Islam purement fanatique et irrationnelle.
C’est donc autre chose !!!!!!

Avec mes Amitiés
Wahrani


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 Cette question est intéressante à condition de n’oublier dans le bilan, ni l’actif, ni le passif du terme Islamisme, qui reste à mon sens un cas d’école à connaitre absolument nous sommes à tort habitué à certains termes, qui prêtent à confusion, l’amalgame et la polémique.

Ainsi historiquement, le terme islamisme désignait l'islam, de nos jours il n'est plus utilisé dans ce sens mais se référant à des groupes qui se démarquent très souvent des enseignements traditionnels par l’exploitation interprétative politique d’un texte sacré, des hérétiques ou hétérodoxes sont nommés ainsi tel car ils se démarquent des enseignements de l’Islam. Ainsi il est à constater que bien que présent dans les religions monothéistes, ce terme est souvent utilisé en référence à l’islam, au même titre utilisé pour désigner des mouvements des Frères Musulmans, du FIS, des Partis Politique Algériens à tendance Islamisme comme on dit trop souvent, ou encore  du Hezbollah et le Hamas, des salafismes quiétistes comme des groupes qui prônent la violence dont le seul point commun est de se réclamer d’une interprétation fondamentaliste de l’Islam et d’en faire le guide de leur action politique.

On n’a vue que de pareil mouvements à la fois religieux et politique qui incitent à l'expansion de l'islam ainsi que l'application stricte de la loi islamique, la charia, considérée comme l'unique source du droit, dans tous les domaines de la vie publique et privée pour mettre à jour à la fois idéologie et politique radical et  surtout par jeu de dupes comme une formule fourre-tout englobant toute configuration d'idéologie extrémiste supposée issue de l'islam, l’islamisme peut faire appel à la violence pour parvenir à ses fins et prendre des formes extrémistes, voire criminelles.

Sincèrement je suis musulman : ma perception de l’islam n’est pas la même  de celles de ces groupuscules. Ceci dit, l’islam s’inscrit pour les musulmans dans la continuité  du monothéiste le plus pur, et je ne dirai jamais assez que l’Islam ne se présente juste pas comme une religion Bis, mais bien plutôt comme un Rappel, c’est d’ailleurs le sens du mot Qur’an : Rappel au lien élémentaire qui lie l’être humain à Dieu. Je crois qu’il faut connaître l’islam de l’intérieur pour comprendre son aspect universel. Quand au Musulman, il l’est que selon le regard de l’autrui. L’islam n’est ni le christianisme et encore moins un reflet de la pensée grecque ou romaine mais je considère que l’Occident est d’une pauvreté conceptuelle attristante, juste une  caricature des principaux courants universelles relevant principalement de la pensée Islamique.

Les maîtres du financement de l’Islamisme et son expansion, se trouvent dans les pays de Golf, des monarchies tribales absolutistes et despotiques où l’islam est instrumentalisé pour justifier l’oppression de la société civile, la censure de la liberté d’expression et de toute forme de militantisme politique.

Allah voulait que I’islam soit une religion générale et  universelle, mais les hommes ont voulu en faire une politique. La politique est partielle, tribale, limitée dans l'espace et dans le temps. Limiter la religion à la politique, c'est la cantonner à un domaine étroit, à une collectivité, une région et un moment déterminer.
La religion tend à élever l'homme vers ce qu'il peut donner de meilleur. La politique tend à éveiller en lui les instincts les plus vils. Faire de la politique au nom de la religion, c'est transformer cette dernière en guerres interminables, en divisions partisanes sans fin et cette  une religion qui a été tellement assimilé à un peuple, une race, une culture autant par les xénophobes que les xénophiles qu’ils ont été encouragé officiellement à travers des institutions publiques et républicaines.

Aujourd’hui chez la presse occidentale, le terme islamisme est surtout assimilé, de façon explicite et trop discriminante, à l’image de l’Islam violent et du mauvais musulman. Il se voit confondre intégralement avec l’islam, surtout en France où l’expression publique et politique d’une religion entraîne immédiatement la suspicion et l’amalgame. Chez cette même presse  l’islam est la seule religion dont la forme intégriste est désignée par un dérivé de son nom islamisme, comme si la violence lui était essentielle, pourtant on parle moins de chrétiens intégristes, de juifs extrémistes et sans jamais utilisé les termes christianistes  ou  judéistes ou mieux encore, il n’est pas dit du Judaïsme politique lorsque il est question de la création d’un état juif en Palestine.

De plus, dans les discours médiatiques les bons musulmans sont perçus comme conciliant les mêmes principes et valeurs des catho-laïcité, ainsi à cette population, il est impose  l’obligation de respect des valeurs problématiques (Mariage pour tous). L’appartenance à la catégorie des bons musulmans est alors conditionnelle au partage de ces principes surtout ils doivent notamment être laïques et féministes. L’opposition au voile ainsi qu’à l’intégrisme islamique prouverait qu’ils sont de bons musulmans.

Plus précisément, pour être de bons musulmans, aux yeux de la presse Française, les musulmans de France doivent, d’une certaine façon, rejeter certains comportements et pratiques associés à l’islam, et pour installer un climat de suspicion envers les citoyens musulmans. Ils sont dès lors placés dans une dynamique où leurs comportements doivent être jugés par les médias et le reste de la société.  Ces mêmes médias omettent et se dispensent de réfléchir sur l’opposition entre le bon et le mauvais musulman participe à réduire leurs libertés et justifie leurs discriminations que les discours médiatiques instrumentalisent alors l’exclusion sociale. Mais cette dernière option sera privilégiée par la partie dominante qui donne le ton dans les milieux élitistes.
 
En adoptant un discours du machiavélisme, la société laïc et chrétienne de France propose une conception voire une relecture de l’islam avec refondation de la théologie musulmane, pour que des musulmans puissent correspondre aux valeurs républicaines. Il faut noter que, les valeurs musulmanes sont jugées comme étant incompatibles à celles des sociétés occidentales.

La déformation par les médias du regard porté sur l’islam s’éternise, donc pour conclure sur le terme islamisme, je dirai qu’il existe deux types d’islamisme, celui qui revendique la défense d’intérêts patriotique (Hezbollah et le Hamas) et celui constitué de petits groupes de type Rachad qui cherchent à défendre des intérêts politiques confus et flous au nom de l’Islam.

Ces groupes politiques associés à l’islam sont instrumentalisées afin de corroborer et d’appuyer l’argumentaire proposé par les médias. L’instrumentalisation de ces groupes se manifeste  dans les affirmations de certains individus se réclamant de l’islam et qui tiennent des propos controversés, et ce, sans éclairer sur le contexte social ou historique où ont prévalu ces propos.

En final l’islamiste reste donc un adepte à l'utilisation politique de l'islam pour une large contestation perçue comme portant atteinte à son identité à la fois nationale et religieuse.
En conclusion,il a été démontré bien souvent que l’islam n’est donc pas une croyance essentiellement violente, mais une religion de préférence pacifique, humaniste et universalle, qui s’inscrit dans le rappel des précédentes religions plutôt qu’en rupture avec la civilisation judéo-chrétienne. Si l’expansion de l’islam s’est diffusée parfois de manière violente au cours de son histoire, cette violence ne lui est pas spécifique, mais semblable à celle qu’a connu le judaïsme dans sa conquête de la terre de Canaan ainsi que le christianisme, par exemple lors des Croisades médiévales.

L’islamisme illustre quant à lui, un islam présupposé politique qui revêt des aspects réformistes ou réactionnaires, surtout il n’est pas un excès de l’Islam, c’est un dévoiement de l’Islam purement fanatique et irrationnelle.
C’est donc autre chose !!!!!!

Avec mes Amitiés
Wahrani


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Je tiens surtout à vous préciser qu’en Islam, la théologie a été appelée  « science de la parole » ('ilm al-kalām) qui soumis à l’idée, qu’il existe un chemin de foi et qui rend compte de ses croissances à être, dans tous les temps.. Ainsi je peux avancer que la théologie islamique enseigne que Dieu existe et qu’Il est unique.

Le Qur’an ne révèle aucun mystère, à la différence de la Révélation chrétienne (telle que la filiation divine du Christ, la Trinité et la Rédemption), ce qui est révélé, c’est le statut de l’être humain et des créatures, et la relation de l’être humain à son Créateur, une relation de dépendance. Cette dépendance est telle qu’on ne peut être sauvé que si on agit conformément au projet divin.

Dans la théologie chrétienne la liberté excessive prônée, aurait déjà ses racines chez Paul. Car c’est lui qui aurait aboli la Loi divine elle-même en voulant se demarquer de la Loi de Moïse en disant que désormais, dans le Christ, les chrétiens ne sont plus soumis à la Loi, ni serviteurs, ni esclaves (abd) de Dieu, il aurait amputé le christianisme de ce qui fait l’essence même d’une religion c'est-à-dire  la soumission à la Loi de Dieu.

Par la Filiation  et l’Incarnation, le christianisme a fini par faire de l’homme un dieu?

Ce que la théologie musulmane, soucieuse de respecter le statut de dépendance essentielle de l’homme par rapport à Dieu, ne peut d’aucune manière entrevoir.

C’est dans ce sens que le Qur’an  fait un lien entre la foi au Dieu unique, le monothéisme, la foi au Dernier jour du Jugement et d’agir avec droiture. Ainsi il est écrit

«En vérité, ceux qui croient et ceux qui sont Juifs et Chrétiens, et Sabiens (Sabi'in), quiconque croit en Allah et au Dernier Jour et accomplit les bonnes actions justes recevront leur récompense auprès de leur Seigneur, sans craint et ils ne pleureront pas non plus» Qur’an 2, 62

Or ceci nous renvoie vers la citation d’un grand penseur musulman et juriste Ibn Taymiyya (m. 1328) pour montrer comment au Moyen-Âge déjà, les musulmans critiquent la séparation du politique et du religieux dans le christianisme?:

« Il lui manque le pouvoir, et il n’a pas les moyens d’ordonner ce qui est convenable et d’interdire ce qui est blâmable »

Pour Ibn Taymiyya, c’est précisément la grandeur de l’islam d’être une synthèse des deux Lois de la justice et de la grâce?

Courants Mu‘tazilites et  Ash‘arites :

Les Mu‘tazilites ont constitué le plus ancien courant de la théologie islamique (théologie appelée ‘ilm al kalām), laquelle fut incontestablement un des courants le plus influent de la pensée en islam.

Le mu‘tazilisme comme théologie s'est développé parmi des croyants qui avaient une confiance absolue dans les promesses et les menaces que Dieu a annoncées dans le Qur’an. À l'unité de Dieu, à l'unité de la Loi révélée, doit correspondre l'unité d'une communauté (umma) entièrement soumise à Dieu.

Cette communauté est la meilleure qui ait surgi ; elle commande le bien et interdit le mal c'est :

Le amr bi‘l-ma‘rūf wa'l-nahy ‘an al-munkar ;  (Qur’an 3.104 et 110).

Il y a un rapport étroit entre l'unité de la communauté musulmane et le culte d'adoration du Seigneur. Les mu‘tazilites s'inspirent donc étroitement du Qur’an,

Les Mu‘tazilites, professant la primauté de la raison humaine et du libre arbitre (opposé à la prédestination), développèrent une pensée et une psychologie qui constituèrent les bases de leurs spéculations sur la nature de l’univers, de Dieu, de l’homme et du phénomène religieux en tant que Révélation et Loi divines. Dans leur doctrine éthique, les Mu‘tazilites soutenaient que le Bien et le Mal ne peuvent être appréhendés qu’à travers l’exercice de la raison humaine. Grâce à leur pensée spécifique, ils purent élaborer une méthodologie juridique d’une très haute complexité.

Les Ash`arites sont les Imams de la guidance parmi les savants musulmans, C’est à leur sujet que le penseur de l’Islam Ibn Taymiyyah avait dit : « Les savants sont les défenseurs des sciences de la religion et les Ash`arites sont les défenseurs des fondements de la religion »

L'ash‘arisme est l'école dont l'influence fut prépondérante pendant des siècles (Xe-XIXe s.) en ‘ilm al-kalām, c'est-à-dire dans la théologie, Elle entendit défendre contre les mu‘tazilites l'absolue toute-puissance de Dieu, la réalité des attributs divins et le Qur’an incréé. Les thèses soutenues varient quelque peu ainsi au sujet de la définition de la foi. Cette école affirme que Dieu est créateur du mal comme du bien, qu'Il crée les actes de l'homme, bons ou mauvais.

Chez eux, la révélation prime sur la raison rejetant le rationalisme mu‘tazilite. En final je dirai qu’il n’y pas de grandes différences entre les deux courants, excepté quelques désaccords mineurs, comme par exemple la définition des notions de la croyance (al-îmân) et de la soumission (al-islâm), ou la question du Destin et d’autres questions qui sont habituellement admises au sein d’une même école, et qui n’implique aucune divergence de fond. Les deux courants firent du Qur’an la source par excellence pour la vraie connaissance de leurs croyances. Ils s’appliquèrent à saisir les sens des versets coraniques ; quant aux questions ambiguës, ils se basèrent dans leur compréhension sur les procédés linguistiques. Aucun des deux n’a inventé une nouvelle croyance, ni une nouvelle école religieuse.

En conclusion, mon commentaire sur les factions ou les courants de l’Islam se résume uniquement à un compte rendu historique qui, dans ce cas, se limite seulement à l’analyse du fondement des groupuscules, comme cela se fait pour les événements historiques.

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Apostasy, from the Greek apostasia, defection, designates the voluntary and public abandonment of a religion and is used as much for the various Christian denominations as for Judaism and Islam. For Judaism, apostasy today exists with a very particular connotation: tribal Judaism is not you leave it because apostasy is experienced as a betrayal towards the people, no doubt more than towards god him - even, the apostasy of a Jew constitutes a drama for an elected people.

In Catholic theology and canon law prior to the 1983 Code, apostasy was punished: Christian Europe in the Middle Ages quartered and burned its apostates. Today, the Church recognizes that who knowingly leaves religion freedom of conscience, but, de facto excluding himself from the ecclesial community in which he was baptized, the apostate no longer benefits from the sacraments of Church, funeral or sponsorship mission. The sanction of apostasy is therefore today excommunication (solemn exclusion from the Church).

For Islam, apostasy exists. It is characterized by the abandonment of belief in God, but it does not imply a questioning of the attachment to Muslim identity or culture, since they always remain ex: Muslims, all the more that Islam has no institution for controlling the religious beliefs of its followers. Apostasy is a gradual evil. It is first of all the abandonment of a received truth.

The ex-Muslims form a homogeneous group with all the same ideas to make their apostasy, a working tool which they exhibit on stage without any lucidity, nor deep reflection but pour into victimization !!!!

Apostasy most often arouses habits or attitudes due to sin or error. It infects not only thought, but all of life, to the point that salvation can only be spoken of with extreme caution.

However, some of the Christian critics consider the new ex: Muslims converted with suspicion, accusing them of seeking personal gain such as financial aid from Christian organizations working for charities.
Ah! Because it was better lived in apostasy !!

The questions of criticism of Islam and the freedom to detach from it are central to our Islamic visions, however the critical theory of ex: Muslims sees reality through the lens of the Church, one gets the impression, once again, that the criticism of Islam can only be a criticism necessarily collected by the church which instrumentalizes converts to lead an irresponsible campaign to denigrate Islam.

Christians could have stopped there. But they always have fun telling us stories of a number of ex-Muslims and their renunciation of Islam, as if to believe the stupidities of these misguided, but the fact that these ex-Muslims represent for Islam?

The reasons evoked by these ex Muslims, seems at first dictated by the religious of the church, namely:
Be convinced that Islam is not a true religion!!!!
Affirm loud and clear the supposed violence of the Koran!!!!!
Affirm loud and clear a persecution with a death threat!!!!
Affirm that you have met Jesus Christ to finally find eternal rest!!!
Claim to be saved by Jesus!!!!

The church which knew how to adapt its discourse and no longer attacks Muslims head on, but attacks Islam to claim and manage these intoxicants and theories which come to flatter the ex: Muslims, exacerbating the clichés in an excess of religiosity and societal testimonies.

Because imbecility becomes the majority that turns it into intelligence, because to reject your religion is to abandon part of yourself.

It proves what the case of these ex; Muslims?
Is there a contest somewhere?

Above all, it should be noted that it is enough to measure the quality of those who leave Islam without ever being true Muslims, and of those who return to Islam after a mature conviction supported by studies first, to note that the difference is significant.

So we call these cases of ex: Muslim become Christian after having met Jesus in a dream, or having received the Call of Christ (What all claim) after having lived many persecutions. Also after his conversion and his faith in Jesus Christ, he is saved!
In addition, Christians in their churches tend to mistrust these ex-Muslims, and more often than not they say to themselves;
Aren't they Christians like us?
I have never seen so many untruths in the altitude of ex: Muslims to put these shots end to end can only demonstrate a bad Islam when Islam is really something else: Happiness.

Someone said "if I'm right, let me be granted if I'm wrong, let me be proven;"

 
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Apostasy, from the Greek apostasia, defection, designates the voluntary and public abandonment of a religion and is used as much for the various Christian denominations as for Judaism and Islam. For Judaism, apostasy today exists with a very particular connotation: tribal Judaism is not you leave it because apostasy is experienced as a betrayal towards the people, no doubt more than towards god him - even, the apostasy of a Jew constitutes a drama for an elected people.

In Catholic theology and canon law prior to the 1983 Code, apostasy was punished: Christian Europe in the Middle Ages quartered and burned its apostates. Today, the Church recognizes that who knowingly leaves religion freedom of conscience, but, de facto excluding himself from the ecclesial community in which he was baptized, the apostate no longer benefits from the sacraments of Church, funeral or sponsorship mission. The sanction of apostasy is therefore today excommunication (solemn exclusion from the Church).

For Islam, apostasy exists. It is characterized by the abandonment of belief in God, but it does not imply a questioning of the attachment to Muslim identity or culture, since they always remain ex: Muslims, all the more that Islam has no institution for controlling the religious beliefs of its followers. Apostasy is a gradual evil. It is first of all the abandonment of a received truth.

The ex-Muslims form a homogeneous group with all the same ideas to make their apostasy, a working tool which they exhibit on stage without any lucidity, nor deep reflection but pour into victimization !!!!

Apostasy most often arouses habits or attitudes due to sin or error. It infects not only thought, but all of life, to the point that salvation can only be spoken of with extreme caution.

However, some of the Christian critics consider the new ex: Muslims converted with suspicion, accusing them of seeking personal gain such as financial aid from Christian organizations working for charities.
Ah! Because it was better lived in apostasy !!

The questions of criticism of Islam and the freedom to detach from it are central to our Islamic visions, however the critical theory of ex: Muslims sees reality through the lens of the Church, one gets the impression, once again, that the criticism of Islam can only be a criticism necessarily collected by the church which instrumentalizes converts to lead an irresponsible campaign to denigrate Islam.

Christians could have stopped there. But they always have fun telling us stories of a number of ex-Muslims and their renunciation of Islam, as if to believe the stupidities of these misguided, but the fact that these ex-Muslims represent for Islam?

The reasons evoked by these ex Muslims, seems at first dictated by the religious of the church, namely:
Be convinced that Islam is not a true religion!!!!
Affirm loud and clear the supposed violence of the Koran!!!!!
Affirm loud and clear a persecution with a death threat!!!!
Affirm that you have met Jesus Christ to finally find eternal rest!!!
Claim to be saved by Jesus!!!!

The church which knew how to adapt its discourse and no longer attacks Muslims head on, but attacks Islam to claim and manage these intoxicants and theories which come to flatter the ex: Muslims, exacerbating the clichés in an excess of religiosity and societal testimonies.

Because imbecility becomes the majority that turns it into intelligence, because to reject your religion is to abandon part of yourself.

It proves what the case of these ex; Muslims?
Is there a contest somewhere?

Above all, it should be noted that it is enough to measure the quality of those who leave Islam without ever being true Muslims, and of those who return to Islam after a mature conviction supported by studies first, to note that the difference is significant.

So we call these cases of ex: Muslim become Christian after having met Jesus in a dream, or having received the Call of Christ (What all claim) after having lived many persecutions. Also after his conversion and his faith in Jesus Christ, he is saved!
In addition, Christians in their churches tend to mistrust these ex-Muslims, and more often than not they say to themselves;
Aren't they Christians like us?
I have never seen so many untruths in the altitude of ex: Muslims to put these shots end to end can only demonstrate a bad Islam when Islam is really something else: Happiness.

Someone said "if I'm right, let me be granted if I'm wrong, let me be proven;"

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I was tempted to do some research on the Letters of the Apostles, on which it is said that their dates are more assured. The documentation consulted makes me say the following:

Most of the letters are addressed to churches rather than individuals, which clearly indicates that these are not real letters at all, but in fact that they are theology disguised as correspondence, and the length of several d 'between them - "Romans", for example, is longer than many ancient books. All the epistles are troubled by disorder and inaccuracy.

With the book of Acts, the epistles have a crucial objective: they constitute a bridge between the scene in Palestine described in the Gospels and the emerging churches of the end of the second century. The very existence of so-called letters confirms the myth of a unified church. The epistles proved the legitimacy of their churches and approved the episcopal right to govern as servants of Christ.

As it stands, there is no copy of a New Testament letter prior to the 2nd century, that is, nothing that predates the ruthless sectarian conflicts and bitter doctrinal battles of the 2nd century - a At that time false apostolic writings were primary weapons in the war of the sects of early Christianity.

I will take as an example the thirteen letters which bear the name of Paul, nine of them are addressed to churches and four to individuals. Do they prove something?


Curiously, the four Gospels do not mention or even suggest an adventurous apostle called Paul. For evangelical writers, Paul does not exist. It is just as curious that Paul's letters do the same, that is, the ignorance of the evangelists. Indeed, the evangelist Matthew, the tax collector so gifted at finding prophecies about Jesus in the Jewish Scriptures, is not so much named in any Pauline epistle.

If I should say a word about Paul, I should ask:
Why did Jesus return to earth to convert Paul through a vision?
Why did he not simply allow his own disciples to faithfully proclaim his message with one vision.
Did the disciples of Jesus, disciples of the Jewish God, followers of the Jewish Scriptures, baffled by the teaching of Jesus, mistakenly believing that he was the Jewish Messiah, even after his death and resurrection, continued to interpret the words, deeds and death of Jesus in light of their understanding of Judaism. This is why Paul had to face the disciple of Jesus, Peter, and James the brother of Jesus as seen in the letter to the Galatians.

I remain of course categorical to see that the letters do not offer any continuous narrative and nobody has a real idea of the unfolding of their composition from where the sustained uncertainty in the origin of the letters and their obvious incompatibility with the history ancient of Christianity. Precisely when it comes to understanding:

When they were written!
By whom they were written!
Where they were written!

It is very useful to wonder why all these letters from the Apostles (Personal Correspondence) or even the story of the Mantle of Paul, are they inspired by the Holy Spirit, this remains an endless speculation test?

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Was Jesus' Last Supper a Passover seder? And the answer will probably be yes !!
Is there a connection between the Jewish Passover and the Christian Passover ... Yes of course and a close relationship? Yet Jesus could very well have known what a "seder" was, and for having modeled his Last Supper on it, even if the elements of the primitive seder were born decades after his death. It is because Jesus was, as we know, a Jew respectful of the commandments and that on the day of Pesach he went naturally to the Temple to sacrifice a lamb on the altar of the Temple, as biblically prescribed

"You will sacrifice the Passover offering ... where the Lord ... will dwell his name [Temple of Jerusalem]" (Deuteronomy 16: 2)

He was celebrating Pesach, moreover, it was on this occasion that he was arrested by the Romans, tried and condemned. And from there, there was the development of all Christian theology of the Last Supper, although no seder of this kind could have been practiced in the time of Jesus.

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It is amazing to see the gap between these European Pentecostals and these American fundamentalist Protestants, who also have their equivalents in Judaism, which remains above all a purely racial doctrine very timid and which weeps enormously over its past, completely obsessed with questions of genealogical descent .. Even God became God of Israel. The submission is reversed and the Promised Land has become theirs, exclusively.

Pentecostal groups (the ecstatic branch of Protestantism) very emotional, passing through reformed Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical groups, each of which has its own particularities, which is characteristic of a highly codified liturgy, the first Pentecostals are then convinced that the so speaking it in tongues (glossolalia) is a third blessing, after conversion and sanctification. The Church of Pentecost (Assemblies of God) or Pentecostals, these are the families of churches founded by Parham and Seymour in 1901 and 1906 in the United States. They define the pseudo-Christian experience in two stages: conversion (by repentance) and baptism of the Spirit (often by laying on of hands), the initial sign of which is speaking it in tongues.
 
To them it’s a new, manifest sign of the work of the Holy Ghost. Better still, it should make it possible to proclaim the Gospel to all peoples and in all languages, a condition they believe is necessary for the return of Christ to earth. "Now there is no need to learn foreign languages," says a specialist in evangelism. Because of the Spirit, he thinks, missionaries will be able to preach miraculously in all the languages of the earth. "
Other evangelicals, on the contrary, consider that it is, at best, a useless deception, at worst a demonic manifestation. But it's difficult to face the fear of ridicule.

We can make an apocalyptic scenario about a possible end of the world, but as always, the only beneficiaries will be all the Christian clergy and their consort sometimes forgetting that sectarianism can be done everywhere. That said, people are ready to follow this legion of mystifiers and scammers who know everything, they say they have a healing ministry, it's more biblical. They would be very wrong not to take advantage of it because it is not the sheep that will miss in the next times,
And to say that they condemn the Muslim extremism is a historical misinterpretation !!!!!!
américain, et la première source religieuse du pays, devant les catholiques et les protestants traditionnels

Historically, Pentecostalism began as a revitalizing impulse for evangelicals who expected a rebirth of the Holy Spirit before the imminent arrival of Christ. Pentecostalism embraces different branches. It covers, in fact, different currents which sometimes differ significantly. The political use of religion nourished its influence and gave birth to the Bible Belt, imbued with a shared desire to increase the power of religion in society, transformed churchmen into fervent political activists to make it one. political movement marked by a biblical culture of the evangelical and fundamentalist type.

For a few years, the Pentecostals, the only current that is characterized by the enhancement of the charisms of prophecy and healing, speaking it in languages stemming from the power of the Holy Spirit, and which therefore give importance to very expressive manifestations, songs, dances, and sometimes trances, as can be seen in American churches. One in four Americans is evangelical, according to the Pew Institute. It is the dominant form of American Protestantism, and the primary religious source in the country, ahead of Catholics and traditional Protestants

A true evangelical nebula that belongs to independent churches that are not very organized and supportive of each other, inspired by a radical Protestantism exalted by self-proclaimed pastors borrowing from the Bible the reasons for their fierce fight against homosexuality, abortion, sexuality outside marriage , for Evangelical Protestants, proselytism is inseparable from the act of faith.

when the Pastor claims to embody the truth on his own, then we can speak of sectarian drift, he is at the same time community animator, preacher, exorciser and therapist, one of the singularities of the Pastor is the importance he attaches to charisma when his word of the preacher prevails over the biblical text marked by an ecclesiological deficit to encourage a periodic and simplistic reading still little documented, He is even emboldened to invest with force the Islamic universe, There is indeed a focus on Islam, to suggest the idea that Muslim countries constitute the ultimate frontier where decisive confrontation will be played out

We saw a pastor tell his congregation of over 12,000 people not to give in to the "demonic spirit of fear" and to continue to attend the meetings!
-Another closer to God in the Bible, said he was invested against the coronavirus of a power from the "throne room of God"!
-Another Pentecostal preacher and pastor saying that fear of the coronavirus was a sin!
-Another more prophetic pastor also had a prophetic message regarding the coronavirus nations would be in disarray for a period, and that Christians should not fear what they (non-believers) fear. That the origin of the virus is a spiritual combat and the Pastor had established a direct link between the coronavirus and the demonic forces.
-According to another Pastor the coronavirus is part of the plans of the enemy, that is to say of Satan, thus hindering the spread of the Gospel message and the conversion of people to Christ.
-Other pastors had also recommended to Christians not to fear death, but to believe what Paul wrote in his epistle to the Romans: "If we live, we live for the Lord, and if we die, we die for the Lord; then, whether we live or die, we are of the Lord ", and then, saying in final:
"So what do we have to lose?
-For other priests, the best way to protect his parishioners is to have to use holy water in water guns, after recognizing that modern medicine could help fight pandemics, but have also done reference to what they called the
"Biblical protection based on Psalm 91":

In Israel, the rabbis of superficial spirits believe that the Torah protects and saves: those who study enough should therefore be spared, however an Orthodox rabbi said that the epidemic of the Coronavirus is caused by the proliferation of homosexuality. "When someone goes against nature, the One who created nature takes revenge against him. "
According to him, the Arab countries would be spared the virus because therefore "do not have this diabolical inclination". On the other hand, with regard to Iran, extremely affected by the epidemic, a consequence, according to him, of its "hatred of Israel". Just that. !!!!!!!

However, we have seen that the evangelical gathering in Mulhouse led to the contamination by the virus of several French departments as elsewhere in South Korea where a similar movement contributed to the massive spread of the virus.

All these religious read the Bible, they study it closely but interpret it in a thousand ways, hence a phenomenal number of configurations of worship, and common sectarian aberrations. All these promises and assurances of human bliss behind the voices of angels and trumpet concerts are said openly to the general public.
So we are in a Manichean style register with a message full of empathy, which will undoubtedly find an echo in the Assemblies of God.

These religious proclaim that their Church is the only holder of the truth which by many aspects evokes a federation of sects, intends to convert the world. Pentecostalism embraces different branches. It covers, in fact, different currents which sometimes differ significantly which sooner or later will turn against them, the subject is not there.

In the meantime, we are having fun with all this jumble of ridiculous information in the ideology and imagination of these evangelical currents, support for Israel occupies a central place, for absolutely theological and eschatological reasons.

Believing in the end times, they hope for the return of Jesus on Earth, subject to the condition, of the return of all Jews to the land of Israel. He finds himself in the idea that the creation of the State of Israel, in 1948, corresponds to a fulfillment of these prophecies. God of Israel himself would manifest, through the creation of the Jewish state, his sovereign will.

This conviction, particularly strong among Pentecostals, was reinforced by the development of the Messianic Jewish movement. Messianic Jews refer to Jews who have converted to Christianity. Pentecostals see this recent conversion phenomenon as historical confirmation of a reading of prophecy that God, in the last days, will convert all Jews to Christianity.

We are led to ask questions about the practices of this religious movement of the old sinners recycled in morality who believe in Armageddon, the final and next battle between the forces of Good and Evil and share their vision at the imminent return of Jesus Christ to rule the Earth as King of kings and Lord of lords. To the extreme?

You may be surprised to learn that Armageddon is mentioned only once in the Bible: ". For they are spirits of demons, who perform wonders, and who go to the kings of all the earth, to gather them for the fight of the great day of the Almighty God. Behold, I come like a thief. Happy is he who watches, and keeps his clothes, so that he does not walk naked and that one does not see his shame! They gathered them together in the place called Hebrew Armageddon ”(Revelation 16: 13-16).

Pentecostal gurus think that the problem with the pandemic is that there are too many of us on this earth, that the current calamities are leading to great tribulation, so great that "no one would be saved" alive if Christ did not intervene. These crises, according to these preachers of doom and many others still, are all prophecies that will torment the world in the coming years, but thanks to the God of the Bible, he promises protection.
In Exodus 15, he promised not to strike "any of these diseases," if we obey him (verse 26).
He also promises to heal us when we are sick (James 5:16).

Thanks to the orchestrated masses and the televised sessions of biblical readings that they organize, these new born worshipers of the Holy Spirit endowed with the faith of madmen of God make a little world of their own, from which they draw the return of Jesus. christ, the rhetoric of the apocalypse and the proximity of the end.
Satan is the author of anxiety and these Sects have an ideal of strength and sovereignty, and their guides dream of power and greatness!

For these new prophets of spiritual charlatanism of lies, overexcitations, excessive pride, exaggerated theories, thrills, occult inspirations, a spirit of falsehood, in short, an unhealthy desire for ever new, concrete experiences and strong emotions, pretend of the divine will having for mission to govern us the life. It may be billions to believe in God, the creator of the World, it does not change anything

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C'est hallucinant de voir l’écart entre ces pentecôtistes Européens et ces protestants fondamentalistes Américains, qui ont aussi leurs équivalents dans le Judaïsme, qui reste surtout une doctrine purement raciale bien timide et qui pleure énormément sur son passé, totalement obnubilée par des questions de descendance généalogiques.. Même Dieu est devenu Dieu d’Israël. La soumission est inversée et la terre promise est devenue la leur, exclusivement.

Des groupes pentecôtistes (la branche extatique du Protestantisme) très émotionnels en passant par des groupes réformés baptistes, méthodistes, évangéliques, qui ont chacun leurs particularités, ce qui est le propre d’une liturgie très codifiée, les premiers pentecôtistes sont alors persuadés que le don le parler en langue (glossolalie) est une troisième bénédiction, après la conversion et la sanctification.  L’Église de Pentecôte (les Assemblées de Dieu) ou des pentecôtistes, il s'agit des familles d'Églises fondées par Parham et Seymour en 1901 et 1906 aux États-Unis. Elles définissent l'expérience pseudo chrétienne en deux étapes: la conversion (par la repentance) et le baptême de l'Esprit (souvent par imposition des mains) dont le signe initial est le parler en langues.
 
C’est pour eux un nouveau signe manifeste de l’action du Saint-Esprit. Mieux, il devrait permettre d’annoncer l’Évangile à tous les peuples et dans toutes les langues, condition nécessaire selon eux au retour du Christ sur terre. “Désormais, nul besoin d’apprendre les langues étrangères, explique un spécialiste de l’évangélisme. Grâce à l’action de l’Esprit, pense t-il, les missionnaires pourront prêcher miraculeusement dans toutes les langues de la terre.”
D’autres évangéliques, considèrent au contraire que c’est, au mieux, une supercherie inutile, au pire une manifestation démoniaque. Mais c'est difficile d'affronter la peur du ridicule.

On peut se faire un scénario apocalyptique sur une éventuelle fin du monde, mais comme toujours, les seuls bénéficiaires seront tous les clergés chrétiens et leur consort oubliant parfois que le sectarisme peut se faire un peu partout. Cela dit, les gens sont prêts à suivre cette légion de mystificateurs et arnaqueurs qui savent tout, eux ils disent qu’ils ont un ministère de guérison, c'est plus biblique. Ils auraient bien tord de ne pas en profiter car ce ne sont pas les moutons qui vont manquer dans les temps prochains,
Et dire qu'ils condamnent le musulman d'extrémisme, c'est un contresens historique !!!!!!

Historiquement, le Pentecôtisme a commencé comme un élan revitalisant les  évangéliques   qui   attendaient une renaissance du Saint-Esprit avant l’arrivée imminente du Christ. Le Pentecôtisme embrasse différentes branches. Il recouvre, en effet, différents courants qui parfois diffèrent sensiblement. L’utilisation politique faîte de la religion a nourri son influence et a donné naissance à la Bible Belt imprégné par une volonté partagée d’accroître le pouvoir de la religion dans la société transforma les hommes d’églises en fervents activistes politiques  pour en faire un mouvement politique marqué par une culture biblique de type évangélique et fondamentaliste.

Depuis quelques années, les pentecôtistes le seul courant qui se caractérise par la valorisation des charismes de prophétie et de guérison, le parler en langues issus de la force du Saint Esprit, et qui de ce fait donnent une importance aux manifestations très expressives, chants, danses, et parfois transes, comme on peut le voir dans les églises américaines. Un Américain sur quatre est évangélique, selon l’institut Pew. C’est la forme dominante du protestantisme américain, et la première source religieuse du pays, devant les catholiques et les protestants traditionnels

Une véritable nébuleuse évangélique qui appartient à des Églises indépendantes peu organisées et solidaires entre elles, inspirées par un protestantisme radical exalté par des pasteurs autoproclamés empruntant à la Bible les motifs de leur combat acharné contre l'homosexualité, l'avortement, la sexualité hors mariage, pour les protestants évangéliques, le prosélytisme est inséparable de l’acte de foi.

lorsque le Pasteur prétend incarner à lui seul la vérité, alors on peut parler de dérive sectaire, il est à la fois animateur de communauté, prédicateur, exorciseur et thérapeute , l’une des singularités du Pasteur est l’importance qu’il accorde au charisme lorsque sa parole du prédicateur l’emporte sur le texte biblique marqué par un déficit ecclésiologique pour encourager à une lecture périodique et simpliste encore peu documentée, Il s’enhardit même à investir avec force l’univers islamique, Il y a effectivement une focalisation sur l’islam, pour suggérer l’idée que les pays musulmans constituent la frontière ultime où se jouera l’affrontement décisif.

On y voit des prophètes fourbes de circonstance se prennent pour Isaïe, Ézéchiel, Daniel ou Zacharie, et qui grâce à leur connexion directe avec la Jérusalem céleste, révèlent les secrets du trône de Dieu et les pièges du Mal, dans des délires extatiques. Ce sont des mises en scène de la perfidie et des pièges de la corruption.
 
-Nous avons vu un pasteur dire à sa congrégation de plus de 12 000 personnes de ne pas céder à « l’esprit démoniaque de la peur » et de continuer à assister aux réunions !
-Un autre plus proche de Dieu de la Bible, s’est dit investie contre le coronavirus d’un pouvoir   en provenance de la « salle du trône de Dieu » !
-Un autre prédicateur pentecôtiste et pasteur  disant que la peur du coronavirus était un péché !.
-Un autre pasteur plus prophète avait aussi un message prophétique concernant le coronavirus   les nations seraient en désarroi pendant une période, et que les chrétiens ne doivent pas craindre ce qu’ils (les non-croyants) craignent. Que l’origine du virus est un  combat spirituel et le Pasteur avait établit un lien direct entre le coronavirus et les forces démoniaques.
-Selon un autre Pasteur le coronavirus fait partie des plans de l’ennemi, c’est-à-dire de Satan, nuisant ainsi à la progression du message de l’Évangile et la conversion des gens au Christ.
-D’autres pasteurs avaient également recommandés aux chrétiens de ne pas craindre la mort, mais croire ce que Paul a écrit dans son épître aux Romains : « Si nous vivons, nous vivons pour le Seigneur, et si nous mourons, nous mourons pour le Seigneur ; alors, que nous vivions ou que nous mourions, nous sommes du Seigneur », et puis, en disant en final :
« Qu’avons-nous donc à perdre ?
-Pour d’autres Prêtres, le meilleur moyen de protéger ses paroissiens, c’est d’avoir à utiliser Eau bénite dans des pistolets à eau, après avoir reconnu que la médecine moderne pourrait aider à lutter contre les pandémies, mais ont également fait référence à ce qu'il ont appelé la
«Protection biblique basée sur le Psaume 91»:

En Israël, les Rabbins des esprits superficiels, estiment que la Torah protège et sauve: celui qui étudie suffisamment devrait donc être épargné, cependant un rabbin orthodoxe a indiqué que l’épidémie du Coronavirus est causée par la prolifération de l’homosexualité.  «Quand quelqu’un va contre la nature, Celui qui a créé la nature se venge contre lui. »
D’après lui, les pays arabes seraient épargnés par le virus car n’ont donc « pas ce penchant diabolique». Par contre à propos de l’Iran, extrêmement affecté par l’épidémie, conséquence selon lui de sa «haine d’Israël ». Rien que ça. !!!!!!!

Pourtant nous avons vu que le rassemblement évangélique de Mulhouse a conduit à la contamination par le virus de plusieurs départements français comme d'ailleurs en Corée du Sud ou un mouvement analogue à contribué a la propagation massive du virus.

Tous ces religieux lisent la Bible, ils l'étudient de près mais l'interprètent de mille manières d'où un nombre phénoménal de configurations de cultes, et des dérives sectaires courantes. Toutes ces promesses et assurances d'une béatitude humaine derrière des voix d'anges et des concerts de trompettes, sont dites ouvertement au grand public.
Donc on se situe bien dans un registre de type manichéen avec un message plein d’empathie, qui trouvera sans doute de l’écho, dans les Assemblées de Dieu.

Ces religieux proclament que leur Eglise est la seule détentrice de la vérité qui par de nombreux aspects évoquent une fédération de sectes, entendent convertir le monde. Le Pentecôtisme embrasse différentes branches. Il recouvre, en effet, différents courants qui parfois diffèrent sensiblement qui tôt ou tard vont se retourner contre eux, le sujet n’est pas là.

En attendant on s’amuse bien avec tout ce fatras d’informations ridicules dans l’idéologie et l’imaginaire de ces courants evangelites, le soutien à Israël occupe une place centrale, pour des raisons absolument théologiques et eschatologiques.

Croyant à la fin des temps, ils espèrent le retour de Jésus sur Terre, soumis à la condition, du retour de tous les juifs sur la terre d’Israël. Il se retrouve dans l’idée que la création de l’État d’Israël, en 1948, correspond à un accomplissement de ces prophéties. Dieu d’Israël lui-même, manifesterait, au travers de la création de l’État juif, sa volonté souveraine.

Cette conviction, particulièrement forte parmi les pentecôtistes, a été renforcée par le développement du mouvement des Juifs messianiques. Les juifs messianiques désignent des juifs convertis au christianisme. Les pentecôtistes voient dans ce récent phénomène de conversion la confirmation historique d’une lecture des prophéties suivant laquelle Dieu, dans les derniers temps, convertira tous les Juifs au christianisme.

On est amené a se poser des questions sur les pratiques de cette mouvance  religieuse des anciens pécheurs recyclés dans la morale qui croient à l’Armageddon, la bataille finale et prochaine entre les forces du Bien et du Mal et partagent leur vision au retour imminent de Jésus-Christ pour gouverner la Terre comme Roi des rois et Seigneur des seigneurs. Jusqu’à l’extrême?

Vous serez peut-être surpris d'apprendre qu'Armageddon n'est mentionné qu'une seule fois dans la Bible : «. Car ce sont des esprits de démons, qui font des prodiges, et qui vont vers les rois de toute la terre, afin de les rassembler pour le combat du grand jour du Dieu tout-puissant. Voici, je viens comme un voleur. Heureux celui qui veille, et qui garde ses vêtements, afin qu'il ne marche pas nu et qu'on ne voie pas sa honte ! Ils les rassemblèrent dans le lieu appelé en hébreu Harmaguédon » (Apocalypse 16 : 13-16).

Des gourous pentecôtistes pensent que le problème de la pandémie, est que nous sommes trop nombreux sur cette terre, que les calamités actuelles conduisent à une grande tribulation, si grande que « personne ne serait sauvé » vivant si le Christ n'intervenait pas. Ces crises,  selon ces prêcheurs de malheur et bien d'autres encore, sont autant de prophéties qui vont tourmenter le monde dans les prochaines années, mais grâce au Dieu de la Bible, il promet une protection.
Dans Exode 15, il a promis de ne frapper « d’aucune de ces maladies », si nous lui obéissons (verset 26).
Il promet également de nous guérir lorsque nous serons malades (Jacques 5 : 16).

A la faveur des messes orchestrés et des séances télévisés de lectures bibliques qu'ils organisent ces nouveaux nés adorateurs de l'Esprit saint dotés de la foi de fous de Dieu se fabriquent un petit monde à eux, dans lequel ils puisent le retour de Jésus christ, la rhétorique de l'apocalypse et de la proximité de la fin.
Satan est l'auteur de l'anxiété et ces Sectes ont un idéal de force et de souveraineté, et leurs guides  rêvent de puissance et de grandeur!

Pour ces nouveaux prophètes du charlatanisme spirituel de mensonges, de surexcitations, d’orgueil démesuré, de théories exagérées, de sensations fortes, d’inspirations occultes, d’un esprit de fausseté, bref, un désir malsain d'expériences toujours nouvelles, concrètes et d'émotions fortes, se prétendent de la volonté divine ayant pour mission de nous régenter la vie. On a beau être des milliards à croire en Dieu, le créateur du Monde, cela ne change rien !!!!!

 
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