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Offline zulfiqarchucknorris

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Executing Muslims For Kiling A non Muslim
« on: October 25, 2014, 03:55:34 PM »
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I recently stumbled upon a few hadiths which all state that the Caliph Ali had with him a peace of paper and he said that, basically, that in addition to the quran, God also had something written down whats on a piece of paper.
There are multiple Hadiths on this issue, you can find most of them here:
http://sunnah.com/search/Ali-Paper (to find the complete arabic version and to find out whether the hadith in question is Weak or Authentic, click on the hadith)
I have a few questions on these hadiths:
1. Each Hadith mentions something different that is written in these papers, which one is true?
2. Some Hadiths state the a muslim is not killed if he kills a non muslim, What is the rationale behind this?
3. I am an Arabic speaker and the hadith is more properly translated as "A Muslim is not killed for a disbeliever", does this really mean that a muslim is not killed for murdering an innocent dsbeliever?
4. If "a muslim is not killed for murdering a disbeliever" is false since there are many sayings on what was written on that paper, could you please provide a story or hadith (source stated), in which the prophet executed a muslim for murdering a non muslim?

Thanks in advance,
Keep up the good work Mr. Osama Abdallah

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« Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 03:58:50 PM by zulfiqarchucknorris »

Offline Hassan Abdulghani

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Re: Executing Muslims For Kiling A non Muslim
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 04:42:17 PM »
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Each Hadith mentions something different that is written in these papers, which one is true?

- In my opinion , that is not the only Hadith . Hadiths are Hadiths and hadiths can have multiple narrations since they are not as authentic as the Quran is . I have seen similar things appearing like the one of what you posted . The Hadiths may differ in words but that does not change the point that particular narration is trying to reach .

And since you are an Arabic Speaker , as well as I am . I want you to refer to these articles and hope that they will be beneficial for you :

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=12664&idto=12665&bk_no=52&ID=3817

http://www.bayanelislam.net/Suspicion.aspx?id=03-03-0071&value=&type=

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Re: Executing Muslims For Kiling A non Muslim
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 05:34:21 PM »
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Thanks, although i usually access fath al bukhari though this sight.
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Loader.aspx?pageid=261
in fath al bari, as you posted, it says that the muslim is killed for murdering an innocent dhimmi, but how about if a muslim goes to foreign country and kills him/her, does that count as a mu'ahid?
In addition, could you answer the other questions.

Thanks :)
Peace
PS: Ant 3arabi? wa idha kunt 3arabi, min ay dawla, ana min aso3odiyya

 

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