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Offline Isa27James

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how do.i.respond to.this with Islamic view
« on: May 31, 2015, 02:05:34 AM »
Assalam.akykam  a christian.said the following

One day we will all be judged by God for violating his moral Law the Ten Commandments. Jesus said there was no one good but God. If a man or woman lusts in their heart it's the same as adultery, if you hate your brother, you are guilty of murder, God said you shall not commit adultery, and you should not kill. Let me ask you something...have you ever lied, or blasphemed Gods holy name? Have you stolen anything, like someone's virginity? Have you ever been jealous? God desires truth in the inward parts, not only in our actions but in our thought life and in the motives of our heart.

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Re: how do.i.respond to.this with Islamic view
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 07:30:53 AM »
Assalam.akykam  a christian.said the following

One day we will all be judged by God for violating his moral Law the Ten Commandments. Jesus said there was no one good but God. If a man or woman lusts in their heart it's the same as adultery, if you hate your brother, you are guilty of murder, God said you shall not commit adultery, and you should not kill. Let me ask you something...have you ever lied, or blasphemed Gods holy name? Have you stolen anything, like someone's virginity? Have you ever been jealous? God desires truth in the inward parts, not only in our actions but in our thought life and in the motives of our heart.

What is your question? What should be answered?

We know that in islam, our intention is as important as our deeds..

Quran 2:225
Allah does not impose blame upon you for what is unintentional in your oaths, but He imposes blame upon you for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing.

Quran 9:107
And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against Allah and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But Allah doth declare that they are certainly liars.

(they build mosques, which is such a gooddeed, but their intention is not actually to do good, but to cause troubles..! And are called liars by Allah.

Quran 33:5
Call them by (the names of) their fathers: that is juster in the sight of Allah. But if ye know not their father's (names, call them) your Brothers in faith, or your maulas. But there is no blame on you if ye make a mistake therein: (what counts is) the intention of your hearts: and Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.



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Re: how do.i.respond to.this with Islamic view
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 09:27:30 AM »
Islam ordered punishment after the crime :

 There is a kind of scale that will weigh those deeds.  We tried to emphasize that this doesn’t mean that accountability is that mechanical.  We mentioned the various quotations from the Quran indicating that accountability is done with full justice, fairness and generosity.  We said that for one evil deed only one is recorded against in the record and for one good deed it is sometimes multiplied by 10, 70 and sometimes 700 depending on ones intentions.  So one gets a lot more reward than punishment and we indicated that there is a great deal of room for grace.  We don’t really enter paradise just because of our deeds.  Grace is there for those who seek it.

there are four types recording deed

1) a man intend a crime & did it>>>>it record as "one crime"
2) a man intend a crime ,but didn't it>>>it record as " one good act"
3) a man intend a good ,but not didn't it>>> it record as " one good"
4) a man intend a good & did it >>>it record 70 -700 times depending on ones intentions

THAT MEANS ISLAM NOT FOLLOWED INTENDED CRIME ,PUNISHMENT ONLY SINNER(THAT ONE DID THE CRIME),BUT ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY WE ALL R SINNED ,BEC'S ADAM DID IT,BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE JESUS PAY FOR IT,THAT IS FOOLISH & MADNESS & BLINDNESS CONCEPT OF SALVATION ,WHAT THE LOGIC WAS THAT ? THAT LEADS TO WE R ALL SINNER BY BIRTH,HOPELESS,LACK OF CONFIDENCE,THAT IS CHRISTIANITY WAS A RELIGION OF PUNISHMENT & SINNERS ,BUT ISLAM NOT LIKE THAT ISLAM LEADS TO HUMAN TO TRUTH ,LIGHTS,PARADISE ,HOPE & SALVATION  ...........
Every child born with true nature of Islam(PURE SOUL):
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 440, 441,465,467,423,425,426,427,428,429
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 441
Narrated Abu Huraira :

Allah's Apostle said, "Every child is born with a true faith of Islam (i.e. to worship none but Allah Alone) but his parents convert him to Judaism, Christianity or Magainism, as an animal delivers a perfect baby animal. Do you find it mutilated?" Then Abu Huraira recited the holy verses: "The pure Allah's Islamic nature (true faith of Islam) (i.e. worshipping none but Allah) with which He has created human beings. No change let there be in the religion of Allah (i.e. joining none in worship with Allah). That is the straight religion (Islam) but most of men know, not." (30.30)

every Child/infant[dead before puberty] going to paradise
Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2515
Narrated Hasana' daughter of Mu'awiyah:
She reported on the authority of her paternal uncle: I asked the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him): Who are in Paradise? He replied: Prophets are in Paradise, martyrs are in Paradise, infants are in Paradise and children buried alive are in Paradise.


mad,children,sleeper not punishment for their crime :

Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4387
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty?

Not money punishment for accident/unknown/animal crime:

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 48, 47
Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 24 :: Hadith 575
Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4239

No punishment for unknown crime/without witness:
33: 5. Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allâh. But if you know not their father's (names, call them) your brothers in faith and Mawâlîkum (your freed slaves). And there is no sin on you if you make a mistake therein, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allâh is Ever Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 838
Narrated Al-Qasim bin Muhammad:
Ibn 'Abbas mentioned the couple who had taken the oath of Lian. 'Abdullah bin Shaddad said (to him), "Was this woman about whom Allah's Apostle said, 'If I were ever to stone to death any woman without witnesses. (I would have stoned that woman to death)?' Ibn 'Abbas replied," No, that lady exposed herself (by her suspicious behavior)."

 

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