Author Topic: Farhan Qureshi left Islam, why i heard he used to debate as part of answering ch  (Read 7787 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Introvert98

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • View Profile
Farhan Qureshi Renounces Islam
Farhan Qureshi was raised as an Ahmadi Muslim, but later became an orthodox Muslim. (Ahmadis believe in all five pillars and all six articles of faith of Sunni Islam, but they have some different beliefs about end times. Unfortunately, their unorthodox eschatological views have led to worldwide persecution at the hands of their more orthodox counterparts.)

Sam, Nabeel, James, and I have had a number of public debates with Farhan on the Deity of Christ, the inspiration of the Qur'an, the prophethood of Muhammad, and other topics (click here to watch some of our debates with Farhan). Farhan was once a member of the infamous Muslim Debate Initiative (which seems to be crumbling). The general consensus of those of us who knew Farhan was this: "It's only a matter of time before Farhan leaves Islam. He's too good a guy to keep defending these teachings."

Recently, Farhan circulated a letter declaring his apostasy. I didn't post the letter or announce his decision, since I wasn't sure he wanted this information to go public. However, Farhan has now quite publicly proclaimed his apostasy. Here's the announcement posted on Faith Freedom:

After years of having been involved in think tanks, advocacy groups, da’wah (invitation or propagation) initiatives and academic apologetics as a Muslim, I have I decided to evolve my perspective of reality and existence as knowledge has reached me and renounce my faith in Islam. This was a thought out decision that took months of prayer, consideration, evaluation and knowledge-seeking on my part. Every bit as it has been a search for meaning and truth is has been a grieving process for me to realize that what I have been attached to all of these years is in fact not the ultimate reality behind our existence. Nevertheless it is simultaneously liberation and continued enlightenment that brings about serenity and peace of mind for me as well.

My apostasy has not been based on disliking Islam or its requirements rather it was based on a realization that Islam is in direct contradiction with contemporary knowledge involving and including science, philosophy, ethics, anthropology, and the field which I am most interested in, educated in and practice as my line of work, namely, psychology: the science and study of human behavior.

In the coming months I plan to contribute articles to FFI which explore the behavior and psyche of the different types of Muslims out there: the western Muslim, the mystic (Sufi), the purist (Salafi), and the politically driven (Hizb/Ikhwan) are among the many colors of the Ummah, each having its own set of advocates with unique behaviors and mentality. I have spent time and energy studying and experiencing the different denominations and sub-cultures within the Ummah. Having experienced their spirituality and religiosity first hand, having studied with their scholars and preachers, and having read books, articles and arguments from them, I believe that I have a grasp of where they stand psychologically and I plan to explore this more in-depth in the near future as I publish articles.

I realized that 1400 years worth of consistent Islamiyya theology is not what I believed was the ultimate truth, rather I realized that it was a primitive attempt at understanding and implementing social, spiritual, religious and ethical standards. These seventh century standards might give slight insight into how humanity, and in this case, Arab civilization was evolving and progressing from its previous ‘jahiliyya’ or ignorance, and yet effectively became stagnant with its own set of conservative traditionalism that would not allow Arab civilization to move forward. The only attempts at progression were the rationalist Mu’tazilites of the eight century which gave rise to what many observe as the Golden Age of Islam. Yet these rationalists were viewed as heretics and apostates themselves and would become extinct by the thirteenth century. Instead dogmatic traditionalism or Sunnah would thrive in the Muslim world and the European Renaissance with its progressive attitude would pick up where the all but extinct Middle Eastern rationalists left off.

Perhaps the most important realization I have come to is that I would receive the death penalty under Shariah law for simply coming to these conclusions or realizations. This disturbs me to the core and demonstrates how the Ummah uses fear tactics under its Shariah system in order to preserve and strengthen their theological and political agenda. What I am grateful for however is the opportunity to witness the evolution of humanity where we no longer are restricted by primitive forms of theology and law and yet we continue to strive for integrity, honesty, humility, character development, and moral stability. There is a promising future for our species and not a dark one as theologians are attempting to brainwash their adherents with.

As a Muslim apologist I remember debating at numerous types of venues including Mosques, Churches, Universities, Convention Halls and Libraries. Having engaged with notable Christian apologists such as Dr. James White, Dr. Tony Costa and Professor David Wood I learned that the purpose of apologetics was not confrontation rather to come to an understanding of truth even if it meant evolving one’s own perspective. The idea of receiving an apparent truth is to embrace it, not fight it. The moment we try to fight an apparent truth or reality we begin to dwell in hypocrisy: understanding that something is apparently true and yet denying it for selfish reasons or attachment to preconceived notions. I want to thank Ali Sina for giving me the platform to explore Islam and to expose its primitive nature as incompatible with contemporary reality unless and

Offline Saudi Salafi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • View Profile
This isn't new. He left Islam a long time ago. In 2012 I think. He as long didn't convert to Christianity, but he most likely became an Atheist. He said, "the main reason I left Islam was because of its doctrine of Hell. As a Pakistani American, I experienced diversity and plurality, and I fell in love with it! I couldn’t possibly believe that all these amazing people deserve to go to Hell.“ Notice how the filthy Christian missionaries don't care about converting Muslims into their own religion. They only want them to leave Islam! In fact, I'm 100% that the Christian missionaries wouldn't mind if he became a Satan worshipper!

Allah almighty says:

“They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another)"

[al-Nisaa’ 4:89 – interpretation of the meaning]


"And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism) if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever”[al-Baqarah 2:217]

According to the Pew research labratory, by 2050 more than 60 million Christians will leave Christianity and countries like New Zealand and the U.S will become atheist countries. Do they not know about Bart Ehrman? The former New Testament scholar who became an agnostic because of the forgeries that happened to the bible throughout history? In his book "How Jesus became God" he shows us how Jesus was first a human prophet and then the Christians turned him into the son of God and after that they turned  him into God. He also proves that about HALF of the New testament is forged! Basically in conclusion more people leave Christianity than the people who are leaving Islam.

Offline AhmadFarooq

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • View Profile
* "... rationalist Mu’tazilites of the eight century which gave rise to what many observe as the Golden Age of Islam."

A few important points to note about the Mu’tazilites, while it is true that some famous Muslim scientists of their age were Mu’tazilites, they weren't a group that can exactly be called tolerant. During the Abbasid Caliphate, when they obtained government recognition/support, they tried to force their interpretation of Islam on other Muslim scholars. The most famous of these is the "createdness" of the Qur'an. They literally tortured Muslim scholars who did not accept the concept of the "created" Qur'an. The most famous instance is of Imam Ahmed Ibn Hambal, the founder of the Hanbali school of law. They tortured him for (if I remember correctly) around 18 months but Imam Hambal remained steadfast in his viewpoint. If I am not mistaken the Mu’tazilites, because of this persecution, were responsible for creating the first religious inquisition of the Muslims.

After this when revolts started to happen against the government, it had to stop such practices and due to a twist of events, similar to what has happened so many times in history before, the persecutors became the persecuted.

From the scholars that I have read and heard, it was the gaining of political power that resulted in the beginning of decline of the Mu’tazilites. The reason that they declined to non-existence was because of the efforts of the Maturudis and Asharis. Imam Maturudi or Imam Ashari (I don't remember which one) was originally a Mu’tazilite, but he found their conclusions incorrect, therefore he separated from them. Both of these Imams, even though they used different methodologies, reached similar conclusions. The Maturudis and Asharis used the same reasoning or Kalam used by the Mu’tazilite themselves, to debate them. Later, Imam Ghazali (death 1111 CE), the person who is most accredited with combating the Mu’tazilite ideology, came into the picture. One thing that should be mentioned about Imam Ghazali is that, in today's times, he is accused of directly inhibiting the scientific progress of the Muslims, but from what I've read and heard, this is a myth. His writings appear to make attaining scientific or technical skills a social responsibility for the Muslims.

In short, (from what I understand) the Mu’tazilites were persecuted, but they weren't innocent of the same crime. It appears their ideology was defeated because of the arguments of other Muslim groups and the Ummah rejected their interpretations. This is the only way to defeat an ideology because even if a group gets persecuted to extinction, their ideas remain extant.

* "Perhaps the most important realization I have come to is that I would receive the death penalty under Shariah law for simply coming to these conclusions or realizations."

Wasn't he a Muslim debater? Shouldn't he have already known this? And for that matter, shouldn't he have also known that Muslim scholars have for centuries argued against this punishment, it is true that they have been a minority, but they have existed and wrote against this being "Shariah law".

* "This disturbs me to the core and demonstrates how the Ummah uses fear tactics under its Shariah system in order to preserve and strengthen their theological and political agenda."

Again, if he was a Muslim debater he should have known such things. If these things really affected him, these should have made him leave Islam in the very beginning, much before he wasted so much time in debating other ideologies.

Additionally, him using the FFI platform is, to say the least, extremely odd. FFI has been known to not be very objective. If a person wanted to present his views on Islam from an objective point of view, he/she should use a platform known for its objectivity and not one infamous for not presenting all the facts.

Offline submit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • View Profile
As a Pakistani American, I experienced diversity and plurality, and I fell in love with it! I couldn’t possibly believe that all these amazing people deserve to go to Hell.

That's the problem. He is in love with a nation that intrude and bombs other nations at ease for the purpose of spreading diversity and plurality. And felt that such nation is doing a right thing despite involving extreme bloodshed.

Offline submit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • View Profile
Basically he left Islam and became agnostic theist because  of
"The belief that God would create a situation where people are tortured for eternity (Hell), especially for failing to have the right theology is the most repulsive belief that one can honestly hold."

https://thedebateinitiative.com/2012/01/24/debate-is-hell-just-abdullah-al-andalusi-vs-farhan-qureshi/

Offline QuranSearchCom

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Islam is the Divine Truth!
    • View Profile
Farhan wasn't a member of the Answering Christianity team.  And his article on Faith Freedom is removed.  The article that you copied from was from Answering Muslims.  Their source was Faith Freedom.  The article in the latter site was removed.

 

What's new | A-Z | Discuss & Blog | Youtube