Author Topic: Does this verse in the Quran say that Allah deciveved the Jews  (Read 1951 times)

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Offline Introvert98

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Some Christian argue that this verse in the Quran indicates that Allah is satan because he fooled them into5thinking Jesus was crucified

 ..they [the Jews] said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah’ - But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not - Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself.”

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Re: Does this verse in the Quran say that Allah deciveved the Jews
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »
From what I understand, they manipulate the word "Makr" in verse 3:54 to mean deceivers. The word basically can be translated as "to plan", when done for a good purpose and "to deceive" when done for a bad purpose.

Details: https://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/24/response-to-critics-claim-allah-is-a-deceiver-quran-354/

Regarding similar (or better) arguments in this regard against the Bible:

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Jeremiah 4:10 Then I said, “Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats.“

Details: https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/08/28/bible-yahweh-best-of-deceivers/

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In regard to the 1 Samuel 16 incident and the “does God lie?” question, I do not think God lied.  He did, however, certainly deceive…Samuel also did not lie…But, again, he plainly withheld information and deceived Saul’s men. Both God and Samuel were deceivers in this passage, but neither were liars. God may use deception to punish evil, but he does not lie.

Details: http://spencerwatch.com/2010/08/15/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/

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Re: Does this verse in the Quran say that Allah deciveved the Jews
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2016, 10:42:29 PM »
getting crucified is penal punishment. And wicked Jews used such punishment in attempt to kill a prophet. So nobody's getting fooled.
The only event that caused many to be fooled is when Paul claimed to meet Jesus and later spread claims of resurrection after such 'encounter' with Jesus in the desert.

 

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