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Offline Zakir

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Wiki islam
« on: January 15, 2018, 03:54:10 PM »
  Wiki islam has over 2000 anti Islamic articles is there any websites countering them
2) They attack the orgins of the quran and it's science
3) They attack the hadith science e.g
 The hadith of the fly and many more
4) They say Muslims say that terrorist are minority they present facts to show this is a lie
5) They say Muslim countries are the most violent and intolerant they show statistics and have a list of honour killings by families all Muslim in modern times there were loads.
Can someone give a link or advice for each point

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 12:32:53 AM »
I thought that Wiki Islam was bought by brother Osama

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 04:25:39 AM »
I thought that Wiki Islam was bought by brother Osama

No, <infidels' site remove> is owned by infidels whereas www.Wikiislam.com is owned by Osama.

Also, Islamwiki.com is owned by Muslims users, although it has 6 articles. lol!


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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2018, 04:29:33 AM »
Zakir, watch ijihad episodes.


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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 10:16:27 AM »
I will but u jihad does not cover all of these topics some he doesn't answer

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 02:50:48 PM »
1)Does anyone no any websites countering there arguments.
 


This is a picture of what they claim the cosmology of the quran is.
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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 10:06:01 PM »
I don't know a website which specifically deal with all their articles...I know a guy who said that he's gonna debunk their points in the future but i don't know if that's gonna be soon...you can visit that one for the time being...

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 11:49:38 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Zakir, notice how they at least drew earth as a round object.  Dahaha in the Glorious Quran means:

1-  To push something and make it roll as in rolling an object down the road or hill.

2-  Spherical.

3-  To expand.

So when Allah Almighty says that the earth He DAHAHA, it means that He expanded it spherically:




Now as to the seven spherical layers, Allah Almighty specifically said that they are the sky of the earth.  They are not seven planets as presented in the image that you gave.

As to seven earths, that is a gross misunderstanding, because Allah Almighty never said 7 earths.  Allah Almighty Said that "He Created the Seven Heavens, and of the earth similar to them."  This is because the Heavens are not exactly the same.  They are similar.  And each has many earths.  So the number of earths that support life similar to ours vary between Heaven to Heaven.  And I have proven beyond any doubt from the Glorious Quran that earth in the Quran is both singular and plural.  In fact, the very verse that the infidels misuse (the one I quoted) is speaking of earth in the plural also.

For ample proofs and details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/earth.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 11:57:13 PM »
To brother Albarra.  Let us have everyone know that we are the WikiIslam site :).  No need to advertise the doomed-to-Hell infidels' site.  I would like all of the internet to get used to WikiIslam being www.wikiislam.com, insha'Allah.  The doomed-to-Hell infidels can go pound sand.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 06:55:10 AM »
1)Does anyone no any websites countering there arguments.
 


This is a picture of what they claim the cosmology of the quran is.

 ;D

 Re: Geocentricism -Quran error refuted.
Geocentrism is the notion that the earth is the centre of our universe, thus all celestial bodies (the sun, the moon and the 5 known planets) move around it. The ancient Greeks and the Europeans of the middle ages thought that the celestial bodies all moved in celestial spheres around the earth.
Heliocentrism, is the astronomical model in which the Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System.

Islam enemies say that quran is geocentric. To accuse God with such a grave accusation, we expect them to show where did quran mention that "earth is the centre of our universe" and "moon & sun move around it".

Fact: Nowhere in the quran we find such a statement; just another empty propaganda.

Their only "proof" is that geocentrism was a common belief in the past, so quran must be geocentric !

Disbelievers are making an assumption about without sufficient evidence to support the assumption. There are other more valid assumptions that can be made. Therefore, the only basis for choosing their particular assumption is because it is consistent with a particular bias.
 
They base their 'assertion' upon:
1. God did not mention that earth has an orbit.
2. makes no distinction between the movement of the moon and the movement of the sun
3. seems to associate the passing of the day and night with the movement of the sun (and moon)

Their first 2 'proofs' aren’t even relevant so they don’t even require any related explanation to begin with, while the 3rd feature is inaccurate because it disregards the textual context of the verses in question.

- God is omniscient.
- In the Qur’an, God says that the sun and the moon swim in their orbits.
- Modern astronomy confirms that the moon revolves around the earth and the sun revolves around the galaxy.
- Therefore, the orbits of the sun and the moon, as mentioned in the Qur’an, can therefore be understood to refer to moon’s circular orbit around the earth and the sun’s circular orbit around the galaxy.

The mentioning of the “night and day” cycle along with the “sun and moon” orbits in those verses does not necessarily indicate a geocentric perspective. Although they are mentioned together in several verses in the Qur’an, they are always grouped together separately from each other in all of those instances. It’s never said as “the night with the moon” or “the day with the sun” in any of those instances. In addition to that, the moon is not always visible at night nor is it only visible at night. This further disassociates the mentioning of “night and day” with the “sun and the moon”.

There is also the context of those verses as well, which is not about the day/night dichotomy, but about the signs of God in the universe with the “day and night” being one of them and the “sun and moon” being another. With regard to the verse in question:

Qur’an 21:30-36: Are the disbelievers not aware that the heavens and the earth used to be joined together and that We ripped them apart, that We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? And We put firm mountains on the earth, lest it should sway under them, and set broad paths on it, so that they might follow the right direction, and We made the sky a well-secured canopy––yet from its wonders they turn away. It is He who created night and day, the sun and the moon, each floating in its orbit. We have not granted everlasting life to any other human being before you either [Muhammad]––if you die, will [the disbelievers] live forever? Every soul is certain to taste death: We test you all through the bad and the good, and to Us you will all return. When the disbelievers see you, they laugh at you: ‘Is this the one who talks about your gods?’ They reject any talk of the Lord of Mercy.

Here, in addition to the “night and day” and “sun and moon”, we also see the mention of “the heavens and the earth”, the “mountains”, every living thing being made from water, and the “sky”. You cannot possibly associate all of those things exclusively with each other, yet the attempt is made to do so if the “day and night” happen to be mentioned in the same verse as the “sun and moon”?

Further readings:
THE HELIO-CENTRIC SYSTEM
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_104.html

Refer to this site for more refutation and use the search box at the bottom:
http://quranscientificerror.blogspot.com/2013/08/re-geocentricism-quran-error-refuted.html

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Re: Wiki islam
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2018, 07:11:13 AM »
The throne of Allah is not merely the size of earth. It encompasses earth and heavens, all creations with vast barrier of light.

The throne of Allah is above water.

The heavens are not engulfing around planet earth in form of sphere/orb, they are like sheet or scroll of paper.

Lowest heavens are filled with stars. All having their own orbits.

Invisible like pillars and invisible like tracks for planets to run means they are in balance by will of Allah.  As long as the balance is intact, earth will still be under protection and not pounded by pieces from heaven.

 

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