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SUNNI-SHIA DEBATE! / Re: Br. Osama Abdullah is the biggest hypocrite
« on: February 02, 2013, 10:33:20 AM »
FFS. Break it up both of you...please.
r3p0rt3d. b@nn3d in 4 h0ur$ n00b

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SUNNI-SHIA DEBATE! / Congratulations Br. Osama Abdullah
« on: February 02, 2013, 10:19:57 AM »
Talking about how Muslims should not be divided, and accusing other Muslim sects of polytheism, on the same page! Congratulations dude! You deserve a prize! and the prize is..........................
























Education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheism


I leave you with one question:

Do you believe that ALL Shi'a believe Ali (RA) to be an incarnate of God? Is that not a non sequitur argument?

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SUNNI-SHIA DEBATE! / Re: Created on February 1, 2013.
« on: February 02, 2013, 10:07:45 AM »
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Omg...Shi'as are kufr because they believe in another successor-different opinion! BLASPHEMY!

Seriously dude, I've studied these sects. They are not polytheists, it's all political. Meanwhile, the star spangled banner is rubbing its hands and laughing at our stupidity while we stand divided.

You obviously didn't watch the video in English, nor read what I wrote before.  I don't care about the politics that the Shias and Sunnis differ on.  Not only that, but I am with Ali against Muawiyah, and with Hussein against Yazid anyday anytime!  Most Sunnis hold this view as well.  But that's not what we're debating here.  I consider them disbelievers and polytheists because of the things they say on Allah Almighty Himself.  Not only that, but I also consider them disbelievers over the the things they also say about the Holy Quran Itself as well.  Visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/shia_kufur_in_english_part_1.wmv (in English)
http://www.answering-christianity.com/shias_kufr_exposed.wmv (in Arabic)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

*sigh*

Not gonna watch that spammish biased one sided link. I'd much rather have you provide credible, verifiable documents from well known historians. and they all say the same thing: Division due to differing opinions of a successor to the prophet. You are not a polytheist if you reject Caliphate, your opinion just differs. Those that make false assumptions and demonize people with differing opinions, such as Hitler, are known as Xenophobic.

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POLLS & VOTING / Re: POLL: What is your Religion?
« on: February 02, 2013, 06:06:24 AM »
They said, "O our father, ask for us forgiveness of our sins; indeed, we have been sinners." He said, "I will ask forgiveness for you from my Lord. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful."

Quran 12:97-98



Narrated By Anas: I heard the Prophet saying, "On the Day of Resurrection I will intercede and say, "O my Lord! Admit into Paradise (even) those who have faith equal to a mustard seed in their hearts." Such people will enter Paradise, and then I will say, 'O (Allah) admit into Paradise (even) those who have the least amount of faith in their hearts." Anas then said: As if I were just now looking at the fingers of Allah's Apostle.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 600


Duas are more likely to be accepted by Allah (SWT) from prophets (as) and Imams (as). Muslims can ask directly and they can ask through others more pious than them. Don’t Muslims ask pious Muslims to do this? Don’t Muslims ask those who fast to make dua for them? This is the same and the reason why Muslims do this is because they know the dua of those who fast or are more pious are more likely to be accepted. Shias do the same but ask the most pious of Muslims, the prophets (as) and the Imams (as). The misconception is that Shias make dua to the Imams (as) instead of Allah (SWT), Adhubillah, this is not the case but it’s understandable as people often judge by what they see while ignorant. Like seeing Shias praying on clay tablets, seems like they’re praying to it but rather they are praying on it.

I heard you have to place your head on clean Earth, that's why I use clay tablets too.

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POLITICS & RELIGION / Re: Religion and Politics
« on: February 02, 2013, 05:55:30 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,
Christians, and especially Christians, take the most blame for this, because most of their conflicts are driven by religion.  They think they're serving the purpose of GOD Almighty by making the Arabs and Muslims their enemies, despite the fact that Arabs and Muslims have agreed to make peace with Israel.  Israel is the Christians' driving reason for declaring wars on people of this magnitude.

Do you see any solution for this?  Why must conflicts arise for religion?  Why must people hate each others for religion?  Is there a solution that you can propose?  I'd like to hear what you have to say.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

I agree, Hitler motivated the Nazis using religion, and Jews today still believe they will take over Palestine as it says in the bible. HOWEVER: Muslims also make the tie between politics and religion. Sunni Muslims do it the most, especially in Middle Eastern countries. In Iran and Pakistan, Shiites dress in black and celebrate this festival or something, that is also tied to politics. In the end, Uncle Sam wants the two of you to nuke each other.

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POLLS & VOTING / Re: POLL: What is your Religion?
« on: February 02, 2013, 05:39:59 AM »
To brother Osama,

In the defence of Ali (as), waliyillah

Al-Majlisi narrated from Al-Sadooq that Ali bin Hathram said: “I attended a council with Ahmed bin Hanbal. Ali bin Abi Talib was mentioned. He said: A Sunni could not be a true Sunni unless he held something negative regarding Ali in his heart.”

Bihar Al-Anwar, Volume 49, Page 261



Narrated By Abu Mijlaz: From Qais bin Ubad: 'Ali bin Abi Talib said, "I shall be the first man to kneel down before (Allah), the Beneficent to receive His judgment on the day of Resurrection (in my favor)." Qais bin Ubad also said, "The following Verse was revealed in their connection: "These two opponents believers and disbelievers) Dispute with each other About their Lord." (22.19) Qais said that they were those who fought on the day of Badr, namely, Hamza, 'Ali, 'Ubaida or Abu 'Ubaida bin Al-Harith, Shaiba bin Rabi'a, 'Utba and Al-Wahd bin Utba.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 304



Narrated By Salama: Ali happened to stay behind the Prophet and (did not join him) during the battle of Khaibar for he was having eye trouble. Then he said, "How could I remain behind Allah's Apostle?" So 'Ali set out following the Prophet, When it was the eve of the day in the morning of which Allah helped (the Muslims) to conquer it, Allah's Apostle said, "I will give the flag (to a man), or tomorrow a man whom Allah and His Apostle love will take the flag," or said, "A man who loves Allah and His Apostle; and Allah will grant victory under his leadership." Suddenly came 'Ali whom we did not expect. The people said, "This is 'Ali." Allah's Apostle gave him the flag and Allah granted victory under his leadership.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 57, Number 52
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 520


*Note the stature of Ali (as), he will be the first to be judged by Allah (SWT), before all other caliphs, he was also given the flag of leadership rather than Abu Bakr and Umar and was given victory by Allah (SWT), it was he who washed and shrouded the holy body of the prophet (saww) and then buried him while the other caliphs left before the burial and washing. After the burial Ali (as) collected the Quran, not Abu Bakr, Abu Bakr and Umar were getting people to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr:

After the death of the Holy Prophet (saww), Ali sat down in his house and said that he had sworn an oath that he would not put on his outdoor clothes or leave his house until he collects together the Quran.

Fat'hul Bari in Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Volume 10, Page 386
Al-Fihrist, by (Ibn) an-Nadim, Page 30
Al-Itqan, by al-Suyuti, Volume 1, Page 165
Al-Masahif, by Ibn Abi Dawood, Page 10
Hilyatul Awliya', by Abu Nu'aym, Volume 1, Page 67
Al-Sahibi, by Ibn Faris, Page 79
'Umdatul Qari, by al-Ayni, Volume 20, Page 16
Kanzul Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Volume 15, Page 112-113
Al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Chapter 9, Section 4, Page 197
Ma'rifat al-Qurra' al-kibar, by al-Dhahabi, Volume 1, Page 31



Allah's Apostle (saww) said: "There will be affliction after me, therefore whenever it happens follow Ali bin Abi Talib because he separates between the truth and falsehood"

Kanz ul Ummal, Volume 11, Page 914 Number 32964
Kanz ul Ummal, Volume 11, Page 621 Number 33016



"Whoever obeys 'Ali, obeys me, whoever obeys me, obeys Allah, whoever disobeys 'Ali, disobeys me, whoever disobeys me, disobeys Allah"

Kanz al-Ummal, Number 32973



The Messenger of Allah said to Ali: "Glad tiding O Ali! Verily you and your companions and your Shia (followers) will be in Paradise."

Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 2, Page 655
Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, Volume 4, Page 329
Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, Volume 12, Page289
Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, Volume 10, Page 21-22
Al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Chapter 11, Section 1, Page 247



The Messenger of Allah (saww) said: "The Shia of Ali are the real victorious in the day of resurrection/rising"

Yanabi al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, Page 62



It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Holy prophet (may peace be upon him) said: Whoso obeys me obeys God, and whoso disobeys me disobeys God. Whoso obeys the commander (appointed by me) obeys me, and whoso disobeys the commander disobeys me.

Sahih Muslim, Book 20, Number 4518



Zirr reported: 'Ali observed: By Him Who split up the seed and created something living, the Apostle(may peace and blessings be upon him) gave me a promise that no one but a believer would love me, and none but a hypocrite would nurse grudge against me.

Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Number 141



"We recognised the hypocrites by their hatred of Ali."

Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 2, Page 639, Number 1086
Al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, Volume 3, Page 47
Al-Riyad al-Nadirah, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, Volume 3, Page 242
Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, Page 91



The Messenger of Allah said: "Loving Ali is the sign of belief, and hating Ali is the sign of
hypocrisy."


Sahih Muslim, Volume 1, Page 48
Sahih Tirmidhi, Volume 5, Page 643
Sunan Ibn Majah, Volume 1, Page 142
Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 1, Page 84
Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 1, Page 95
Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 1, Page 128
Tarikh al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Part 1, Page 202
Hilyatul Awliya', by Abu Nu'aym, Volume 4, Page 185
Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, Volume 14, Page 462



The prophet said: "Whoever I am his master, Ali is his master. O God! Love those who love him and be hostile to those who are hostile to him?"

Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Volume 2, Page 298
Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Volume 5, Page 63
Sunan Ibn Majah, Volume 1, Page 12
Sunan Ibn Majah, Volume 1, Page 43



Abu Huraira narrated: The Prophet (pbuh) looked towards Ali, al-Hassan, al-Hussein, and Fatimah (pbut), and said: "I am in the state of war with those who will fight you, and in the state of peace with those who are peaceful to you."

Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Volume 5, Page 699
Sunan Ibn Majah, Volume 1, Page 52
Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 2, Page 767, Number 1350
Al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, Volume 3, Page 149
Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, Volume 9, Page 169
Al-Kabir, by Tabarani, Volume 3, Page 30
Al-Awsat Jamius Saghir, by al-Ibani, Volume 2, Page 17
Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, Volume 7, Page 137
Sawai'q al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Chapter 11, Section 1, Page 221
Talkhis, by al-Dhahabi, Volume 3, Page 149
Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by al-Muhib al-Tabari, Page 25
Riyadh al Nadhira Volume 2, Page 199, Chapter "Manaqib 'Ali"
Mishkat al-Masabih, by Khatib al-Tabrizi, English Version, Number 6145


*First note that “(pbut)” is mentioned in the hadith when referring to “Ali, al-Hassan, al-Hussein, and Fatimah (pbut)” so saying ‘pbuh’ to the members of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is said even in Sunni sources. Note the prophet (saww) said "I am in the state of war with those who will fight you”, whoever is at war with the prophet (saww) is at war with Allah (SWT), this includes Yazid (la) and his father Muawiya (la). Aisha had a massive grudge against Ali (as) that she even went to “war” against him in the battle of the camel which claimed the lives of up to thirty thousand believers, she continued to hate him till she died and even hated his sons, she had shot an arrow on the tomb of Hassan Ibn Ali (as) from close range. Even during the life of the prophet she hated Ali (as) that she would not mention his name:

Narrated Az-Zuhari: Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah told me that 'Aisha had said, "When the Prophet became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my house, and they allowed him. He came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground. He was walking between Al-'Abbas and another man." 'Ubaidullah said, "When I informed Ibn 'Abbas of what 'Aisha had said, he asked me whether I knew who was the second man whom 'Aisha had not named. I replied in the negative. He said, 'He was 'Ali bin Abi Talib."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 47, Number 761
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 745
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 727


*She even denied Ali (as) was the successor of the prophet as she wanted her father to be his successor:

Narrated Al-Aswad: It was mentioned in the presence of 'Aisha that the Prophet had appointed 'Ali as successor by will. Thereupon she said, "Who said so? I saw the Prophet, while I was supporting him against my chest. He asked for a tray, and then fell on one side and expired, and I did not feel it. So how (do the people say) he appointed 'Ali as his successor?"

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 736



The prophet (saww) had appointed his cousin, Ali, as the caliph over the Muslims after him and had ordered his companions and his wives to congratulate him for this leadership over the believers in Ghadir Khum. Abu Bakr was among the first people to say: "Congratulations, Congratulations to you, O son of Abu Talib. Today you became the master of every believing man and woman".

Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 4, Page 281
Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, Volume 12, Page 49-50
Mishkat al-Masabih, by al-Khateeb al-Tabrizi, Page 557
Habib al-Siyar, by Mir Khand, Volume 1, Part 3, Page 144
Kitabul Wilayah, by Ibn Jarir al-Tabari
Al-Musannaf, by Ibn Abi Shaybah
Al-Musnad, by Abu Ya'ala
Hadith al-Wilayah, by Ahmad Ibn 'Uqdah
Tarikh, by Khateeb al-Baghdadi, Volume 8, Page 29 from Abu Huraira
Tarikh, by Khateeb al-Baghdadi, Volume 8, Page 596 from Abu Huraira



"Ata Ibn Yasar, who says that a certain person came to Aisha and began to use impudent and abusive words for Ali while Ammar, was in her presence. She said to him: "As regards Ali, I have nothing to tell you, but as regards Ammar, I have heard the Messenger of Allah saying about him that if he has to make a choice between two things he will always choose that which is better from the point of view of good guidance and salvation."

Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Volume 6, Page 113



The Prophet of Allah (saww) beckoned to Ali to come close. He came close until he sat between him and Aisha, and he and the Prophet (saww) were clung together. She said to him "Can you not find a seat for this one except on my thigh?" Ibn Abil Hadid also reported that one day the Prophet of Allah (saww) was walking with Imam Ali and the conversation became prolonged. Aisha approached as she was walking from behind until she came between them saying: "What is it between you two that you are taking so long?" Upon this the Prophet of Allah (saww) became angry.

Sharh Ibn Abil Hadid, Volume 9, Page 195



Abu Bakr once came to the Prophet of Allah (saww), and sought permission to enter. Before he went in, he heard Aisha's voice raised, saying to the Prophet (saww): "By Allah! I surely know that Ali is dearer to you than me and my father", she repeated this twice or three times".

Musnad Ahmad Hanbal, Volume 4, Page 275


*When Aisha heard of the assassination of Imam Ali (as), she knelt and thanked Allah!!! See History of al-Tabari and the History of Ibn al-Athir on the events of the year 40 AH. She did the same when she heard his wife Fatima Al-Zahra (as) had died from the attack of Umar. She was also involved in intercepting the funeral procession of al-Hassan, the leader of the Heaven's youth, by ordering her followers to shoot arrows on his coffin and she had shot an arrow herself from close range and she also prevented his burial beside his grandfather (the Prophet (saww)), and she said: "Do not let anybody that I don't like enter my house."



Narrated Abu Huraira Ad-Dausi: Once the Prophet went out during the day. Neither did he talk to me nor I to him till he reached the market of Bani Qainuqa and then he sat in the compound of Fatima's house and asked about the small boy (his grandson Al-Hassan) but Fatima kept the boy in for a while. I thought she was either changing his clothes or giving the boy a bath. After a while the boy came out running and the Prophet embraced and kissed him and then said, 'O Allah! Love him, and love whoever loves him.'

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 333
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 57, Number 90-92
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 772


*Ali (as) also thought bad of Abu Bakr and Umar:

...They said: Yes. Then he adjured Abbas and 'All as he had adjured the other persons and asked: Do you both know this? They said: Yes. He said: When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) passed away, Abu Bakr said: "I am the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)." Both of you came to demand your shares from the property (left behind by the Messenger of Allah). (Referring to Hadrat 'Abbas), he said: You demanded your share from the property of your nephew, and he (referring to 'Ali) demanded a share on behalf of his wife from the property of her father. Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said: "We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity." So both of you thought him to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest. And Allah knows that he was true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth. When Abu Bakr passed away and (I have become) the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him), you thought me to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest....

Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4349-4350


*Sunni scholars will reply to their own hadith by saying Ali (as) named three of his sons, Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman. This is true but we will ridicule this logic. First Abu Bakr is a kunya, a kind of nickname meaning the father of Bakr so this just shows the scholars who don’t speak Arabic don’t speak Arabic. For the case of Umar and Uthman, was there only one Umar and one Uthman? Their names were widely used, their names weren’t like Hussein which was given by Gabriel (as) to Muhammad (saww) to name the son of Ali (as) after Ali (as) wanted the prophet (saww) to name Hussein (as), a name never used before. One of the governors put in position by Ali (as) had the name Uthman so Ali (as) had loyal companions called Umar and Uthman. Furthermore, Ali (as) said he did not call one of his sons Uthman after the tyrant Uthman, however this is from a Shia hadith so you can choose to ignore it even though we have proved Uthman was a tyrant. Many Sunni hadiths are found in Shia books by the way, only the lies and fabrications are not included. In final, Ali (as) did not name his sons after the three tyrants, nor did the three tyrants name their sons Ali.

Ali (as) is not childish like Muawiya (la) who would curse Ali (as) and encourage people to ridicule anyone with the name Ali so much so people would name their sons Ali just to curse them. One should hate one’s deeds and not his appearance or name. For example, I hate Muhammad Ibn AbdulWahhab (la), the founder of the terrorist sect Wahhabism named after the founder. However that does not mean I will never name my son Muhammad, the name of the last prophet (saww), or AbdulWahhab, Al-Wahhab being one of the names of Allah (SWT). So if someone is your enemy, it doesn’t mean you hold a grudge against their name and curse anyone with that name like Muawiya (la). It can still be said; why did the prophet (saww) marry two of his daughter to Uthman, why did Lut (as) offer his daughter to the unbelievers?




The prophet (saww) said: "Allah have mercy on Ali. Allah make the right and truth with Ali in all situations".

Sunan al Tirmidhi, Volume 5, Page 297



The Prophet told Ali : "You shall inform my nation about the truth and what they dispute after me."

Kanzul Ummal, by Ali Muttaqi al Hind, Volume 2, Page 612 (Korab Dhieri, Multan)
Al Mustadrak al Hakim, Volume 3, Page 122





This was to prove the greatness of Ali (as), please reply to this and the intercessing Shias do, then I will move on to another topic being misconceptions of Shia and then after that I will move on to Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Aisha. I don't curse them in my work as I know you love them too much.

Great I don't see a problem with it then. Glad it's solved but: I'll still stay a Muslim. The various sects (Sunni, Shi'a Sufi, etc.) are all non Muslims based on a politico-religious ideology

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SUNNI-SHIA DEBATE! / Re: Created on February 1, 2013.
« on: February 01, 2013, 09:11:02 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

I have just created this section today, on February 1, 2013.  I will dedicated this section to a detailed and civilized discussion with the Shias.  I keep running into them every now and then, and it's time to bring all of the arguments here to settle this issue before everyone.

As always, I ask everyone to be respectful and civilized.  This is not a place to abuse anyone.  I won't allow abusing any individual just becasue he/she is a Shia or belong to any other group.  My argument is simply this:  Shias are NOT Muslims!  They are polytheists!  Their religion is far from the mainstream Islam that Muslims grew up with.  That's simply all there is to it.  I am not trying to bring politics into this.  I invite all Shias to come here and refute this.

Having said all of that, let me begin by presenting the following video that contains ample clips about the Shias' polythiesm and blasphemies:  http://www.answering-christianity.com/shias_kufr_exposed.wmv.  It's in Arabic.  Part 1 in English is in the post below.  I'll get it all translated in English soon, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Omg...Shi'as are kufr because they believe in another successor-different opinion! BLASPHEMY!

Seriously dude, I've studied these sects. They are not polytheists, it's all political. Meanwhile, the star spangled banner is rubbing its hands and laughing at our stupidity while we stand divided.

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You cant spread mischeif in the land :P

planting Marijuana is an act of kindness, not mischief.

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It must not be, unless you can show me a Qur'anic verse which specifically states you can't plant Marijuana in your bully's backyard.

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He wrote: "You donate to Allah Almighty alone, and not to me", then he wrote "Please put as little as possible" in the amount. Is he implying we should be as stingy as possible when donating to Allah? :o

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Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Is music allowed?
« on: February 01, 2013, 10:31:44 AM »
Now , I'm not in good condition to read all that .

Oh no! I might die if I read a paragraph :/

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Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!"  But the man refused to strike the prophet.  Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me."  And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.  (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

yea... Noah's ark. In the Qur'an, only the people of the land who Noah preached to died in the flood. In the bible however...

There is absolutely no evidence the entire world was once submerged in water. Not only that, but Jesus wasn't the only one to die for our sins. Notably:

    Thulis of Egypt – 1700 B.C.

    Krishna of India – 1200 B.C.

    Crite of Chaldea – 1200 B.C.

    Atys of Phrygia – 1170 B.C.

    Tammuz of Syria – 1160 B.C.

    Hesus of the Celtic Druids – 834 B.C.

    Indra of Tibet – 725 B.C.

    Bali of Orissa – 725 B.C.

    IAO of Nepal – 622 B.C.

    Sakia of the Hindus – 600 B.C.

    Alcestos of Euripides – 600 B.C.

    Mithra of Persia – 600 B.C.

    Quetzalcoatl of Mexico – 587 B.C.

    Wittoba of the Telingonesh – 552 B.C.

    Prometheus of Caucasus – 547 B.C.

    Quirinus of Rome – 506 B.C.

Bolded are those that still have religion today.

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Send money in Jesus' name please!


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Hi adnaanshaikh195,

We love God the Father as chose to give us his only begotten Son so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

Loving Jesus and accepting him is exactly the same as accepting God the Father. The verse below shows that whoever accepts Jesus is accepting God:
John 13:20 - Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”
Also, God wants us to listen to Jesus:
Mathew 17:5 - He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son,[a] with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.”
Hebrews 12:24
24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant between us and God. He shed his blood so that we may be rid of our sins. These are some of the points of the new covenant:

John 3:5-6
5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.[a]
Mark 16:16
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Acts 4:10-12
10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus[a] is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men[c] by which we must be saved.”

These verses show that Jesus is the only saviour. There is no salvation in any other name. Jesus himself says that you cannot go to the Father unless you go through Jesus.

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

God bless you. I hope this has answered your question. Jesus has loved us and he laid down his life for us so that we may live. He did the will Father. As Christians, we love Jesus and God the Father. If you have any further comments/questions, please feel free to reply.

WRONG!!! It's because you were born into filthy indoctrination. You didn't choose this. It's because you were born into the post Constantine's (evil Roman warlord) empire. Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant between us and God. "
He shed his blood so that we may be rid of our sins."
It's a meaningless sacrifice if I wasn't even born back then. The Sun was considered to be the only begotten Son of God, in Greek: Hueios and Helios, Sun and Son. Sol Invictus, the unconquered Sun, celebrated on Dec. 25.

"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned"
Baptism isn't new to Christianity. Oh and btw, The Sun was 'baptized' by Aquarius, the water bearer, in January. Most Christian sects celebrate the "baptism of Jesus" in January, the Aquarius constellation is in January! Oh and, do aborted babies go to hell according to that verse?

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sixteen crucified saviors identical to Jesus Christ

    Thulis of Egypt – 1700 B.C.

    Chrishna of India – 1200 B.C.

    Crite of Chaldea – 1200 B.C.

    Atys of Phrygia – 1170 B.C.

    Tammuz of Syria – 1160 B.C.

    Hesus of the Celtic Druids – 834 B.C.

    Indra of Tibet – 725 B.C.

    Bali of Orissa – 725 B.C.

    IAO of Nepal – 622 B.C.

    Sakia of the Hindus – 600 B.C.

    Alcestos of Euripides – 600 B.C.

    Mithra of Persia – 600 B.C.

    Quetzalcoatl of Mexico – 587 B.C.

    Wittoba of the Telingonesh – 552 B.C.

    Prometheus of Caucasus – 547 B.C.

    Quirinus of Rome – 506 B.C.

All sixteen were born of a virgin mother, and were all born on December 25th.

All sixteen were involved with prophecies, and stars pointing out the time and place of their births.

All sixteen were crucified on either a cross or a tree, and were resurrected three days later.

All sixteen were considered to be the saviors of their people.

All sixteen had angels, shepherds, and magi (magicians) present at their births, or shortly after.

All sixteen were described by using words related to light.

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