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nothing is special about godlessism.
« on: April 04, 2014, 09:14:51 AM »
peace my brothers

so i was watching as usual some anti-religion videos and this is what i learned about godlessism

1- they have their own leaders like preists including a high preist, richard dorkins and his minions
2- they say that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
3- they have their own version of how everything came to be
4- they try to give proofs to their belifes
5- they preach their belife and try to convert people to it
6- they have the most booring version of the afterlife
7-they hate every belife.
8- they invite people with promises of freedom but they dont know that every belife does the same thing
9- they have many types(like sects)
10- they have infighting between them and they debate each other
11_ they seem to think that christianity is the only religuion out there and that god is an old wizard lol
12- they seem to think that adam and eve ( peace be upon them) were white and they were in naked in the garden
13- they seem to have never touched the qur'an yet they talk about it as they were experts
14- they seem to be mostly americans, wich explains many things about them.
15- they seem to talk in an unatural manner
16- they seem to think that godless states have no crimes but they forget that the entire islamic world has no crimes too
17- they seem to think that if we find aliens then all religions will be destroyed, christianity might be.
18-they seemto try to turn people from religion by saying that religion teches racism,war,violance, and they hide what there leaders have done in ww2
19- they seem to think that the carsent moon with the star is the symbol of islam and they try to say that this is an ancient pagan symbol lol.
20-they are pathatic
21- they think that scince belongs to them
22- they seem to love every none abrahamic religion.
23- they seem to think that god is like zeus or whatever
24- they try to destroy religion by telling the fantasy tale of the tower of babylon, but they dont know that tale is in the bible only.
25- they have weird names
26-they look unusual,i am not kidding their faces is somewhat animalistic.
27- they dont know that half of their theories and belife came from religions
28-they love sci fi
29- they have their own book of athourity but they wll never talk about it, the origin of the speceas by charles dorkwin
 and thats about all i learned from their godless talk, in the end if you have somthing more about about them, feel free to write it for these creatures are the enemy in the shadow.

" only animals dont have religions and thats a fact"
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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 03:49:22 PM »
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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 06:05:58 AM »
i know that but i i said it according to godlessism

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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 08:30:56 AM »
peace my brothers

so i was watching as usual some anti-religion videos and this is what i learned about godlessism

8- they invite people with promises of freedom but they dont know that every belife does the same thing16- they seem to think that godless states have no crimes but they forget that the entire islamic world has no crimes too
I agree with you akhi  and I want to comment on these 2 points. 1. Athiest never think of Freedom they are slave of Science. they want to impose thier belief to everyone . Once I ask an athiest that why do you believe that u r right? he replied that because i believe in science then i ask why do you think that science is true? then he remained silent. this clearly shows that Athiests are slave of science. and moreover they want to impose thier on others by usings arguments like believe in evolution or remain uneducated, or Did man is a mistake of God or God is a mistake of man etc... this is not freedom. 2. From my thinking Godless states never be crimeless because it is the absence of fear of God in our hearts that make us to commit crime. and you are right that islamic world has less crime but Godless states can never be crimeless.

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 03:45:23 AM »
Thanks for replying Akhi. but you get me wrong. By saying slaves of science i mean that they believe that science can never be wrong. For Example- at first scientists believe that universe is from a infinite time! but after big bang theory it proved wrong

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 04:29:04 AM »

To impose your belief to someone is wrong, but to try and convince him, there is no problem. If you think something is right, don't you want all people to believe in it? As a Muslim, if you think that by believing and worshipping Allah you won't enter hell and you will be forever in paradise, don't you want other people to be Muslims?
I hate the fact that science is viewed as synonymous with atheism, so stop saying atheists are slaves of science. Atheists are simply ungrateful, arrogant, stupid and  people who follow their desires and who don't think about what Allah has created. Just because an Atheist is a scientist, it doesn't mean Atheism is right. We Muslims were scientists for centuries. Allah has given human beings the ability to become experts in whatever field. If you play football, you will become a good footballer even if you are an Atheist.

He might have easily answer 'because in science we have evidence for our beliefs', so this is not the way to discuss with Atheists. We Muslims have the strongest proofs for our religion. You just have to read. So dear brother, please stop discussing with them, it might make you have doubts on Islam if you are not knowledgeable.




1.Brother you are right that science =/= Athiesm but i think that sciencism = Athiesm because if you ask an athiest that why do you do not follow any religion? he/she might answers some what like this because science can explain every thing more logically than myths of religion. this proves that he is a blind believer in science. 2. Right he may answer it like your example but i ask this question to him when we were discussing Athiesm : Rational or Irrational. i have give him a lot of expamles of the flaws of science. so he remain silent . And i have proved many things to athiests but at last they come with a strange thing known as EVOLUTION. Just it remains a unconclusive topic.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2014, 05:12:15 AM »
I apologize for any misunderstanding. I think they have a reason to believe like that because science brings answers based on evidence and observation. I'm with them, except when it comes to 'does God exist?' question. God is something beyond empirical evidence. In fact, it won't have any value if God is observable. Believing in a God you can see has no value; in the Day of the Judgement every human being, including Atheists, will believe i God, but that won't save them from hell. If someone doesn't believe in God by pondering about the creation, nature etc. he deserves to be in hell because he is extremely arrogant and undoubtedly a follower of his desires. SubhanAllah, it is enough to see how our body is made in order to believe in God.
Thanks for replying. Brother i dont think that you need to apologize. I respect and accept your beliefs. But i accept science not scientism. and most of Athiest does not try to convince rather than they try to impose their beliefs by using arguments like You are brain dead you will not understand Evolution, Understand Evolution or remain Uneducated. from my thinking this is not a way of convincing. Thanks

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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2014, 07:11:03 AM »
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11_ they seem to think that christianity is the only religuion out there and that god is an old wizard lol
I think it would be more accurate to say that becaue they rejected Christianity , they think with their ignorance that EVERY religion is exactly the same . And what's worse is that they talk as they know while they are - mostly - more ignorant than their shoes when it comes to Islam and maybe to Christianity itself .

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12- they seem to think that adam and eve were white and they were in naked in the garden
Adam who ? Eve who ? Are they your pals at school ? Again , we should address the prophets of Allah saying peace upon them . It's really irritating when you address a disbeliever - even the filthy foul mouthed ones - with "Sir" and "Mr" while you're too lazy to write "Peace upon him" and instead write it in short as "PBUH" .
Aside from that , this is the story of the Bible and I wouldn't dare say an opinion without a sign from Quran or Sunnah .

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14- they seem to be mostly americans, wich explains many things about them.
Wat ? No seriously , there are Atheists - with all their sects - around the whole world . Their percentage differs though from place to place . But yeah , there seems to be something else about the American ones .

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16- they seem to think that godless states have no crimes but they forget that the entire islamic world has no crimes too
Every place on the world has bad people who do bad things . Still , the Islamic world - even though there isn't a single country ruling with full Sharia - has the least of them in any field . And please , before someone rants about what's happening in Iraq , Egypt , and other such countries . They either raise in crimes AFTER a bloody invading country invades , raise because of secular ways and materialism , or because the governemnt - like Egypt - is a slave dog of the Jews of Israel and USA . That bastard C.C said he gives daily reports to the white house ON NEWS . And whoever tries to deny that Islamic countries are the least in negative statics is in for embarrassment as a quick Google search can prove it .

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17- they seem to think that if we find aliens then all religions will be destroyed, christianity might be.
Organic non intelligent life forms were found as I heard . And let's suppose we do find them , where did they come from ? And whoever tries to throw the farce of evolution through "accidents" is telling a lame joke .

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19- they seem to think that the carsent moon with the star is the symbol of islam and they try to say that this is an ancient pagan symbol lol.
Whoever thinks that the moon is the symbol of Islam - even if Muslim - is ignorant . Aside from the whole thing of Ottomans - see the flag of Turkey - have not these people read this sign at all ? :
Fussilat 37 : And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship.

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21- they think that scince belongs to them
And they even worship it . When I told someone that science can only explain "how" material things work and that it can't go beyond that to explain the mind , soul , and emotions , he said "Yes it is , and researches are still going" ! It's actually sickening ! They keep ranting about science and research and believe that this "Research" can NEVER go wrong or be used for personal gain even though history testifies .
Science is a fragment of "Konwledge" . Knowledge is NOT a fragment of science . If you try to explain to your wife why you bought her flowers in "sin and cos" you'll get a quick slap on the face .

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22- they seem to love every none abrahamic religion.
Because their reason to reject religion is the bad idea they have about Christianity and Judaism . But if it's about worshiping animals or people or even saying that God is creation and creation is God , then they are welcomed to them !

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23- they seem to think that god is like zeus or whatever
If only I had a dollar whenever someone says "If we agree that there is a God , which one is it ? Odin , Zeus , or Buddha ?" I would have been a billionair by now (Of course that's sarcasm) . They're so ignorant as to think that in Islam , Allah is a guy sitting on a chair in the sky , chooses people with hideous crimes as prophets - Source : Bible - and seemingly tires and rests and eat food .

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24- they try to destroy religion by telling the fantasy tale of the tower of babylon, but they dont know that tale is in the bible only.
Babylon what ?

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28-they love sci fi
You don't say ! Aleins , time travel , multiple universes , and cloning - which fails miseraly so far - .

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" only animals dont have religions and thats a fact"
Not . Everything praises Allah even if we don't understand them .

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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2014, 07:21:28 AM »
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11_ they seem to think that christianity is the only religuion out there and that god is an old wizard lol
I think it would be more accurate to say that becaue they rejected Christianity , they think with their ignorance that EVERY religion is exactly the same . And what's worse is that they talk as they know while they are - mostly - more ignorant than their shoes when it comes to Islam and maybe to Christianity itself .

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12- they seem to think that adam and eve were white and they were in naked in the garden
Adam who ? Eve who ? Are they your pals at school ? Again , we should address the prophets of Allah saying peace upon them . It's really irritating when you address a disbeliever - even the filthy foul mouthed ones - with "Sir" and "Mr" while you're too lazy to write "Peace upon him" and instead write it in short as "PBUH" .
Aside from that , this is the story of the Bible and I wouldn't dare say an opinion without a sign from Quran or Sunnah .

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14- they seem to be mostly americans, wich explains many things about them.
Wat ? No seriously , there are Atheists - with all their sects - around the whole world . Their percentage differs though from place to place . But yeah , there seems to be something else about the American ones .

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16- they seem to think that godless states have no crimes but they forget that the entire islamic world has no crimes too
Every place on the world has bad people who do bad things . Still , the Islamic world - even though there isn't a single country ruling with full Sharia - has the least of them in any field . And please , before someone rants about what's happening in Iraq , Egypt , and other such countries . They either raise in crimes AFTER a bloody invading country invades , raise because of secular ways and materialism , or because the governemnt - like Egypt - is a slave dog of the Jews of Israel and USA . That bastard C.C said he gives daily reports to the white house ON NEWS . And whoever tries to deny that Islamic countries are the least in negative statics is in for embarrassment as a quick Google search can prove it .

Quote
17- they seem to think that if we find aliens then all religions will be destroyed, christianity might be.
Organic non intelligent life forms were found as I heard . And let's suppose we do find them , where did they come from ? And whoever tries to throw the farce of evolution through "accidents" is telling a lame joke .

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19- they seem to think that the carsent moon with the star is the symbol of islam and they try to say that this is an ancient pagan symbol lol.
Whoever thinks that the moon is the symbol of Islam - even if Muslim - is ignorant . Aside from the whole thing of Ottomans - see the flag of Turkey - have not these people read this sign at all ? :
Fussilat 37 : And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship.

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21- they think that scince belongs to them
And they even worship it . When I told someone that science can only explain "how" material things work and that it can't go beyond that to explain the mind , soul , and emotions , he said "Yes it is , and researches are still going" ! It's actually sickening ! They keep ranting about science and research and believe that this "Research" can NEVER go wrong or be used for personal gain even though history testifies .
Science is a fragment of "Konwledge" . Knowledge is NOT a fragment of science . If you try to explain to your wife why you bought her flowers in "sin and cos" you'll get a quick slap on the face .

Quote
22- they seem to love every none abrahamic religion.
Because their reason to reject religion is the bad idea they have about Christianity and Judaism . But if it's about worshiping animals or people or even saying that God is creation and creation is God , then they are welcomed to them !

Quote
23- they seem to think that god is like zeus or whatever
If only I had a dollar whenever someone says "If we agree that there is a God , which one is it ? Odin , Zeus , or Buddha ?" I would have been a billionair by now (Of course that's sarcasm) . They're so ignorant as to think that in Islam , Allah is a guy sitting on a chair in the sky , chooses people with hideous crimes as prophets - Source : Bible - and seemingly tires and rests and eat food .

Quote
24- they try to destroy religion by telling the fantasy tale of the tower of babylon, but they dont know that tale is in the bible only.
Babylon what ?

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28-they love sci fi
You don't say ! Aleins , time travel , multiple universes , and cloning - which fails miseraly so far - .

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" only animals dont have religions and thats a fact"
Not . Everything praises Allah even if we don't understand them .

thanks for the reply brother, as for the tower of babylon, this is a story in the bible about th babylonians trying to build a tower that can reach god and that god was scared that they might reach him and he cursed the builders with diffrent languges and they couldnt finish the tower. so languge is a curse lol.

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Re: nothing is special about godlessism.
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2014, 08:53:46 AM »
some godless people even say that religion dvides people, but wait

naturalism
humanism
comunism
evolution
anceint austronat ?
matrix belivers
agnostics ( do they count ?)

dont thye act like godless sects ?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 09:43:13 AM by gandalf the white »

 

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