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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Clearfication on a hadith
« on: March 25, 2013, 03:40:01 PM »
Dear brother egyptian
How about the hadith is musnad ahmed that says:
"Is it Assabiyyah for a man to love his people?, and he (PBUH) said: 'No, tribalism is to support your people in an injust cause."

It is always referenced by (relianble) Islamic scholars that say that love for ones race is Good, but as long as you are not racist and blindly follow them because of what they are, thats Facism and Nazism

Can you please give me the number of the hadith as tell me if its week or not.
Thanks for the (good) hadith that tells us that supporting youtr people in injustice is asabiyyah, but not nationalism, however that hadith is in "al adaab a sharia" not Musnab Ahmed, and i find musnad ahmed more reliable.

Dear Tanveer
Nationalism is love of your people, ethnicity, race, etc. Nothing wrong with that
Patriotism is love for ones country, state, etc. Again, nothing worng
Asabiyyah IS NOT nationalism, it is extreme nationalism similar to fasicism, and racism, think of Hitler.

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: How is paper money haram?
« on: March 24, 2013, 06:39:13 PM »
its not
remember dinar was orginally Roman (dinarii)
dont listen to literalist wahhabis, have your own interpretation of moderation

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Clearfication on a hadith
« on: March 24, 2013, 03:05:41 PM »
I have 2 questions for you
I have come across hadiths that supports my theory that "asabiyyah", is blind patriotism extreme nationlism, not just love for ones country (patriotism) and race (nationalism).

A woman called Fusayla said that she heard her father say, "I asked, 'Messenger of Allah, is it part of disobedience for a man to help his people in something which is unjust?' 'Yes,' he replied."

حَدَّثَنَا زَكَرِيَّا، قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَنَا الْحَكَمُ بْنُ الْمُبَارَكِ، قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَنَا زِيَادُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِ قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَنِي عَبَّادٌ الرَّمْلِيُّ قَالَ‏:‏ حَدَّثَتْنِي امْرَأَةٌ يُقَالُ لَهَا‏:‏ فُسَيْلَةُ، قَالَتْ‏:‏ سَمِعْتُ أَبِي يَقُولُ‏:‏ قُلْتُ‏:‏ يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، أَمِنَ الْعَصَبِيَّةِ أَنْ يُعِينَ الرَّجُلُ قَوْمَهُ عَلَى ظُلْمٍ‏؟‏ قَالَ‏:‏ نَعَمْ‏.‏

Reference    : Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 396
In-book reference    : Book 21, Hadith 12

and heres another

Narrated Wathilah ibn al-Asqa':
I asked: Messenger of Allah! what is party spirit? He replied: That you should help your people in wrongdoing.

حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ الدِّمَشْقِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا الْفِرْيَابِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا سَلَمَةُ بْنُ بِشْرٍ الدِّمَشْقِيُّ، عَنْ بِنْتِ وَاثِلَةَ بْنِ الأَسْقَعِ، أَنَّهَا سَمِعَتْ أَبَاهَا، يَقُولُ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ مَا الْعَصَبِيَّةُ قَالَ ‏ "‏ أَنْ تُعِينَ قَوْمَكَ عَلَى الظُّلْمِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Reference    : Sunan Abi Dawud 5119
In-book reference    : Book 43, Hadith 347
English translation    : Book 42, Hadith 5100

Hoowever both these hadiths are considered weak by Al-Albani. Can someone give me the reason why its weak, and what Al Albani said on it.
Also, there is a third hadith in Musnad Ahmad of similar wording, but i cant find its exact location, and scholars reference this one the most, can you please give it to me. Also is it a authentic, weak, good, etc.

« on: March 21, 2013, 08:10:49 AM »
that article is one for islam
im talking about one that proves the existance of a higher power
that shows us that the life we are in is impossible without a higher power
such as the big bang one i showed you

« on: March 18, 2013, 02:45:29 PM »
My friends, I have made a list of all the sites that have exellent rebuttals to the anti-Islamic claims, please can you add to it, thanks.
also, some of them are not working, and i have used these ones more than others by a lot, if someone knows why they were taken down, please tell me (I could have just gotten the URL wrong though). I noticed that many of the good resources are getting taken down, it was not that long ago when they were all working.     (not Working)          (Not working)                    (Not working)                   (Not working)                          (Not working)                      

My fellow muslims, if we are to save these knowledge we have to use resources other than the internet (The internet is a priority though), but so is debating, prosylizing, and writing, books. We also need to save these knowledge, it wont take you 1 minute to copy and paste a good article into a word document, maybe a few more to print it.

So what can we do to stregthen or bodies and/or lose weight

But the wahhabis were always part of Saudi Society, The first Saudi state was made by an alliance of Saudi ruler, Muhammad Bin Saud, and the founder of Wahabbism Muhammad bin Abdulawahab. His decended founded modern KSA. And although I praise some members of the Royal family, even our current king Abdullah is actually pretty good, i think the society needs to lessen the control over the people, and give more human rights, such as religious freedom and less censorship, probably more democracy and the allowing of political parties, although i can hold a meeting with a emember of the family and we can discuss problems, i cant go the street and protest, that has to cange. Peace

but the government is filled with extermist wahhabis. Saudi should be a home to the arabs, but a safe haven and pilgrimagae destination for all muslims.
I dont think they should lead the ummah because that it would be lead by Arabs only.

« on: March 10, 2013, 01:40:12 PM »
I have read many articles to show gods existance, I dont mean a christian/muslim god, but a presence of a higher power. I though they were great, but i seem to have lost them, plus, I have forgetten many of the information that i recieved, i oly clearly remember one about the big bang, how it could not have been possible without some external force (Not exactly but i dont want to get into detail), but thats about it, can you give me evidence and some good articles  ( I like these better because i can save the links in my stash). Thanks

Well, KSA should be kind to the whole community, since they hold mecca and medina for pilgrimage, yet its inhabitants are arabs, such as the people of france are french.

its not true, at least for my family and friends, i have never heard of this.
God willing, Saudi will get better for the better of its people, the arabs.
peace bro

Ataturk was NOT jew, he was either muslim or cultural muslim/agnostic, but not jew. He killed and pushed out thr foreigners: Greeks, Armenians, French, Italian, and British who were occuping turkish lands. I believe that saddam should have been stopped when he invaded IRAN, before kuwait, so im with you on that, however, they didn't didn't give him the "blessing", the internationalcommuniy merely claimed that they wont be invovlved in Arab-Arab trade deals, even though the stressed the peace and stability in the ME. As for the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, it was brutal, my fathers family moved from Kuwait to KSA because of that, the told us about the occupation and how brutal saddam was one was even executed, also, one missile hit a place where my mother waas living, although alhamdullilah that she lived, saddam NEEDED to be driven out of kuwait and ousted from power, thaks to the coalition of 1991, they accomplished the first goal. The coalition of 2003 thoguh was horrible and not rightful, i ask now, [censored] ARE THE SO CALLED "WEAPONS" BUSH? Also if they were going to get rid of the dictator, THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE SO IN 1990 (ivasion of Kuwait) if no 1981 (invasion of iran), then the should have condemned him as a dictator, but only after they got in his nerves then they decided to get rid of him, shame on them.
Although i was against the foreign ontervention in Libya, definetly I was against gaddafi and supported the revolution to overthrow him.
The House of suad's first ansestor was Mani' ibn Rabiah Al-Muraydi, who a diriyan muslim, and even at some point his were jews, it doesn't matter for 2 reasons, first our ancestors were of author beliefs before islam, (Mine were zoroastrian, pagan, christian, and jews), the second is that islam cancels every previous beliefs you had, we see them as muslims not as ex-jews, christians etc. In addition KSA seems to be getting better, thanks to our better than average king Abdullah, although it needs MUCH more imprvement,
Although the iraqi soldiers in 1991 were conscripts, it is saddam who should take the blame not the kuwaiti-saudi-coalition forces who fought to liberate kuwait, but to the dictator who sent them to their deaths.

Personally I believe Saddam should have fallen to a revolution by his on people, similar to Ben Ali, Mubarak, and Gaddafi.
I as I said, the royal families are not my favorite, by i would name them non-muslims, thats called Takfir, it is haram.
As for Ataturk
Also remember that the ottoman empire in its last day was already a secular monarchy, ataturk just made it democratic.

Just for the record, Donmrh are crypto jews who lived in turkey and hid their beliefs from fear of persecution. Although there is little love between us, i dont think the house of saud are "crypto jews".

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