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In the Bible / Re: Marrying your children???
« on: September 16, 2012, 05:54:58 PM »
On your site, on the page,, you state:

"The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!"

And you reference Leviticus 20:21 to support your bold assertion,

If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity;
he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.
(Lev 20:21)

But this says nothing about parents marrying children.  So where do you get the idea that the Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows parents to marry their children?

Peace be upon you Laloumen,

Welcome to the board.  Let us read the verse in question again:

If a man marries has sex with his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity;
he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.

(Leviticus 20:21)

In the article,, I discussed the following possible meanings for "They will be childless":

1-  Either this is a false man-made scientific statement, like many of the false scientific statements, in the Bible, where they it says that it is biologically and physiologically impossible for the man and the woman in this case to impregnate the woman and have a child.  Visit:

2-  Or GOD Almighty in this verse rejects or invalidates the parent-child relationship in this situation if it were to happen.

3-  Or it is a false man-made "prophecy" and lie on GOD Almighty's Holy Mouth by giving a promise that the man and the woman will become physiologically barren, - unable to ever produce children ever again, - whether with each others or seperate with other people.

If interpretation or meaning #2 is valid, then this means that nothing on earth could stop the biological father from marrying his biological daughter, or for the biological mother to marry her biological son - should she divorce or become a widow.

You have sinned.  But, to make things very simple, forgiveness is not possible in Islam

I have neither sinned, nor is your knowledge about Islam correct.  Go read the Glorious Quran and see the 100s of Noble Verses that speak about GOD Almighty's Forgiveness and Mercy.  Visit:

You need a Savior!  You need to turn from your sin to the Lord, because in Him there is forgiveness, through His death on the cross on your behalf.  In this way, God is both merciful and just.

Watch Dr. Zakir Naik's debate with Pastor Rukni on "Did Jesus Christ ACTUALLY DIE on the cross?".  Dr. Zakir thoroughly demonstrated and proved from the Bible's New Testament that Christ never died on the cross, nor was he ever resurrected.  In fact, the word resurrected was never even mentioned in the NT.  It says Jesus was raised, which means he never died.  Watch the debate and see all of the NT verses that Dr. Zakir Naik gave that thoroughly demonstrated and proved this:

But, if you persist in rejecting Jesus Christ, you reject the only way of salvation.  And God will not forgive your sins and there is nothing you can do to earn His forgiveness.  In rejecting the only way of salvation, you reject salvation and condemn yourself to an eternity in hell.

I am afraid you're the one who rejects GOD Almighty and His servant and creation and Prophet and Messenger, Jesus Christ, with your idol worship of Jesus and polytheism.  Visit:

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

So Islam doesn't believe that John was Elija reincarnate?

What about the natural cycle of life and death? What about viruses that die then reproduce themselves? What about the fact that we turn into soil and that soil feeds plants and those plants feed people? So we literally evolve physically from one state of life to another.

As'salamu Alaikum sister in Islam,

No, we do not believe that John the Baptist (Yahya, peace be upon him) was Elija reincarnate.  The Bible's New Testament also doesn't say what you said above either.

Now as to evolution, I am afraid you have it all misunderstood.  Evolution isn't feeding your dead body as nutritients to soil, so in return the soil can feed it to plants, and in turn other humans eat it.  This is a life and death life cycle, and the Glorious Quran talked about it.  Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran that He brings the dead from the living and brings the living from the dead.  Visit:

Also, visit:, and go to Main Section #1.

Now in regards to evolution, there is a difference between our bodies going through changes but keeping their main human properties preserved, and the claim that we were fish or monkies and then evolved into more intelligent animals.  Islam 100% agrees with the first statement that I mentioned, which is that our bodies went through changes, but kept their human properties preserved.  We weren't animals and evolved into humans.  Our sizes used to be much greater than what they are now.  Both Islam and Science have claimed this and proven this, respectively.  Please visit: (Because of the increase in earth's size, and the increase in its gravity as a result, our sizes decreased as a result of the gravity increase).

There are many proofs for the changes in our sizes.  A personal example for you and me is the removal of the wisdom teeth.  Our Jaws used to be bigger and broader than what they are now, and there was enough realestate for all of the teeth to grow in it.  But today, since our bodies are decreasing in size, our jaws also decreased, and as a result, our teeth became over crowded.  This is why many people end up removing their wisdom teeth, because the over crowding of the teeth causes pain on the teeths' nerves.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

A woman is like a mother to us when she breast-feeds us, because her milk becomes part of our bodies. This is according to islamic thinking. So, based on that premise, I have this question: are cows like mothers to us if we drink their milk, because their milk becomes part of our bodies?

Cows are animals.  We are humans.  They do not become our foster mothers.  And according to the Glorious Quran, the maximum age for breast feeding is up to two years old.  See the following articles:  (A Scientific Miracle about the formation of milk in cattle)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Now let's see if there is any muslim who can answer my question in the first thread that I started...

I already answered it in the post where I talked about the 24,000 scroll fragments, above.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

A muslim man has 3 wives and children with all. Then he divorces one wife and gets custody of the children aged 10 and 11. He has a house with each wife. So now, do the children live alone in one house while the father is spending time with one of the other wives? Or does he ask one wife to look after the children? Or does he get someone to look after them? Or does he take them with him when he goes to visit the other wives? What are the rulings on a situation like this.

The husband doesn't always have to have a single seperate house for each wife.  I don't think this is a madatory rule, even though this is how the Prophet, peace be upon him, had it with his wives.  So to answer you question, it all depends on the way the relationship is between the husband and the wives, and the wives and the children of the other women.  They can make those arrangements.  And in all cases, he and everyone in the family must always be fair and just as much as they can:

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for God can best protect both..... (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"

"God doth command you to render back your Trusts to those to whom they are due; And when ye judge between man and man, that ye judge with justice: Verily how excellent is the teaching which He giveth you! For God is He Who heareth and seeth all things. (The Noble Quran, 4:58)"

".....Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear God: for God is strict in punishment. (The Noble Quran, 5:2)"

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear God. For God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 5:8 )"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8 )"

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Wouldn't it be sunnat for you to marry a 9-year-old? Don't sheiks and madressa teachers teach muslims to follow and try to imitate the prophet for great reward?

Very good question, sister Antiaparteid.  A "Sunna" is an action that the Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, have either done himself, or have spoken about.  The Sunna is not something that is mandatory to be followed in Islam.  It's almost always optional.  Furthermore, like I mentioned in the article, the marriage of the Prophet of Islam most likely happened before the Revelation of the Noble Verses that I mentioned in the article.

As to getting rewards for following the Sunna, only when it's not in conflict with the Glorious Quran.  There are Sunnas that were invalidated by the Glorious Quran.  An example of this is the divorce by Zihar (a man telling his wife you are to me like my mother).  This was the pagan Arabs' way of divorce before Islam.  During the early days of Islam, it was practiced, and the Prophet even approved it.  Latter, the Glorious Quran forbade it.

The Glorious Quran is really the Ultimate, sister.  The Sunna that agrees with the Glorious Quran is valid.  Otherwise, its law and/or practice had been invalidated.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.  As always, everyone is welcomed to share their views and opinions and criticisms.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

its not pro-ghafi that did it but the same people they've armed to revolt against ghadafi, the libyan government are just looking for a cover.

Why would the Libyan government do that?  What benefit will it bring to kill the US Embassador in their country, when he is living under their protection.  Look at the timing of the bombing.  Right after the 9/11 anniversary when the American nations' emotions are high?!  It has the zionists' finger prints all over it!  And it is no secret, by the way, that Israel declared it support to Gathafi during the war.  So it shouldn't surprise anyone that they now support the pro-gathafi thugs, and even have many mosad and other Israeli fighters injected in them.  After all, did not the libyans call for the expulsion of all Jews from Libya?  This means that the Libyan nation, like many of the Arab nations, has native Jews in it.  So it's very easy to inject mosads and spies among the pro-gathafi thugs.

Osama Abdallah

PLEASE POST THIS ON EVERY BLOG YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON!  You can remove my site below if you want.

Let's analyze some facts here:

1-  The film was released few days before the 9/11 anniversary.

2-  The film was made by an Israeli.

3-  The American Embassador to Libya, WHO IS A CHRISTIAN AMERICAN, gets blown away.

I smell a zionist-mosad conspiracy here.  The emotions were ALREADY HIGH on the 9/11 anniversary.  So let's explode it by killing the non-Jew embassador.  Get it?

9/11 was an inside job! WTC BUILDINGS FELL AT SIX SECONDS EACH! This
is a controlled demonlision FREE FALL WITH NO RESISTANCE. 9/11 was a
zionist inside job. Melted metal that was consistent with explosion
melting were found in all of the buildings' metal foundations after
the collapses. The buildings were also hit by REMOTE-CONTROLLED
airplanes from WTC 7. This is also why this building was brought down
by controlled demolision. The pentagon was also hit by a drone or
missile, and no airplane was found in the PA field. Muslims HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. PERIOD. It was the sub-humans who rule this
country that did it. The zionists are worse than satan himself!! Hell
is their final abode!


Some of the Glorious Quran's beautiful teachings:

".....Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not
one another in sin and rancour: fear God: for God is strict in
punishment.  (The Noble Quran, 5:2)"

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair
dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to
wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and
fear God. For God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.  (The Noble
Quran, 5:8 )"

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress
limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline
towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and
knoweth (all things).  (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with
those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you
out of your homes. God loves just dealers.  (The Noble Quran, 60:8 )"

"Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from
error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the
most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and
knoweth all things.  (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

The ones who did it were Pro Gathafi zionist thugs who wanted to create enmity between the NATO and the Libyan nation in Libya. Don't blame the entire nation for it! It was no more than a shoulder missile fired from a thug's shoulder into the embasy. The unfortunate happened. But don't blame the entire nation for it. The nation of Libya didn't do it. it wasn't a declaration of war, for instance. And the government of Libya apologized


Your most welcome, dear brother Egyptian.  I am sorry if it caused you trouble, dear brother.

Your brother in Islam,
Osama Abdallah

Peace be upon you Everyone,

Thank you Mokko for your post.  I wanted to add that Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran could have also meant that if the Jinns try to tresspass the forbidden boundaries in the Universe, then they will automatically get shot with the Stars' Rays (the shahab that is shot from the stars).  So in other words, the Rays are already in place and it's the Jinns that will run into them.  This is similar to an electric fence.  If one tries to climb it, or even touch it, then he'll get electrocuted.  Let's read the Noble Verse again in light of what I just said:

‏67:5 ولقد زينا السماء الدنيا بمصابيح وجعلناها رجوما للشياطين واعتدنا لهم عذاب السعير

[067:005]  And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Are you saying that any 9 year old girl can have the mental ability to be someone's wife. Marry was only 3 years older! Wow, that surely justifies an older man climbing into bed with a virgin. The difference between Mary and Aisha is that Mary didn't have her marriage consummated--she wasn't defiled by an older man.

Do you even know what the word "defile" means?  And did you know that the Bible uses it on men who "were not defiled by women"?  Visit:

Why are you considering marriage with young girls some sort of a sin and a defiling to them?  This has been going one for thousands and thousands of years before Islam and after Islam, and is still going on even today by Muslims and non-Muslims alike.  I myself wouldn't marry a 9-year old girl today, because our life is different, but my mother's grandmother, for example, was married at the age of 12, and she had well over 10 sons and daughters, and she lived till she reached 93 years old.  She lived a happy life with her many children, and also with her husband who passed away long before her.  They're both with GOD Almighty in Heaven now.  Also, both my grandmothers were married at very young ages.  My father's mother was married also at the age of 11 or 12, and she too had well over 10 sons and daughters.

Just because our world is different today, it doesn't mean that we have to spit on everything that people held from traditions and cultures before us.  This is both wrong and unfair.

I hope this answers your questions and concerns, sister in Islam.  May I suggest that you actually spend more time trying to understanding Islam, as a whole, rather than trying to nit pick things here and there?  Like I said above, our Prophet's marriage with 9-year old Aisha is not a Law nor a Rule.  We don't have to do it nor follow it.  Please don't judge the Glorious Quran by it.  The Glorious Quran made it abudantly clear that

4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the current life requires

Are not permitted to marry.

Read my article, which I listed above, at:

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

So it means that Islam believes in reincarnation?

As'salamu Alaikum sister in Islam,

No, in Islam, death only happens once to each person.  Please visit: to see the Noble Verses that claim this.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

assalamo alikum!
but it is referred to a phenomena which is seen as is referred to in an hadith as well as follows:

As we were sitting during the night with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), a meteor shot gave a dazzling light.  Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:  “What did you say in the pre-Islamic days when there was such a shot (of meteor)?”  They said:  “Allah and His Messenger know best (the actual position), but we, however, used to say that that very night a great man had been born and a great man had died,” whereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:  “(These meteors) are shot neither at the death of anyone nor on the birth of anyone.  Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, issues Command when He decides to do a thing.  Then (the Angels) supporting the Throne sing His glory, then sing the dwellers of heaven who are near to them until this glory of God reaches them who are in the heaven of this world.  Then those who are near the supporters of the Throne ask these supporters of the Throne:  ‘What your Lord has said?’ And they accordingly inform them what He says.  Then the dwellers of heaven seek information from them until this information reaches the heaven of this world.  In this process of transmission (the jinn snatches) what he manages to overhear and he carries it to his friends. And when the Angels see the jinn they attack them with meteors.”

But from the point of view of science cosmic rays and gamma rays phenomena cannot be seen from earth ?.. Kindly explain this to me brother, i am sure i must be wrong in that its just a matter of interpretation!..
All praise is due to Allah Alone!

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

The Glorious Quran is clear about the shooting Shahab is from the shining stars as I quoted the Holy Quran above.  I am not sure about the physical meteors.  Scientists have discovered that our solar system (our sun and its planets and moons) are encircled inside a ring of asteroids.  I am not sure how the physical rocks of the meteors would effect the invisible Jinns.  But again, Allah Almighty made it clear in the Glorious Quran that the shooting shahab that strikes the Jinns comes from the shining stars:

‏67:5 ولقد زينا السماء الدنيا بمصابيح وجعلناها رجوما للشياطين واعتدنا لهم عذاب السعير

[067:005]  And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

I hope this helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Peace be upon you Everyone,

In the past, I had a 4,000 character limitation on posts.  I initially put it to prevent people from posting big articles as replies.  But now I removed it.

Hope that helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

I didn't actually join this site to argue. I wanted a question to be answered. I posted it, but it still hasn't been answered. I think the reason is because islam doesn't have an answer to that question. So, while I was waiting for my question to be answered, I took the liberty of adding my two cents on a few other threads.

I'm a revert muslim woman. When i first confessed the 1st shahada, I knew that there were many aspects of islam that I would not agree on, such as: discrimination against left-handed people.

As'salamu Alaikum Sister in Islam,

What question did you post that wasn't answered here?  Please specify it.  I apologize for offending you in my previous reply above.  Please go ahead and post all of your questions.

As to adding your two cents to this thread, thank you for doing that, but please note that you just because the manuscripts were found by archeologists, it doesn't make those manuscripts Divine.  How many thousands of manuscripts of texts (scrolls) that were found that didn't make it into the Canon; the Constantine Bible of today?  The Christians claim that there are 24,000 fragments (scroll pieces here and there that contain writings) that were found, and most of them didn't make it into the NT's books and gospels, which start from the gospel of Matthew and end with the book of Revelation.

Furthermore, the Song of Songs book, is singing praises about sex between a boyfriend and a girlfriend.  It wasn't about Jehovah GOD singing a love story to the nation of Israel as you might have been told.  The proof is within the book itself.  Take this example of one of many praised pornographies:

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.  I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates.  His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."

If he were like her brother nursed from her mother's breasts??  Does Jehovah GOD have a mother?!  Does Jehovah GOD need to be a secret lover of a loose and ill-raised girl?  Does Jehovah need to be a brother of some girl so that it wouldn't be a scandal to bring him home to her bed to have sex with her?

What else beside X-Rated Pornography is this?  And what makes you think, Sister in Islam, that this is Divine Revelation from Jehovah Almighty?  It is nothing but a lie and a sick blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

There are ample more verses that I can provide here, but I don't want to rewrite what I already wrote in the link which I gave above.  Please visit it and fear no one.  The Bible is filled with man-made alterations, lies and fabrications.  It also MIGHT have close to Truth in it.  To us Muslims, what agrees with the Glorious Quran we take it, and what disagrees we don't take it.  Plain and simple.

They say that islam is the perfect religion, but I wonder why it hasn't produced a perfect ummat.

No human can be perfect my sister.  But still, the Muslims historically and consistently have always been the highest in:

1-  Being strict on chastity in their societies.
2-  Worshiping and Prostrating to Him GOD Almighty consistently on daily basis.
3-  Hold to the Moral and Ethical Codes of their Faith.
4-  Have their Holy Scripture, the Glorious Quran, be their Law and Constitution.
5-  Command what is right and condemn what is wrong.

I think you would agree with this, and I believe this is why you probably decided to embrace Islam, yourself.

Now the Muslim world, today, is undergoing some fundamental changes in their leaderships and countries.  From the last 4 or more centuries, the Muslim world had almost all been colonized by outsiders.  The last colonizers, the British and the French, have installed corrupt puppets as governments to suck the wealth of the Muslim world dry and to transfer it to the their financial institutions and the West.  The way it used to work is this:  We'll make sure that you (the dictator and his few thugs around him) remain in power while you invest the country's wealth into our countries.  The result?  No private sect, no middle class, too much corruption and hypocrisy and lying and cheating and deception as fed into the people's minds.  You are nothing but a slave to the ruler, and don't you dare even speak ill about him.  That's how it used to work, and this is why we today have what is called the "Arab Spring".  But despite all of the political corruption, but Islam still helped the people to remain True to GOD Almighty on the Spiritual side, as I mentioned in the points that I just listed.

Why do muslims worry about the contents of a bible  which they believe to be false? The time spent on reading The Bible could be spent on reading the Qur'an. Why do muslims criticize Christianity when they know it is not a perfect religion? The time spent on criticizing Christianity could be spent on doing good deeds to secure a place in Jenna. Or maybe like Christians who can enjoy in a buffet of sin without guilt and still go to heaven, because, "Jesus died of [their] sins.", Muslims can also do whatever the hell they want without worrying about going to hell, because, "Islam is perfect.".

Islam didn't start with Prophet Muhammad.  It ended with him.  Islam started with Prophet Adam, peace be upon him.  Please visit:

I think these articles are important for you as a starter.

As to the Bible, like I mentioned above sister, we believe that what agrees with the Glorious Quran is the closest to the Truth, from the Bible, and what disagrees with simply don't accept.  But we also may not reject it either, unless it was very clear that it was a corruption or a blasphemy, as in the example that I gave you above.  You see, the Glorious Quran is a Book that is Muhaymin (ruling over, has full authority over) over all of the other previous Books.  IT IS ALSO THE BOOK THAT JUDGES EVERYTHING.  See Noble Verses 2:41, 2:91, 2:101, 3:3, 4:47, 4:136, 4:162, 5:48, 28:51-56, 13:37 for more details.  Also, please visit: to see which parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth.

So it's not about bashing the Bible, sister.  The Bible's own theologians and historians admit that it is filled with man-made alterations and fabrications.  Please visit: to read their own commentaries and statements about almost every single book and gospel from Genesis to Revelation.

The really sad thing to acknowledge is that Muhammad was the last prophet. That means that there is no hope of guiding the misguided. Anyone who hasn't grasped what it means to be trully muslim, will never be guided. That's why muslims are such unkind people. You cannot see the difference between a Christian, a muslim, and a kaffeer these days. They all have so much in common. They commit adultery the same. They are heartless the same. They are blasphemous the same. They point fingers the same. They hate the same. They kill the same.

Again, Islam ended with Prophet Muhammad and didn't start with him.  Islam came to restore the original Faith after it got corrupted.  Allah Almighty also sent a Prophet and a Messenger to the Arabs because they were fresh and had no previous Prophets before.  They also had no corrupt scriptures like the Jews and Christians had.  The pagan Arabs were ready for a new Prophet and a new Divine Religion.  This is why Prophet Muhammad was sent.  He was sent:

1-  To move the Arabs and mankind from the worship of idols to the worship of the True One Living and Sovereign GOD Almighty of the Universe, and to associate no partners with Him.

2-  To restore the original Faith, which is Islam, after the Jews and Christians had corrupted it and invented their own lies and man-made conjectures and alterations of scriptures.

As to Muslims being like the non-Muslims, again, people can't be perfect.  But the majority of the Muslims still hold on to the values of Islam and the Moral Code of Islam far more than anybody else.  Please visit:

I have respect for atheists and satanists, because they are honest. They don't sin in the name of Allah or God. They acknowledge that they are sinners. The satanists knows for sure that they are going to hell. The atheists know for sure that they will not have eternal life. You, muslims and christians are in for a nasty surprise.

What's to respect about them?  They have no Moral Standards, and all they do is go after what is good and try to corrupt it.  They mock the Truth, and they mock Chastity, Modesty, Truthfulness, Morality and everything that is good, and most importantly, they do not worship the One and Absolute Living and Soverign GOD Almighty of the Universe.  I say don't be superficial my sister.  Think deeper.  Don't let people deceive you.

I hope this answers your points.  May Allah Almighty continue to strengthen your Faith in Islam!  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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