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it is quite established that 1st God; Jesus needed support from the other 2 Gods. When the Word/Son is on earth under the form of Jesus, he needed the support of 2nd God that is Holy Spirit to perform miracles inside the body of a human.

And when the Word/Son returns to the heaven, he needed support from the 3rd God Father by resting under the right hand of Father until the time is needed to return for 2nd coming. Despite resting quite close to Father, Son will still not have knowledge of the Hour.

but under a divine organization called Godhead, all 3 Gods are equal and none outranks each other.

It's quite established that the bible says:

1 timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

issiah 44:6
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

issiah 43:11
I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior.

James 2:19
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Mark 12:29
Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

john 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”

Matthew 10:20
For it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

john 12:44-45
And Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me. And whoever sees me sees him who sent me.

mark 2:7
“Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

---------------------------- read this too --------------------------

Psalm 118:8
It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man.

Psalm 146:3
Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation.


1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

clearly, christ jesus is a man, and it's better to take refuge and trust The God who is ONE. Than trust 3 gods, which one is the god and the other 2 HIS CREATION.

Bible in hebrew and greek never talks about jesus SON OF GOD but JESUS son of MAN.
Every time son of god is used, the greek word is exactly the same for SERVANT... Are you 100% sure it's not translated wrongly?

For jesus is created to do gods work and beat anti christ.
For the spirit is created to do gods work and enlighten, save, kill, destroy, strengthen, love, .. etc(you get the point).

So who stands out? God or all? God is not part of a trinity... God is the creator of all angels, demons, humans, heavens, etc..

Luke 1  (KJV)

59 And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father.

60 And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John.

61 And they said unto her, There is none of thy kindred that is called by this name.
(NIV LUKE 1:61 = They said to her, “There is no one among your relatives who has that name.”)

As for the hadith, our prophet was totally right. And anyone claiming jews didn't practice this naming thing... doesn't know his own bible and should stop doing whatever he is doing and start reading the bible...

Submit, that's not the point at all.

The point is, people in that time used to call their newborn after the names of their parents/grandparents, not just pious people :)

That's most of the christians claim, altough the bible clearly says: none in your familiy is named like that... and thus, proves, that something like this actually existed...

Selamun aleykum

I checked the forums using the search engine, I couldn't find anyone mentioning this! (If there is, i'm very sorry!)(title is to show off and get attention to this topic)

Look, when people like david wood say: there is 0 proof of naming people after pious persons existed in 1st century israel.

And then he claims this by using more hadith(not even sahi bukhari/muslim) to show people are confused and didn't know about the naming thing ....

Let's see what LUKE 1:59-62 says


(59) So it was, on the eighth day, that they came to circumcise the child; and they would have called him by the name of his father, Zacharias.(60) His mother answered and said, “No; he shall be called John.”

(61) But they said to her, “There is no one among your relatives who is called by this name.” (62) So they made signs to his father—what he would have him called.

So when they come next time and say no such thing existed in israel, and say it's a pure excuse of the prophet to make up his error. Just use this luke verse!!

Peace brothers and sisters

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