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Help needed to find a particular passage in Lisan al-Arab
« on: March 26, 2016, 11:22:17 AM »
As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Is anybody familiar with Lisan al-Arab in this forum ? Maybe brother Osama ? I 'am looking for a particular fragment which was translated in English as follows:

"Ya’qub says, ‘Bakkah is what is situated in between the two mountains of Makkah, because the people crushed one another during the circumambulation or overcrowded there. (…). It is said that Bakkah is the name of the interior of Makkah and it was given this name due to the crowding and swarming of the people. The tradition of Mujahid states, ‘Bakkah is among the names of Makkah.’ And it is said, ‘Bakkah is the site of the House of the Lord, and Makkah is the whole of the city.’ It is also said, ‘Both [Makkah and Bakkah] are the names of the city; and [the alphabetical letters] “B” and “M” succeed (can replace) one another."

The author that quoted this fragment refers to Lisan al-‘Arab, Beirut: Dar Sadir, 1955-1956 (15 volumes), vol. 10, p. 402. 

But, I 'am specifically using an older edition of Lisan al-Arab from 1883 (20 volumes) which is available here:

Link: https://archive.org/details/lisanalarab01ibnmuoft
Link: https://archive.org/search.php?query=Lisan%20al-Arab

I’ve tried to find this passage, but I could not, it seems the way searching in Lisan al-Arab differ from a typical arabic dictionaries.
Can someone help to identify this fragment and tell me which volume, which page ? Jazakum Allahu khayran

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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Re: Help needed to find a particular passage in Lisan al-Arab
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 06:20:20 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,

I do have the Lisan Al-Arab dictionaries.  I will lookup 'Bakkah' for you and post its details here, Insha'Allah.  I'll try to do it today, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Help needed to find a particular passage in Lisan al-Arab
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 06:50:53 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,

I do have the Lisan Al-Arab dictionaries.  I will lookup 'Bakkah' for you and post its details here, Insha'Allah.  I'll try to do it today, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Thank you so much dear brother Osama, may Allah greatly bless you for that! Ameen ya rab.
But, is it possible to looking for this fragment in this edition ?:

Link: https://archive.org/search.php?query=Lisan%20al-Arab

You can download any volume from the link above as pdf file. Since I' am giving a full references in my book, I would need to know which volume, which page etc. For example:

Ibn Manzūr, Lisan al-Arab, vol. 10 (Cairo: al-Matbaʿa al-Kubra al-Amirīya, 1883), p. 328.

And by the way can you explain me brother how to use Lisan al-Arab ? So, in the future I will be able to check it for myself :)
Barak Allahu fika akhi al-aziz, and jazaka Allahu khayran for your kind of help.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

 

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