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To prove one of my points:
that even if someone ran away during the stoning, he is to be left alone
This is the hadith
It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “Ma`iz bin Malik came to the Prophet (SAW) and said: 'I have committed fornication,' and he (the Prophet (SAW)) turned away from him. He said: 'I have committed fornication,' and he turned away from him. Then, he said: I have committed fornication, and he turned away from him, until when he had confessed four times, he ordered that he should be stoned. When he was being struck with the stones, he ran away, but a man caught up with him who had a camel's jawbone in his hand; hestruck him and he fell down. The Prophet (SAW) was told about how he fled when the stones hit him and hesaid: 'Why did you not let him be?'” (Sahih)

convicting someone of adultery is next to impossible in islam.
see this awesome video

and of course, even if someone ran away during the stoning, he is to be left alone
People are encouraged to conceal their sin
Pregnancy cannot count for conviction
and these are just things the video didnt mention

Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: The 2 WORST Websites
« on: December 03, 2012, 03:59:12 AM »
more like we are the traditionalists are they are the innovators (Bid'ah)

Hadiths & Sunna, and Prophet Muhammad's Person / Chess
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:41:29 PM »
what evidence is therefor the banning it (chess).
the only one i found was this:
Sahih Muslim
Book 028, Number 5612:
Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.
However in the original arabic, it is found that the word they used is النَّرْدَشِيرِ, and it is translated as gambling dice or backgammon, NOT CHESS, so they proper translation is:
He who plays with Gambling dice (or backgammon) is like one who dipped his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.
Most other claims i met have no sources to back up their claims.
Chess increases you analytical ability,it is a beneficial pastime and a fun, competitive sport.

Rebuttals & Polemics / The 2 WORST Websites
« on: November 29, 2012, 07:52:37 PM »
These two are, by far, the WORST anti Islamic websites:
The first is
This think is a comic website, it tells horrendous lies about the prophet through cartoons and comics, it is deadly because it gives a person visual effects, and we all love comics (I still read pokemon), so people will find it entertaining, in addition, kids will feel attracted to this book and website.

the other is worse
It was created by MUSLIMS and shows MUSLIMS are violent, intolerant, etc.
for eg.
these people make me sick, they actually claim to be Muslims, the are conservative, salafi, not even ultra-conservative (Islamqa), they are extremists, they need to be stopped, in my view, these are the people who have problems, these people are loons (a toast to loonwatch). Its these people who are ruining the images of Islam, I swear EVERY single Anti Islamic argument is probably taken out of this MUSLIM website. Ali Sina and wikiislam and not even close to this because they acknowledge they are anti Islam, these people are proislam doing word twists false translations, etc.

First we must thank our fellow muslims and rationalists (of course) (non religious and nonpolitical, great people, non Muslims fighting islamophobia) (god have mercy on his soul)
And Zakir naik (I dont think he has a website)
(Idont agree with most of their views, but islamqa is also included)
thoughts on how we specifically do something about these websites and books
These people have fought many battle against the haters, they deserve our praise, they have refuted (ALOMOST) every argument put forth.

2nd we should do more to stop this sites (especially make petition for scholars and others to male proclamation (fatwas and such) to denounce these hating websites and praise the others. prosylizing is important, but it begins wby showing the true, peacful message of islam.
Our enemy has made a list of ALMOST every single arguement against islam (some haven't been reftued yet) if we can refute this, the we r that one step closer to victory

Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Bopping em in the head.
« on: November 27, 2012, 03:12:53 PM »
I believe you could defend yourself
"fight those who fight you"

I always thought that this particular hadith was a sign to show that women and men in islam are equals, yet, according to, it is considered weak. here is the hadith.
"The Prophet was asked about a man who finds wetness and he does not remember having a wet dream. So he said: 'He is to perform Ghusl. And (he was asked) about a man who had a wet dream but does not find any wetness, so he said: 'No Ghusl is required of him.' Umm Salimsaid: 'O Messenger of Al1ah! Is the woman required to perfonn Ghusl if she sees that?' He replied: 'Yes. Indeed women are he partners of men.'" (Da'if)

حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ الْخَيَّاطُ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ، هُوَ الْعُمَرِيُّ عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ، عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ سُئِلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنِ الرَّجُلِ يَجِدُ الْبَلَلَ وَلاَ يَذْكُرُ احْتِلاَمًا قَالَ ‏"‏ يَغْتَسِلُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ وَعَنِ الرَّجُلِ يَرَى أَنَّهُ قَدِ احْتَلَمَ وَلَمْ يَجِدْ بَلَلاً قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ غُسْلَ عَلَيْهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَتْ أُمُّ سَلَمَةَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ هَلْ عَلَى الْمَرْأَةِ تَرَى ذَلِكَ غُسْلٌ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ إِنَّ النِّسَاءَ شَقَائِقُ الرِّجَالِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَإِنَّمَا رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ حَدِيثَ عَائِشَةَ فِي الرَّجُلِ يَجِدُ الْبَلَلَ وَلاَ يَذْكُرُ احْتِلاَمًا ‏.‏ وَعَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ ضَعَّفَهُ يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ مِنْ قِبَلِ حِفْظِهِ فِي الْحَدِيثِ ‏.‏ وَهُوَ قَوْلُ غَيْرِ وَاحِدٍ مِنْ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَالتَّابِعِينَ إِذَا اسْتَيْقَظَ الرَّجُلُ فَرَأَى بِلَّةً أَنَّهُ يَغْتَسِلُ ‏.‏ وَهُوَ قَوْلُ سُفْيَانَ الثَّوْرِيِّ وَأَحْمَدَ ‏.‏ وَقَالَ بَعْضُ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ مِنَ التَّابِعِينَ إِنَّمَا يَجِبُ عَلَيْهِ الْغُسْلُ إِذَا كَانَتِ الْبِلَّةُ بِلَّةَ نُطْفَةٍ ‏.‏ وَهُوَ قَوْلُ الشَّافِعِيِّ وَإِسْحَاقَ ‏.‏ وَإِذَا رَأَى احْتِلاَمًا وَلَمْ يَرَ بِلَّةً فَلاَ غُسْلَ عَلَيْهِ عِنْدَ عَامَّةِ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ

Reference    : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 113

Another reference is in Sunan Abu Dawood 236 ( )
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Prophet () was asked about a person who found moisture (on his body or clothes) but did not remember the sexual dream. He replied: He should take a bath. He was asked about a person who remembered that he had a sexual dream but did not find moisture. He replied: Bath is not necessary for him. Umm Salamah then asked: Is washing necessary for a woman if she sees that (in her dream)? He replied: Yes. Woman are counterpart of men.

حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ الْخَيَّاطُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ الْعُمَرِيُّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ سُئِلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنِ الرَّجُلِ يَجِدُ الْبَلَلَ وَلاَ يَذْكُرُ احْتِلاَمًا قَالَ ‏"‏ يَغْتَسِلُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ وَعَنِ الرَّجُلِ يَرَى أَنَّهُ قَدِ احْتَلَمَ وَلاَ يَجِدُ الْبَلَلَ قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ غُسْلَ عَلَيْهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَقَالَتْ أُمُّ سُلَيْمٍ الْمَرْأَةُ تَرَى ذَلِكَ أَعَلَيْهَا غُسْلٌ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ إِنَّمَا النِّسَاءُ شَقَائِقُ الرِّجَالِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

حسن إلا قول أم سليم المرأة ترى الخ (الألباني)   حكم:

As you can see (In arabic) Albani clasifies this as hasan (Good) EXCEPT THE PART ABOUT THE WOMEN, istheir other evidence of the equality of women, or is their another AUTHENTIC reference, and if you find one , can you post the link as well

Cults & Deviant Beliefs / Re: Radicals and extremists
« on: November 25, 2012, 05:12:43 AM »
Peace, dear brother, can u pls give me the number of the hadith and which book? Is it sahih by albani and other scholars. Thanks

In Islam / Deficiency
« on: November 24, 2012, 12:52:07 PM »
in bukhari Vol. 1, Book 6, Hadith 301
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Messenger () went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Messenger () ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Messenger () ! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

نُقْص and its contemperaries (نَاقِصَاتِ and نُقْصَانِ) are actually more accurately translated into reduction not deficiency. In fact will call minus in arabic نَاقِصَ. YOu shouldinclude this in your article

Possibly, he did make mistakes, as my previous comment states.

Cults & Deviant Beliefs / Radicals and extremists
« on: November 23, 2012, 12:35:39 PM »
maybe ac could have a section dedicated to refuting extremist or fundemental claims, eg. it is forbidden to watch TV, listen to music, not be friends with non muslims, kill non believers, all hadith are correct, take the literal meaning etc. I know you have articles but do u have a section.
maybe give advice on how you could stop this
ps on your "adult suckling" article, you should add this hadith that shows that this was a unique case
Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), used to say that all wives of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) disclaimed the idea that one with this type of fosterage (having been suckled after the proper period) should come to them. and said to 'A'isha:
By Allah, we do not find this but a sort of concession given by Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) only for Salim, and no one was ging to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.

حَدَّثَنِي عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ بْنُ شُعَيْبِ بْنِ اللَّيْثِ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ جَدِّي، حَدَّثَنِي عُقَيْلُ بْنُ، خَالِدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، أَنَّهُ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو عُبَيْدَةَ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ زَمْعَةَ، أَنَّ أُمَّهُ، زَيْنَبَ بِنْتَ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ أَخْبَرَتْهُ أَنَّ أُمَّهَا أُمَّ سَلَمَةَ زَوْجَ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَتْ تَقُولُ أَبَى سَائِرُ أَزْوَاجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنْ يُدْخِلْنَ عَلَيْهِنَّ أَحَدًا بِتِلْكَ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَقُلْنَ لِعَائِشَةَ وَاللَّهِ مَا نَرَى هَذَا إِلاَّ رُخْصَةً أَرْخَصَهَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم لِسَالِمٍ خَاصَّةً فَمَا هُوَ بِدَاخِلٍ عَلَيْنَا أَحَدٌ بِهَذِهِ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَلاَ رَائِينَا.

USC-MSA web (English) reference    : Book 8, Hadith 3429
Arabic reference    : Book 18, Hadith 3678

i don't think you should follow Mushin's translation, also you should really look into the information, even some early Muslim scholars, like ibn kathir, have made mistakes regarding the commentary, such as when he was comentaring verse 8: 39, he translated fitna as shirk, but the proof they give about a hadith, backs up the fact that picktall and yusuf ali's translation that it means persecution is correct.

Media / Re: Languages
« on: November 23, 2012, 11:40:19 AM »
Maybe you could recruit someone who speaks ANY language (even Khmer) and have him/her translate, their are a lot of devoted Muslims who speak many languages, and want to make some good deeds, (isn't one of your team from the Netherlands?). You can start small, translate one article or two and slowly build up, you don't need big organisations, you only need a few devout native (or advanced) speakers who want to help.
Good Luck

I might not agree completely with either site (as i dont agree completely with zakik naik), but they r very knowledgeable on Islam. and both give very good arguments. so which one is right. im now tending towards correctislamicfaith, this also the view of al azhar.

Hadiths & Sunna, and Prophet Muhammad's Person / Re: The beard in Islam
« on: November 22, 2012, 08:03:08 PM »
As I mentioned before there r 3 views about the beard, most muslims and scholars adhere to the 2nd view, that growing it is a great sunnah, and cutting is is either hated (makrooh) or is permissible (halal or mubah). There are three article which will convince u God willing that this is the correct view, (God knows best), there are
Examining the dalils for the beard written by Kevin Abdullah Karim (google it, it is a word dovument)
and Al Azhar's fatwa on beards.

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