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Can Someone Refute this?
« on: May 01, 2015, 12:53:13 PM »
On this link here:
https://quranspotlight.wordpress.com/articles/quran-hadith-talmud-galen/
they say everything is copied from Talmud especially the gender determination in 40 days hadith. Need a big time refutation on this please.

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 01:45:08 PM »
In my opinion, those who claim that Mohammed plagiarized from other books lack integrity. Mohammed spent 13 years after his revelation calling peacefully to the religion of Allah, and the inspiration was still coming down at the time where Quraishi unbelievers used to continuously prevent him from doing so, we all know the prophet's statement when the Qurishi pagans asked Abu Taleb the uncle of Mohammed about leaving Islam:

"By Allah, if they put the sun in my right, and the moon in my left, I wouldn't stop [calling] until Allah appears it or I am done without it"

During these 13 years Mohammed experienced lost of troubles in his mission like migration, boycott, mockings, and he was harmed in Ta'if where no one embraced Islam except one.

After this period, Mohammed was discharging armies, giving the Ahkam (rullings) he was leading the battles, and giving instructions, and the revelation was still descending down.. After that, the Prophet started sending letters to the Kings of the world, as he wanted to establish the deen over all as Allah said. And then the conquests started.

There is no way, that Mohammed plagiarized from anyone, the critics need an evidence not a hypothesis, no one will believe anyone if he speculates about an argument and doesn't give reasonable evidence.

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 08:15:00 PM »
That is like saying Muhammad was actually  a literate Jewish Rabbi that turns  mad and thinks he needs to lead the Arabs to a path of truth and abandon worshiping idols.

Also by having such logic one can also say Judaism plagiarized 7 Laws of Noah's religion and just add another 3 Laws to make it entotal 10 Commandment.

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 08:24:10 PM »
On this link here:
https://quranspotlight.wordpress.com/articles/quran-hadith-talmud-galen/
they say everything is copied from Talmud especially the gender determination in 40 days hadith. Need a big time refutation on this please.

Regards,

As'salamu Alaikum akhi,

We don't need any refutation at all, let alone a big time refutation.  The answer is very simple actually:

1-  If the Hadith exists in the Talmud, then it is either a fabrication on the mouth of the Prophet, or a confirmation to the Divine Truth that exists in the previous Scriptures and writings.

2-  The Glorious Quran has tons of Numerical and Scientific Miracles that are quite amazing.  I challenge all infidels to refute them.  Try going to this link:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

The Glorious Quran has tens (10s) of Miracles that deal with:

1-  Embryology.
2-  Biology.
3-  Astronomy.
4-  Geology.
5-  Mathematics
6-  Archeology.
7-  Prophecies.

Also in regards to Embryology in the Glorious Quran, please checkout the following link: www.answering-christianity.com/bones_then_muscles_wrapping.htm.    You'll see the ample Noble Verses, and the detailed Arabic analysis that demonstrate:

1-  Man is created from the purest and the best sperm (سلالة) that is also drawn with ease (سل ).

2-  The sperm (نطفة) is injected into (في) a secure and firm base (قرار مكين); the female's egg.  In another Noble Verse, sperm (نطفة) is said to be a piercing and penetrating one ( تمنى and  يمنى  (to pierce)), which is exactly how the male's sperm enters the female's egg - through piercing through it.

3-  The sperm develops into a leech-like (علقة) substance.

4-  Then the leech-like substance develops into a chewed-like (مضغة) substance.

5-  Then from the chew-like substance bones (عظام) are created.

6-  Then the muscles (لحم) wrap around the bones.
   
7-   The fetus goes through "three Veils of darkness and Stages" development.  Science just confirmed it recently, and the Glorious Quran mentioned it 1,500 years ago.
   
The reader can also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#embryology

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2015, 08:35:44 PM »
LOL, I see that this link is personal:

"In his typical combination of desperation, incompetence, and stupidity, the Islamic apologist, Osama Abdallah, makes the following claim about the word nutfah in an attempt to make it sound like a single sperm:"

And he then goes on to say:

"Abdallah’s claim has been copied by other Islamic websites, and recently another well-known apologist was foiled in an attempt to evolve the claim further by suggesting that Abdallah’s mistaken generalization actually appears in the Lisan al-Arab definition. Lisan al-Arab’s actual definition of nutfah is a little amount (qalil, قليل) of water (see beginning of this article). Note that even if we supposed that nutfah had meant a single drop, a sperm is a discrete object from among many of the same discrete objects, unlike a drop of water, which is an amount of something from a larger amount."

I have thoroughly proven that NUTFAH means A SINGLE ENTITY, and the BEST ONE of its group.  This is how the Arabs of old understood it, and I have thoroughly proven this.  See the links below.  And this is not the only Noble Word that demonstrated the Overwhelming Miracles in the field of embryology in the Glorious Quran.  As I mentioned above, in regards to Embryology in the Glorious Quran, please checkout the following link: www.answering-christianity.com/bones_then_muscles_wrapping.htm.    You'll see the ample Noble Verses, and the detailed Arabic analysis that demonstrate:

1-  Man is created from the purest and the best sperm (سلالة) that is also drawn with ease (سل ).

2-  The sperm (نطفة) is injected into (في) a secure and firm base (قرار مكين); the female's egg.  In another Noble Verse, sperm (نطفة) is said to be a piercing and penetrating one ( تمنى and  يمنى  (to pierce)), which is exactly how the male's sperm enters the female's egg - through piercing through it.

3-  The sperm develops into a leech-like (علقة) substance.

4-  Then the leech-like substance develops into a chewed-like (مضغة) substance.

5-  Then from the chew-like substance bones (عظام) are created.

6-  Then the muscles (لحم) wrap around the bones.
   
7-   The fetus goes through "three Veils of darkness and Stages" development.  Science just confirmed it recently, and the Glorious Quran mentioned it 1,500 years ago.
   
The reader can also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#embryology

And the Glorious Quran has tens (10s) of Miracles that deal with:

1-  Embryology.
2-  Biology.
3-  Astronomy.
4-  Geology.
5-  Mathematics
6-  Archeology.
7-  Prophecies.

Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

You see, when clowns respond to thorough references from seven big dictionaries with silly comments/paragraphs of this kind, then I have no reason to really take them seriously.  All I have to do is give the reader the link that the infidels "responded" to to refute them back.  The reader can clearly see the detailed analysis in Arabic and how Miraculous indeed the Glorious Quran's Statements and Words at:

www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm

www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#embryology

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


The doomed-to-Hell infidels can go and pound sand.  They have nothing but desperation and falsehood.  We the Muslims have the Divine Truth of Allah Almighty.  The doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 05:25:06 AM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brothers,

This is another article by the scum...just another hypothesis of his ***** head. (u can imagine anything in this blank space)

https://quranspotlight.wordpress.com/articles/quran-odd-even-debunked/

Can someone please give him this link,

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1578.0 (numerical miracles in the quran, I love Bro Dawud's posts ;D)

So all these are just coincidents huh? How logical and practical claims come out of these jokers' heads!

And Bro Osama, I think that guy just wants to refute u :P that's why he just talks about the 6555-6236 miracle and doesn't know anything about the other ones cuz u talk about those ones the most! U gotta make the stuffs in this article ( www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm) more visible too bro :)

I read a book "Al Quran's challenge- part 1" by kazi jahan mia. Couldn't finish the first chapter for the load of 19 miracles in the Quran! I guess u have read it too.

And at last, let me copy u ;D

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The doomed-to-Hell infidels can go and pound sand.  They have nothing
but desperation and falsehood.  We the Muslims have the Divine Truth of
Allah Almighty.  The doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing.

Salam,
Tahmeed
« Last Edit: May 02, 2015, 05:40:15 AM by Tahmeed »

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 03:19:56 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

Dear brother Tahmeed, the following is the link to brother Kazi Jahan Mia's book from Google

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Al-Qur%27an+challenge+by+kazi+jahan+mia

And yes, brother Dawud's posts are amazing! :).  He is our scientist here ;D.

And as to linking other Numerical Miracles on the website, I will see to it soon, Insha'Allah.

Jazaka Allah Khayr, you and the Muslims here.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2015, 06:44:15 PM »
Walaikumus salam dear Bro Osama,

JajakAllahu khair for the link Bro. But unfortunately it didn't work on my tab I don't know why. But Thanks anyway :)

The original book is in Bengali and I will inshAllah buy it soon (by the way I'm from Bangladesdh). But has it been translated in English? I searched on google but didn't find any rather found a comment that this book needs to be translated. The book is a masterpiece actually.

JajakAllahu khair
Tahmeed

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2015, 11:36:22 PM »
In this following article Hamaza Tzortzis has critically examined all these bogus claims.

http://www.theinimitablequran.com/Did_the_Prophet_Muhammad_Plagiarise_Hellenic_Embryology.pdf

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2015, 09:51:35 AM »
That is like saying Muhammad was actually  a literate Jewish Rabbi that turns  mad and thinks he needs to lead the Arabs to a path of truth and abandon worshiping idols.

Also by having such logic one can also say Judaism plagiarized 7 Laws of Noah's religion and just add another 3 Laws to make it entotal 10 Commandment.

Yes,this is also just like saying Jesus[PBUH] copied from the old testament,and made some changes in it.

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 06:58:24 AM »
Assalam- u - Alaikum,

I don't think we should create multiple threads. But anyway there is already such topic which is being discussed

Here http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1856.0


You can see my answer on that link.

Your Brother,
Uzair Ahmed

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Re: Can Someone Refute this?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2015, 10:55:59 AM »
On this link here:
https://quranspotlight.wordpress.com/articles/quran-hadith-talmud-galen/
they say everything is copied from Talmud especially the gender determination in 40 days hadith. Need a big time refutation on this please.

Regards,
Here is a very good rebbutal, written by a greek man (Hamza Tzortzis) who has read Galen in his original language:
http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/prophetic-studies/did-the-prophet-muhammad-plagiarise-hellenic-embryology/

 

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