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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: June 02, 2021, 08:53:40 AM »
Sure.  Let us look at the Noble Verses in question:

[033:050]  O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom God has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any a believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[033:051]  Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and God knows (all) that is in your hearts: and God is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

[033:052]  It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and God doth watch over all things.



Two things we must keep in mind:

1-  The Glorious Quran's Verses came down in different times.  The ordering of the Noble Verses was done by Angel Gabriel and Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon them.  The Angel would instruct the Prophet where the new Noble Verse or verses be placed.

2-  Prophets had certain privileges.  Nothing contradicting to Allah Almighty's Moral Code, but Prophets had privileges.  Even in the Jewish religion, Prophets and priests had privileges, such as they are forbidden from marrying non-virgin Jewish women and any non-Jewish woman:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/muhammads_share.htm


So regarding Noble Verse 33:50, the women that were allowed for the Prophet were really nothing different from those allowed for Muslim men.  As to "...any believing woman who has offered herself to the Prophet and whom the Prophet wishes to wed....", actually there is a mistranslation here.  The Noble Verse in Arabic says "...and a believing woman who has...."  There is no ANY.  Married women are forbidden to marry other men, and the Noble Verse does not give an absolute any.  The woman must be single, and not a MUHSANAH (under another man).


Regarding Noble Verse 33:52, it is a Law that was given to Prophet Muhammad to forbid him from:

1-  Marrying or replacing women with other women.  This is because the sacredness of marriage and its Solemn Covenant was made clear in the Glorious Quran.

2-  The Prophet at the time of limiting polygamy to up to four wives only, he had more than four wives at the time.  So Allah Almighty put a freeze on the Prophet from further marrying any woman.

3-  This Noble Verse also prevents any further taking advantage or abuse of the sacredness of marriage by the Prophet.  Divorce is allowed but it is highly detestable by Allah Almighty, and being careless with it will bring sin upon you:

‏2:236 لاجناح عليكم ان طلقتم النساء مالم تمسوهن او تفرضوا لهن فريضة ومتعوهن على الموسع قدره وعلى المقتر قدره متاعا بالمعروف حقا على المحسنين

"You bear no sin if you divorce your wives AS LONG AS YOU HAVE NOT (ma-lam مالم) had (a sexual) contact (with them), and before settling (the amount of) the nuptial premium (for them). Yet, you should make provisions for them (even then); the affluent in keeping with his means, and the poor according to what he can afford. A fair provision is an obligation upon the pious.  (The Noble Quran, 2:236)"


This Noble Verse is for all Muslim men and it is speaking in the plural.  The only time you're guaranteed to not bring sin upon you via divorce is if you divorce before the first sexual intercourse, i.e., before consummating the marriage.  This is the period where the couple would be engaged and are allowed to start going out and decide if they're good match to each other or not.  So to prevent the Prophet from abusing divorce, Allah Almighty simply prohibited him from marrying again.  The Prophet was still allowed to divorce any wife.  This was never forbidden for him.


Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm



No abrogation at all.  Just different Laws for different situations.  For all Muslim men, marriage and divorce are allowed for as long as they live.  For the Prophet, marriage had an expiration date on it.  The day came when he was forbidden from marrying again.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah



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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Tenses Question
« on: May 28, 2021, 04:09:51 PM »
Also brother, the past tense even in English can include the future.  For example, if you ask me "Do you own www.answering-christianity.com ?" or "Are you the owner of www.answering-christianity.com ?"

Technically, I can answer you something like this: "I've been since 1999".  "I've been" here doesn't stop at today and the future.  In other words, it doesn't mean that I stopped owning the website or no longer own the website.  No, on the contrary, it would mean here that I've been and I am still and will always insha'Allah be the owner of this website.  The context of "I've been" here means it is continuous.

So Allah Almighty using past tense is indeed most appropriate, because it does include the past, present and future and all infinity and all eternity.  So Kaana for Allah Almighty means that He's been and is and will always be.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Tenses Question
« on: May 28, 2021, 08:28:44 AM »
Jazaka Allah Khayr as well, brother.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Tenses Question
« on: May 28, 2021, 08:08:16 AM »
Kaana كَانَ when used for Allah Almighty it means what I described in the previous post, because it indeed is the closest word that can give us a simple picture of His Infinity.  Allah Almighty did use YAKOON (2:117), which is present of Kaana, when the Almighty Said when He wants to create something He commands it "be and it becomes" (2:117).  Here YAKOON was used, because it has beginning and end (all shall taste death) 3:185 كل نفس ذائقة الموت .  But with Allah Almighty past tense encompasses all past and present and future.  There is nothing comparable to Allah Almighty (112:004).  Our earthly grammar does not encompass Allah Almighty.  But the use of past tense is the most appropriate.


In a nutshell, before anything and everything was Allah Almighty.  Hence the use of past tense for Allah Almighty.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Tenses Question
« on: May 27, 2021, 08:38:45 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Past tense is used for Allah Almighty to tell every flesh and blood creation on this earth that Allah Almighty is the GOD Almighty of all times and all existence, and all infinity and all eternity.  Our earth and existence here is limited, and our logic can not encompass this.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: May 22, 2021, 05:28:10 PM »
Also wow you definitely hate Wstern women a lot, lol. And who was that one guy who said that, you knew him?

A guy at work.  I don't hate anyone.  I wish them all Divine Guidance from Allah Almighty.  But I definitely do not want my daughter to associate with anyone of them.  Me and my wife are in total agreement on this.  No non-Muslim female friend, and certainly no male friend at all (Muslim or none).

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: May 22, 2021, 05:26:30 PM »
Maybe brother.  There is no certain documentation about this.  Again, memorizing 6236 Noble Verses is not easy.  Maybe the Prophet, peace be upon him, actually did.  But in the end, it wouldn't at all compromise the preservation of the Holy Quran, because it was thoroughly documented and preserved by the community, and not just by one person.  Plus the Quran is read in parts and systematically in our daily Prayers from beginning to end, and is read whole during the Month of Ramadan.  So there were many who memorized it and documented it.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: May 22, 2021, 04:35:36 PM »
You will not find two who agree on which abrogates which in the Glorious Quran, and on the amount of verses that are abrogated.  Every quack barks his conjecture.  All of those who bark abrogation are either quacks or liars that fabricate lies on the Holy Quran.  There is no abrogation in the Quran.  Period.  It was a lie that was invented by infidels.

As to Prophet Muhammad forgetting Noble Verses, that is normal for a flesh and blood human being.  The Glorious Quran is made of 6236 Noble Verses.  Prophet Muhammad didn't have all of them memorized.  The preservation of the Quran was thorough and complete by the companions and family of the Prophet.  Please visit the following link to see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

As to ​" اَوْ يَجْعَلَ اللهُ لَهُنَّ سَبِيْلًا , this is referring to the women (lesbians or not) who commit lewdness.  Lewdness includes adultery.  It is broader.  Here if they repent (not go back to it again after being found guilty and convicted), then they are to be set free ​" اَوْ يَجْعَلَ اللهُ لَهُنَّ سَبِيْلًا .  Otherwise, they are to be locked up till death comes upon them.  Visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/homosexuals.htm


Again, there is no abrogation.  The adultery punishment is specific between a man and a woman, and it is limited to SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.  Otherwise it would be LAMAM (like kissing and touching before actual sex), which is a lesser crime than ZINA (sexual intercourse).  This LAMAM falls under lewdness.  In a nutshell, there are levels and degrees to sexual sinning.  They're not all the same.



Women's Temptations and Corruption:

I personally believe that Allah Almighty has placed this Law of locking them up till death if they're caught again is to prevent women from prostituting and spreading evil in the lands.  Women are forbidden from dressing sexy and showing off their curves and temptations.  Islam stops them at their tracks from defiling the land with their filth.  A woman is expected to be pious, chaste and the pinnacle of chastity and modesty.  Prostitutes and filthy temptations have no place in Muslim society.

Most Western women and men have great respect towards Muslim women, who dress modest and are chaste.  A woman in the West is nothing but a walking vagina, breasts and butt.  Like one guy once said, put a pillow on her face and "f her"; meaning who gives a two cents rats ass about how she feels and what she has to say.

A Muslim woman is truly dignified and is treated with best dignity and respect, and she is the best woman to produce and raise societies, especially in raising daughters.  Non-Muslim women are treated like harlots, and are viewed as harlots, which are (again) nothing but walking sexual objects to test drive.  The overwhelming majority of them have been test driven by many men, each.  Such quality is garbage.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Jazakum Allah Khayr, brothers.  Likewise to you and your families, insha'Allah.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Abrogation
« on: May 14, 2021, 05:33:18 PM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Abrogation means contradiction.  There is no abrogation in the Glorious Quran.  It was a lie invented by infidels and ignorant.  Here are the Noble Verses in question:

[002:240]  Those of you who die and leave widows should bequeath for their widows a year's maintenance and residence; but if they leave (The residence), there is no blame on you for what they do with themselves, provided it is reasonable. And God is Exalted in Power, Wise.

Before dividing the inheritance, the Widow has the right to remain in her residence for 1 full year with full maintenance financial support from the deceased man's wealth.


[002:234]  If any of you die and leave widows behind, they shall wait concerning themselves four months and ten days: When they have fulfilled their term, there is no blame on you if they dispose of themselves in a just and reasonable manner. And God is well acquainted with what ye do.

Here a widow must wait four lunar months and ten days before she can marry again.  Two different Noble Verses with two different topics and two different rulings.


As to part 2, it is Allah Almighty's Will to have us remember and forget things.  This has nothing to do with the preservation of the Glorious Quran.  The Noble Verse was speaking about Prophet Muhammad learning from Angel Gabriel how to read the Glorious Quran.  The Quran's preservation was primarily the responsibility of Angel Gabriel. 

As to "this prompted scholars to say that this verse is about man-woman adultery".  No it is not limited to man and woman (opposite genders).  The Noble Verses do include and are talking about homosexuals.

Please visit:
https://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm#no_abrogation
https://www.answering-christianity.com/abrogation.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/homosexuals.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/adultery.htm



Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

I would like to wish a blessed and happy Eid to all Muslims all around the world, insha'Allah.  Eid Mubarak to you and to your families.  May Allah Almighty show all of you with His Guidance and with an abundance of Blessings.  Ameen.

Your brother in Islam,
Osama Abdallah

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Jazaka Allah Khayr, akhi.  I ordered the book and insha'Allah will receive it in two days and start diving into it.  Christianity is indeed a false religion that just kept evolving and modifying.  Even its name is man-made.  The people of Antioch made it up. 

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Reproducible Miracle
« on: May 03, 2021, 10:27:53 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers Emre and Qualities,

Jazakum Allah Khayr for the links. 

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Baal and the OT
« on: April 30, 2021, 08:17:25 AM »
I updated the article.  Jazaka Allah Khayr.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Baal and the OT
« on: April 29, 2021, 05:54:07 AM »
It is possible the translation is false, meaning the original word wasn't that or didn't mean that.  They are also known to fabricate verses and change meanings as Allah Almighty said in the Glorious Quran about their corrupt scriptures:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/which_book_recited.htm


In any case, toiletianity is a false lie from Hell.  Islam is the Divine Truth of Allah Almighty.

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