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Is Allah Hubal, or is the Quran form the demon?
« on: December 10, 2015, 09:37:43 PM »
Salam Aleikum Brothers, Which is the refutation to somebody who says that the Prophet (Saws) did not see to Allah but Alha (which according to him it is a demon)? He says that the scientific miracles may be known by a demon who would have traveled to stars to know about Black Holes, or would have to be in the beginning and he saw the Big Bang, the expansion of universe and others things; I saw a book about this which quoted a words of Jesus in Mark 3:26-29:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+3%3A26-29&version=KJV

But the verse 29 says that the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost will never be forgiven, and that is a pillar of actual christianity, because they say that verse defend them against the people who say that the expulsation of demons is from the Devil. So, This is double-edged sword and cannot compone a good argument. So, Do you have a good and perfect argument to refute all of this? OTHER IMPORTANT THING is that some christians say Allah is Hubal because the Quran refuses the worshipping to Al-lat, Uzza and Manat, but not to Hubal which was the greatest of the Kaaba, so (according to them) Hubal is Allah. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

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Re: Is Allah Hubal, or is the Quran form the demon?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 11:28:30 PM »

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He says that the scientific miracles may be known by a demon who would have traveled to stars to know about Black Holes, or would have to be in the beginning and he saw the Big Bang, the expansion of universe and others things;

In the beginning there is the One the Creator.
However if one believe that aside from the Creator, there exist Demon and Partners in the beginning. Then that is their belief.


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But the verse 29 says that the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost will never be forgiven, and that is a pillar of actual christianity,

Holy spirit's duty is just to receive command from God the Creator. The Spirit cannot make his own decision. The Spirit never enter the throne of God thus only hovers on water beneath the throne of God. The throne of God belongs only to Himself. No similtitude of other entities will be able to make themselves equal to Creator.

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OTHER IMPORTANT THING is that some christians say Allah is Hubal because the Quran refuses the worshipping to Al-lat, Uzza and Manat, but not to Hubal which was the greatest of the Kaaba, so (according to them) Hubal is Allah. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

Allah cant be sculptured as none have ever seen Allah unveiled.
Hubal is one of the 360 scultpures  outside of Kaaba said to have of a humaneqsue appearance.

On that, `Umar could not help saying, "You are a liar, O enemy of Allah! Allah has kept what will make you unhappy." Abu Sufyan said, "Superior may be Hubal!" On that the Prophet said (to his companions), "Reply to him." They asked, "What may we say?" He said, "Say: Allah is More Elevated and More Majestic!" Abu Sufyan said, "We have (the idol) Al-`Uzza, whereas you have no `Uzza!" The Prophet (ﷺ) said (to his companions), "Reply to him." They said, "What may we say?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Say: Allah is our Helper and you have no helper."

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Re: Is Allah Hubal, or is the Quran form the demon?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2015, 08:40:31 PM »
Salam Aleikum Brother, thanks for your answer, the truth is that argument does not have arguments, the pre-islamic arabs believed in a God which was not an idol, but the God of the idols; So, if Hubal was an idol, he was not Allah, because Allah was over Hubal, this articule only in spanish in Wikipedia shows a prayer to Allah Taala, in that is showed that Allah was very superior to other gods; but, I do not believe completelly in the articule, because it shows that the arabs believed that God did not have a partner except the gods of the Kaaba, and the phrase "God does not have a partner" appears a post-islamic composition to show (more or less) how the arabs considered to the idols partners of God; also, the articule does not have any reference or any source that checks this:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah-Taala

THANKS AND SALAM.


 

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