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A woman lacks mind and faith
« on: September 21, 2022, 06:33:53 PM »
Peace be upon you,

Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) said that a woman lacks mind and faith. Allah said in Quran that we use two men as witnesses to our affairs, and if there are no two men, then one man and two women. Allah replaced one man with two women, but Allah said that the reason for two women is that if one woman forgets, then the other woman reminds her. And when Allah spoke about forgetting, this means that the brain of women is weak.

•   Quran (2:282) … And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her

Doctors have discovered today that a woman’s brain is small than a man’s brain. How did Mohamed know this information more than 1400 years ago without today’s advanced technology? The answer is that God the Creator told him this information. This is evidence that Mohamed is a prophet from God Almighty.

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However, you should know that when Prophet Mohamed said that a woman lacks mind, he did not mean to insult her or look down on her, rather he meant to tell men that they are sensitive and that men should take care of them and treat them well. Mohamed described women as glass vessels and we all know that we use the vessel to put flowers in it, and the meaning of glass is that glass is easy to break, so Prophet described the woman as sensitive and easy to hurt her feelings. That is why he commanded men to treat women kindly.

•   Allah's Messenger was on a journey and he had his servant called Anjasha who was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Messenger said, O Anjasha! Be careful; drive slowly (the camels) for you are driving the mounts that carry vessels of glass (women).

•   Prophet Mohamed said: And I command you to take care of the women in a good manner for they are created from a rib and the most crooked portion of the rib is its upper part; if you try to straighten it, you will break it, and if you leave it, it will remain crooked, so I command you to take care of the women in a good manner.

•   Prophet Mohamed said: The best amongst you are those who treat their wives the best, and indeed, I am the best amongst you in treating my wives.

Allah also commanded Muslims in Quran to live with our wives in kindness and when we dislike them e.g. if they harass us, Allah commanded us to be patient because Allah may reward us with something good for our patients.

•   Quran (4:19) O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them - perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.

And when Prophet Mohamed said that women lack faith, he meant to say that it is not permissible for a woman to pray or fast during menstruation. Once cleaned, they are only allowed to fast the missed days but should not pray the missed prayers. For this reason, her faith is less than that of men because men pray more than women, but God will not hold her accountable because He allowed her not to perform the missed prayers.

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Re: A woman lacks mind and faith
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2022, 04:44:28 AM »
"Nowhere in the Quran is it mentioned that two women are equivalent to one man as a witness. For instance, the testimony of four witnesses is required to prove adultery, and in the Quran no discrimination is made between male and female witnesses, only the number of witnesses is mentioned. However, there is a misunderstood instance described in Sura The Cow, 282, related to time loans. According to this verse, the loan received must be evidenced by a written document, and the presence of witnesses during its execution is required. This is a commercial contract that should not harm the scribe or the witnesses. It is a well-known fact that when material interests are at play, people are reluctant to give testimony. The Quran charges this heavy duty to two men. Take note that only two men are mentioned. A phrase such as ‘or four women’ does not appear. Thus, a woman who rarely deals in commercial affairs, and is weaker in the face of likely pressures and oppressions is protected. Should two men be unavailable and only one is accessible, then the required number would be one man and two women. In this way, the obligation to bear testimony is realized, and should an untoward situation occur later, an encounter between a man and a woman is avoided. Let us assume that a dispute arose about the amount of the loan. The woman, who will have to face one man failing to agree on the amount in question, cannot avoid experiencing stress and pressure. Whereas if there are two women in the picture, they can put up a bold face against the man and the ill-intentioned witnesses will be in a difficulty to put pressure on the women. This practice, which protects women from undue pressure, has been wrongly interpreted and made a generality of this particular case. Except for this particular instance, there is no other discrimination elsewhere in the Quran. Had this been a general principle, God would have made it explicit simply by stating that the testimony of one male witness corresponds to the testimony of two female witnesses.


We have to take note of the statement that runs: “Do not injure either the scribe or the witness. Otherwise you risk swerving from the right path.” The pressure both the witness and the scribe labor under may be imagined and the rationale of the verse can be better understood."

http://quranic.org/category/about-women/

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Re: A woman lacks mind and faith
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2022, 05:24:41 PM »
Peace be upon you,

You said in your post “Nowhere in the Quran is it mentioned that two women are equivalent to one man as a witness.”

I have already presented to you in my post above that verse (2:282) says that two women are equivalent to one man as a witness to loans, but you understand the Quran differently from what is written. Therefore, there is nothing I can do to help you.

•   Quran (2:282) … And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her

While I appreciate that you took the time to respond to my post, I don’t understand why you changed the topic from the brain of women to those who testify to adultery. The reason I did not explain “witnesses on those who commit adultery” is because that was not my topic. I used verse (2:282) just to prove that Allah said in the Quran that if one woman forgets, the other one reminds her, and this proves that Allah is talking about problems in a woman’s brain.

For those who testify to adultery, the Quran says that it requires four witnesses, but Allah did not specify whether they must be men or women, so it does not matter if they all are women or men or mixed. But for those who testify to loans, the Quran clearly says it required two men witnesses or one man and two women. So, what is the relation between the brain of a woman and your topic?

I just want to bring to your attention that when you change the topic, you may cause confusion and distract your readers from understanding the topic.

•   Quran (22:8) And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book [from Him], (9) Twisting his neck [in arrogance] to mislead [people] from the way of Allah. For him in the world is disgrace, and We will make him taste on the Day of Resurrection the punishment of the Burning Fire [while it is said], (10) "That is for what your hands have put forth and because Allah is not ever unjust to [His] servants."

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Re: A woman lacks mind and faith
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2022, 05:57:18 PM »
"Nowhere in the Quran is it mentioned that two women are equivalent to one man as a witness. For instance, the testimony of four witnesses is required to prove adultery, and in the Quran no discrimination is made between male and female witnesses, only the number of witnesses is mentioned. However, there is a misunderstood instance described in Sura The Cow, 282, related to time loans. According to this verse, the loan received must be evidenced by a written document, and the presence of witnesses during its execution is required. This is a commercial contract that should not harm the scribe or the witnesses. It is a well-known fact that when material interests are at play, people are reluctant to give testimony. The Quran charges this heavy duty to two men. Take note that only two men are mentioned. A phrase such as ‘or four women’ does not appear. Thus, a woman who rarely deals in commercial affairs, and is weaker in the face of likely pressures and oppressions is protected. Should two men be unavailable and only one is accessible, then the required number would be one man and two women. In this way, the obligation to bear testimony is realized, and should an untoward situation occur later, an encounter between a man and a woman is avoided. Let us assume that a dispute arose about the amount of the loan. The woman, who will have to face one man failing to agree on the amount in question, cannot avoid experiencing stress and pressure. Whereas if there are two women in the picture, they can put up a bold face against the man and the ill-intentioned witnesses will be in a difficulty to put pressure on the women. This practice, which protects women from undue pressure, has been wrongly interpreted and made a generality of this particular case. Except for this particular instance, there is no other discrimination elsewhere in the Quran. Had this been a general principle, God would have made it explicit simply by stating that the testimony of one male witness corresponds to the testimony of two female witnesses.


We have to take note of the statement that runs: “Do not injure either the scribe or the witness. Otherwise you risk swerving from the right path.” The pressure both the witness and the scribe labor under may be imagined and the rationale of the verse can be better understood."

http://quranic.org/category/about-women/

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As we have seen, the testimony of men and women is equal in all matters and in all areas. There is only one exception and this is explained in the article.

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