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All the western attacks on "Islam" are legitimate
« on: May 15, 2014, 12:36:42 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/15/world/africa/sudan-christian-woman-apostasy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Christian women sentenced to death for apostasy. I urge you to read the comments and see how people feel about this sentence. This sentence is found in the LIES of hadiths. In the lies that the prophet has received another revelation besides the Quran and another source of law especially when the Quran explicitly says it is the ONLY revelation and the ONLY source of law for Islam!

Another sick twisted agenda followed by the disbelievers that follow hadiths. The prophet would be absolutely disgusted by this and he would ashamed of all of these hadith following "muslims". I find it hard to even call these hadith following kaffirs Muslim.

The QUran even predicts this:

The Messenger will say, my Lord, my people have deserted this Qur’an. (25:30)

Indeed Allah and the prophet will be ashamed of his people during judgement day. This means that the QUran predicts that people would have taken another source of law besides the Quran. Do you want to be one of these people?

Punishment for Apostasy in the Quran? NOPE.


The Quran clearly states there are those who believe then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve again. This proves death for apostasy simply did not exist, because if it did, it would be impossible to believe again after unbelief, as they would have been put to death after the first unbelief:

Surely (as for) those who believe then disbelieve, again believe and again disbelieve, then increase in disbelief, God will not forgive them nor guide them in the (right) path. [4:137]

This is further proven by the following verse:

How can God guide a people who have rejected after believing, and they witnessed that the messenger is true, and the clarity had come to them? God does not guide the wicked people. [3:86]

The Quran states, in no uncertain terms, that there is no compulsion in religion:

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God has grasped the most sure hand-hold, that never breaks. And God is Hearing, Knowing. [2:256]

The Quran states that God could have made all those on earth believe, thus asks who is man to enforce such a thing if God did not:

And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers? [10:99]

The Quran states there were those who believed part of the time, then disbelieved part of the time in order to confuse and sow discord amongst the believers of the time. If death for apostasy existed, no sane minded person would attempt to do this as they would be killed the very first time they tried it:

A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back. [3:72]

Please also see the clear example set out in 4:88-91, in which the believers are told to offer peace with those who became hypocrites/apostates (i.e. were Muslim in name only but did not follow through with action during hostilities/fighting in this case) if they also offer peace.

To conclude, it is clear that 'death for apostasy' does not exist in The Quran. People are free to believe and live their lives accordingly or not. If a community or system or any structure deprives its members of this basic freedom, it will produce hypocrites and suppressed people who have no strength of belief or goals to work for and will likely result in a weak system or community. Freedom of belief is the air that healthy and just communities breathe.

The most important thing is to realize that if there is any other commandment besides the Quran, you do NOT follow it. The Quran has made it clear it is the only source of law:

”Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” The Word of your Lord is complete in truth and in justice” 6:115

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Re: All the western attacks on "Islam" are legitimate
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 06:16:17 AM »
Hi Mclinkin, :/ You seems to be very rude.

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Re: All the western attacks on "Islam" are legitimate
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 11:56:02 AM »
Hi Mclinkin, :/ You seems to be very rude.
.                   Don't have anything to say than that?

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Re: All the western attacks on "Islam" are legitimate
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 01:22:59 PM »
Hi Mclinkin, :/ You seems to be very rude.
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Mr. Eye, I neither defend hadiths nor Offend them. So, I was just commenting on the Mclinkin's behaviour.

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 07:01:29 PM »
Hi Mclinkin, :/ You seems to be very rude.

And I have a right to be considering the corruption that entered into Allah's religion. What a shame. This bitterness develops with the more lies and deceptions I see in Allah's religion. Indeed Allah and the prophet would be ashamed of what has come of their ummah.   

Quran 45:6 These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what HADITH after Allah and His verses will they believe?

There is no room for these hadiths and these lies that entered into Islam. This verse specifically tells us that THESE are the verses that get RECITED and that you are NOT to believe in any religious statement other than what is in the Quran.

How about the verses that come right after the one above?

Quran 45:7-9 Woe to every sinful liar Who hears the verses of Allah recited to him, then persists arrogantly as if he had not heard them. So give him tidings of a painful punishment. And when he knows anything of Our verses, he takes them in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment. Before them is Hell, and what they had earned will not avail them at all nor what they had taken besides Allah as allies. And they will have a great punishment.

So I come with tidings of punishment to every sunni, shia and all the heretic sects of Islam--Just as the Quran commands me to.

There is no human punishment apostasy, there is no direct heaven for martyrs, the prophet's name is not to be mentioned every time when you declare that there is no God but Allah , the prophet is not to be idolized, women do not have to wear the head cover etc. etc.....It is a shame that you make laws that Allah did not authorize.

”Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” The Word of your Lord is complete in truth and in justice” 6:115
”This is not fabricated ‘hadith’; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a guidance and mercy for those who believe” 12:111
”We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance and mercy and good news for the submitters” 16:89


In spite of the very clear words: “fully detailed”, “details of everything” and “explanations for everything” the corrupt interpreters somehow still claim that the Quran does not include all the details! Sadly, they claim that the Quran has only mentioned the major outlines of the religion while as the details of everyday rituals are only to be found in the Hadith and Sunna!

These false claims only go to expose these people’s ignorance of the Quran, and also their disbelief in God's words.




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Re: All the western attacks on "Islam" are legitimate
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2014, 04:00:52 AM »
I might stop by to dissect this topic as well after finishing the farce you made at the other one .

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2014, 10:25:31 PM »
I might stop by to dissect this topic as well after finishing the farce you made at the other one .

Oh, I'm waiting to see where exactly in the Quran we are told to follow another source of law. Please enlighten us.

 

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