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Reproducible Miracle
« on: April 30, 2021, 10:58:41 AM »
Gokmen Altay's book about "real 19":

https://bookdown.org/gokmenaltay19/Quran19/


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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2021, 11:21:46 AM »
Nice i searched his name up and he is a google scholar. He has social media where he posts things about number 19 also.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gokmen+altay&oq=gokmen+altay&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j0i22i30l2j69i60.6754j0j7&client=ms-android-boost-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 07:30:39 AM »
The difference from the other classical 19 code is that the 128 and 129th verses of Tawba Surah are also in the system.

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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 02:33:43 PM »
Well I think Brother Osama proved somewhere that Rashad Khalifa removed 9:128-129 in his translation of the Quran but did not remove them in the number 19 miracle calculation.  He pretended to remove them in his number 19 calculation of the Quran.

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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 02:45:44 PM »
Taken from the article: https://www.answering-christianity.com/rk_2.htm,


B. [/b]   NUMEROLOGY THAT DOESN’T ADD UP![/b]
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B. NUMEROLOGY THAT DOESN’T ADD UP![/font][/b]Rashad Khalifa claims that the his “19” code PROVES that 9:128-129 were falsely added to the Quran:[/font]
“A superhuman mathematical system pervades the Quran and serves to guard and authenticate every element in it. . . . ..The evidence presented in this Appendix incontro-vertibly removes these human injections, restores the Quran to its pristine purity, and illustrates a major function of the mathematical miracle, namely, to protect the Quran from the slightest tampering. Thus, the code rejects ONLY the false injections 9:128-129.”[/font]
Appendix 24 of the Authorized English translation of the Quran of Dr. Rashad Khalifa,
[/color]http://www.submission.org/tampering.html
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Unfortunately, for Rashad Khalifa
[/font]“the numbers don’t even add up!”[/font]
Incredibly, Rashad Khalifa issued TWO DIFFERENT EDITIONS of the Quran - one WITH VERSES 9:128-129 and one WITHOUT - and claimed that BOTH had been “authenticated” by his “19” formula!
 
Read the surprising findings of Meherally Abkarally:
 
 [/color]“RASHAD'S FIRST PUBLICATION (1981)
Title: QURAN: THE FINAL SCRIPTURE
ISBN 0-934894-19-1 Library of Congress Card No. 81-80923
. . .
 
“In this FIRST publication the verses 9: 128/129 of the Quran are NOT DELETED. Please note the word "God" (Allah) appears in verse 129.
 
“On page 472 of his FIRST publication, the total count of the words "Allah" in the Qur'an is mentioned as 2698 (19x42=2698).

“In his commentary below Rashad makes comments on verse 128, Later on Rashad Khalifa deletes this verse in his SECOND publication.
 
 
[/color]“RASHAD'S SECOND PUBLICATION (1989)
Title: QURAN: THE FINAL SCRIPTURE
ISBN 0-934894-57-1 Price U.S. $ 57.00
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In this SECOND Publication the Surah 9 ends with verse 127. The verses number 128 and 129 are expunged. In his commentary below Rashad Khalifa declares them as the false verses.
 
“Surprisingly on page 627 below, in his SECOND publication, Rashad shows the total number of counts for the word "Allah" in the Qur'an to be the same as before i.e. 2698.
 
“ALTHOUGH RASHAD HAD DELETED TWO VERSES AND WITHIN THOSE TWO VERSES THERE WAS THE WORD "ALLAH" AS SEEN IN THE EARLIER SCANNED IMAGE, HE KEPT THE COUNT SAME AS BEFORE!!!
 
“IS THIS NOT A DECEPTION???”
 
[/color]http://mostmerciful.com/deceit-one.htm
 
This question is UNANSWERABLE.
 
Moreover, the fraudulent “numbers games” that Rashad Khalifa plays to justify deletion of verses 9:128-129, merely prove that the deletion is purely a product of AHADITH - including numerological ahadith fabricated by Rashad Khalifa himself!
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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 10:27:53 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers Emre and Qualities,

Jazakum Allah Khayr for the links. 

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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 11:43:07 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother...

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Re: Reproducible Miracle
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 12:46:59 PM »
Wa Alaykumu Assalam brother Osama.

 

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