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« on: March 21, 2018, 03:53:21 PM »
There are people that claim to have seen Jesus in a dream.

Do these people know what Jesus looked like to substantiate that it was Jesus they saw in their dreams?
There is various “true” face of Jesus floating on the Internet. This is not surprising as there is no physical description of Jesus in the Gospels, and as the depicting of Jesus was forbidden:

“During the first three centuries of the Christian Church, however, there was no Christian art, and the Church resisted it with all its might…Only when the Christian Church became the Roman imperial church under Emperor Constantine in the early 4th century were pictures used in the churches;” and “The church historian Eusebius…characterized the use of images of the Apostles Paul and Peter as well as Christ himself as a pagan custom.”1

How do they know it was not the same “voice” that Paul said he heard and which voice could have been that of Satan deceiving Paul into corrupting Jesus’ teachings by having him propagate the pagan Son of God belief;4 much like “Satan” deceiving the Christian Fathers in the fourth century into teaching the “senseless, God-dishonoring doctrine” of Trinity?5

Were these dreams of Jesus only the replay of the dreamers’ conscious thoughts?

Jesus was a Muslim and taught Islam; He was prophet of God sent only for Jews and he taught that eternal life lies in following the Mosaic Law until the coming of the Comforter who will bring “all truth” and “abide forever” and whom all are to follow.

The only person Satan cannot impersonate is the Prophet Mohammad; so if you know what the Prophet looked like –and it is doubtful that any Muslim of today knows this– and you see him in a dream you can be certain it is him–(Bokhari Vol. 8, #217; Vol. 9, #123).

Prophet Adam was Muslim. All prophets were Muslims. We don't expect rocks, idols or stones with the picture of God to be found because Muslims believe that God isn't like any of his creation.

Many people have the misconception that Islam started about 1,420+ years ago, and that Prophet Muhammad was the founder of the religion of Islam. In fact, Islam existed since man first set foot on this earth.

“Submission” to God existed since man first set foot on Earth. Muhammad isn’t the founder of Islam, but the last and final messenger of Islam. The word “Islam” was first revealed to Muhammad by Allah, but the way of life of ”submission to God’s will” existed since time immorial. Hence, all Prophets of Allah submitted their will to God and abided by the laws which they had to follow. They all preached this fascinating way of life of submission to God.

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Stephen hawking and god
« on: March 20, 2018, 08:09:28 AM »
Who made the gravity? Who put the gravity as a property in matter?

Can you answer this simple question ?

 All the evidence points to a beginning. And if there is a beginning, then the question of what caused the universe to come into being needs to be answered.

Science cannot answer this question because science trades on material causes, and you can’t have a material cause before the origin of material reality itself. Whatever caused the universe to come into being must be immaterial, timeless, non-spatial, powerful, and intelligent.

Laws of nature don't create itself

The problem of Hawking (Turn on subtitles)

 By using the word 'Terror' for ru'b, the Islam-hater intends to convey the following definition of terror:

        Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes. (The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)

However, the word ru'b does not have that meaning at all. It refers to fright and anxiety. In fact, we can derive a better understanding of ru'b by examing other ahadith:

        The Prophet (peace be upon him) saod: "I was given victory through Ru`b: the enemy becomes filled with Ru`b even though they are the distance of a month's journey away from me." (Ahmad #20337)

The meaning is thus obvious that when the enemies' attempts to detroy the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) failed, they began to fear him as he grew in strength in Arabia and gained more followers. They feared and hated the religion he brought which preached equality and morality and would remove them from their position of corrupt tyrants who enslaved the poor and the non-arabs. It was fear of the mysterious power which granted Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his followers such rapid success. This fear was not the fear that resulted from past combat, as many Islam-haters would have us believe, rather it was a type of fear which prevented further combat. As Jalal Abualrub notes:

        Ru`b ', means, ‘Fear': Here is a list of some of the Islamic resources explaining, ‘Ru`b', as, ‘Fear', and, ‘Awe': Fat`h al-Bari bi Shar`h Sahih al-Bukhari ; Tu`hfat al-A`hwadhi bi Shar'h Jami' at-Tirmidhi ; and, Shar`h Sunan an-Nasaii . These books were written by Muslim Scholars explaining Hadeeths contained in, Sahih al-Bukhari , and the Sunan collections of Imams at-Tirmidhi and an-Nasaii, respectively.... ...Al-Waqidi said in his, Maghazi , that Juwairiyah Bint al-Harith said, “ We were at the Muraisii` area when the Messenger of Allah marched forth towards us. I heard my father say, ‘There has come to us a gathering that we cannot resist.' I saw men and horses in such numbers that I cannot describe. After I became Muslim and the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, married me I looked at the Muslims and found their numbers to be less than what I had thought. I knew that this was Ru`b that Allah, the Exalted, throws in the hearts of the polytheists.' ” There are many similar examples in which the enemies of Islam, who, just like the Muraisii` people, had gathered armies to attack Madinah and the Prophet, scattered throughout the desert in fear when they heard that the Prophet had gathered an army to resist their treacherous attacks. Many lives were saved through Allah throwing fear in the hearts of the enemies of Muhammad, peace be upon them, because his enemies feared him, fled and did not meet him in battle. Thus, ‘fear', in the Hadeeth...saved Muslims and many of their enemies the hardship of battle and warfare. (Abualrub, The Prophet of Mercy, emphasis added)

hence, the fear that the disbelievers had of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) can justly be compared to the fear a thief or murderer would have of a police officer. In fact, a Police officer would desire that criminals fear the law in order to maintain a safe and secure society.

Some crtitics also claim that this narration proves that the motivation of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was money due to the phrase, "the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and placed in my hand". Of course they omit the phrase before that - "While I was asleep". Jalal Abualrub comments on this deceptive tactic as follows:

        By doing so, it would appear that the Prophet, peace be upon him, was seeking or wishing to acquire other people's wealth for himself. Contrary to this false illusion, this was a vision that the Prophet saw which contained glad tidings for the generations of Muslims to come. This is why in the same Hadeeth, Abu Hurairah added, as al-Bukhari and Muslim reported from him, “ Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them). (Abualrub, The Prophet of Mercy)

There are thousands of narrations which confirm that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) lived a simple life in poverty despite the power and strength he acquired as a leader. Here are a few of such narrations:

        Narrated 'Aisha: The family of Muhammad had never eaten their fill of wheat bread for three successive days since they had migrated to Medina till the death of the Prophet. (Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 461)

Narrated 'Aisha: The family of Muhammad did not eat two meals on one day, but one of the two was of dates. (Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 462)

Narrated 'Aisha: The bed mattress of the Prophet was made of a leather case stuffed with palm fibres. (Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 463)

Narrated Qatada: We used to go to Anas bin Malik and see his baker standing (preparing the bread). Anas said, "Eat. I have not known that the Prophet ever saw a thin well-baked loaf of bread till he died, and he never saw a roasted sheep with his eyes." (Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 464)

Narrated 'Aisha: A complete month would pass by during which we would not make a fire (for cooking), and our food used to be only dates and water unless we were given a present of some meat. (Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 465)

In truth, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) never desired anything of the worldly pleasures. His mission was solely to please his Lord and spread the true message across the land, calling people to morality, justice and peace achieved through submission to God.

« on: March 14, 2018, 04:15:45 PM »
Hayliyaada is right im not her to misguide people there was do much i never compressed it down and i realise my mistake but you insulting me is no help to be honest your misleading me by rather than focusing in the problem you are bringing in a new pointless thing.
If you have nothing use full why comment i understand how i didn't post the actual points but really im here to learn.
Just forget it now it causes to much of a problem.
Zakir, you didn't bring a single argument. This threads just waste everybody's time.

« on: March 13, 2018, 05:19:13 PM »
Zakir, believe me. This watch video type of threads is pointless. For the 10th time, say a valid direct point that you want answers for only.

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Islam as a politic weapon
« on: March 13, 2018, 02:43:58 PM »
What makes you weak ?!

« on: March 12, 2018, 05:06:25 PM »
AIDS is a disease of the human immune system caused by the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). This condition progressively reduces the effectiveness of the immune system and leaves individuals susceptible to opportunistic infections and tumors.

HIV is transmitted through anal, vaginal, oral sex, and blood transfusion,

AIDS is now a pandemic. In 2007, it was estimated that 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and that AIDS killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children.

Although treatments for AIDS and HIV can slow the course of the disease, there is currently no vaccine or cure.

Scientists say that due to the difficulty in treating HIV infection, preventing infection is a key aim in controlling the AIDS pandemic, with health organizations promoting safe sex in attempts to slow the spread of the virus.

Recently in a published research, scientists discovered a new type of bacteria which called MRSA.

MRSA stands for methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, but is shorthand for any strain of Staphylococcus bacteria which is resistant to one or more conventional antibiotics.

Researchers believe that the MRSA may cause Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome; also this kind of bacteria can be found where homosexual persons are living such as "Castro district" in San Francisco in the United States. Also they added that the ratio of infected people by MRSA in homosexual men is 13 times than in Heterosexual men.

Doctors say that 20 years ago clinicians began noticing what has come to be called "gay bowel syndrome," a collection of intestinal and rectal complaints that frequently plague gay men. Many of these illnesses stem from infection by fecal bacteria following anal sex--specifically, anal intercourse, analingus, and fellatio following anal intercourse. Some heterosexual couples (estimates range from 5 to 27 percent) also engage in anal sex, and they're at risk too.

Homosexuality and purity

 Scientists confirm that homosexuality contribute in transferring viruses and bacteria between homosexual persons, so that prophet "Lût" and his family were keen to purify themselves and to be away from homosexual people, Allah says: (And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!")(Sûrat Al-A‘râf-verse82), is this verse a sign that homosexuality is against purity.

Today we find doctors ask people to wash after any sexual practice, in Islam Allah almighty ordered us to wash after practicing sex and also He almighty made this as a condition for prayer , Allah says: ( If you are in a state of Janâba (i.e. after a sexual discharge), purify yourselves (bathe your whole body))(Sûrat Al-Mâ’idah-verse 6).

The Way of Allah   

Allah almighty punish any one commits these sins by sending stones of baked clay, Allah says :( And we turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay.)(SûratAl-Hijr-verse 74).

This is the way of Allah which will never change as what happened with the people of "Lût" happened again with the people of Pompeii. 

Pompeii is an old roman city that lived in a lot of luxury. God gave people of this city a lot of graces such as the best crops, a lot of rains and many natural resources. But the people of that city were doing adultery and homosexuality and they were so proud with that. Also they used to draw pornographic pictures on walls in front of all people; researchers believe that art of pornography started in this dissolute city.

One day, people of Pompeii was celebrating  god of fire day , but suddenly and without any kind of warning  a volcanic eruption occurred which released a lot of lava. As a result, people tried to escape but all of them were killed immediately and the city was disappeared .also their bodies were covered with lava and these covered bodies had transferred after many years to be fossilized rocks. Allah says: (So we seized them all of a sudden while they were unaware) (Sûrat Al-A‘râf – verse 95).

Scenes of torment

A real photo for an inhabitant of Pompeii .the body was transferred to be fossilized rock. This punishment is in this life but in the hereafter punishment is strong and last forever, god says :( And thus do We requite him who transgresses beyond bounds [i.e. commits the great sins and disobeys his Lord (Allah) and believes not in His Messengers, and His revealed Books, like this Qur’an], and believes not in the Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord; and the torment of the Hereafter is far more severe and more lasting.) (Sûrat Tâ-Hâ- verse 127)



Another body, Allah wills to let all people see what happened to those wrong doers. Indeed what happened to the people of that city is totally identical with the following verse, God be He blessed and exalted says :( So, when they forgot (the warning) with which they had been reminded, We opened for them the gates of every (pleasant) thing, until in the midst of their enjoyment in that which they were given, all of a sudden, We took them (in punishment), so! They were plunged into destruction with deep regrets and sorrows.* so the root of the people who did wrong was cut off. And all the praises and thanks are to Allah, the Lord of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind, jinn, and all that exists) (Sûrat Al-An’âm- verse 44-45).

Finally, let us read this eloquent verses which tells us a whole story in just few words , Allah says:(The people of Lût (Lot) (-who dwelt in the town of Sodom in Palestine) belied the Messengers.* When their brother Lût (Lot) said to them: "Will you not fear Allah and obey Him? * "Verily I am a trustworthy Messenger to you. *"So fear Allah, keep your duty to Him, and obey me. * "No reward do I ask of you for it (my Message of Islamic Monotheism); my reward is only from the Lord of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists). * "Go you in unto the males of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind), * "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your wives? Nay, you are a trespassing people!" *They said: "If you cease not O Lût (Lot)! Verily, you will be one of those who are driven out!" * He said: "I am, indeed, of those who disapprove with severe anger and fury your (this evil) action (of sodomy). *"My Lord! Save me and my family from what they do." * So we saved him and his family, all, * except an old woman (his wife) among those who remained behind. *Then afterward we destroyed the others. * And we rained on them a rain (of torment). And how evil was the rain of those who had been warned! * Verily, in this is indeed a sign, yet most of them are not believers. *And verily your Lord, He is indeed the All-Mighty, the Most Merciful.)(Sûrat Ash-Shu‘arâ-verse160-175).

« on: March 12, 2018, 04:59:38 PM »

Some absurdly argue that homosexual inclinations are inherited through one’s genetics. However ridiculous such a claim may be, even if accepted for the argument’s sake, it still does not justify the criminal act. Many scientists have argued a genetic basis for a disposition to commit crimes such as burglary, theft, and sexual abuse, yet the law rightly condemns and punishes these acts. Some scientists have claimed that it is programmed into men’s genetics to be unfaithful to their partners, yet society does not deem such behaviour morally acceptable.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. From what I have been able to find: “Up to 1973 the Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) did include ego-syntonic (comfortable with orientation) homosexuality as a mental disorder. The reason it was dropped was not a change in scientific or medical thinking, but that homosexual activists besieged and disrupted psychiatric meetings and intensely harrassed and abused psychiatrists. For instance, psychiatrist Nelson Borelli was at the 1972 APA convention, and noted the following in the BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL: ‘I was there in San Francisco at the 1972 APA convention when the “Gay and Lesbian” activists forced the APA leadership to promise to drop ‘Homosexuality’ from the diagnostic manual or else there would be no APA Convention. Not only the scandal they were causing, but the activists had gained control of the infrastructure of the convention building. The APA kept the promise.”‘


Significance of Moon in Islam:
In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Beneficent

Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon the Prophet Muhammad his family and companions

In Islam ‘moon” Represents authority and supremacy, the Light that shine in the darkness. When ottoman Khalifa ruled there were three crescents in the flag to symbolise three continents.
Moon has nothing to do with religious doctrine or theology.

As you read the Prophesy about Islam in Psalm:
Psalm 89:37 it will be established forever like the moon, the faithful witness in the sky.”

Muslims use Lunar Calendar, even Jewish faith follows Lunar Calendar. There is a great wisdom in Lunar Calendar. It brings a rotation of religious festivals and Holy days around the world in different weather seasons . Those who follow solar Calendar, they have their religious festivals in the same seasons every year!

For example, Christians in the Norway has to celebrate Christmas in every harsh winter. But in Islam, the special days occur in different weather seasons, giving ease and different seasons’s  experience to people around the world during their holidays (each year is about 2 weeks less) . A Muslim special day such as Ramadan fasting, Hajj etc rotate in the months of Solar calendar when it is observed according to the Lunar calendar.

In the Christian Bible, there are moon festivals. But Islam does not celebrate moon festivals. Muslims do not worship or revere Moon as part of the religious life. So it is in Biblical religion the moon has a special status and relationship to their faith. Not in Islam!

See references below :
1 Samuel 20:18 Then Jonathan said to David, “Tomorrow is the New Moon feast. You will be missed, because your seat will be empty.

1 Samuel 20:24 So David hid in the field, and when the New Moon feast came, the king sat down to eat.

Psalm 81:3 Sound the ram’s horn at the New Moon, and when the moon is full, on the day of our festival;

Ezra 3:5 After that, they presented the regular burnt offerings, the New Moon sacrifices and the sacrifices for all the appointed sacred festivals of the LORD, as well as those brought as freewill offerings to the LORD.

Ezekiel 46:1 “‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: The gate of the inner court facing east is to be shut on the six working days, but on the Sabbath day and on the day of the New Moon it is to be opened.

2 Chronicles 8: 13 according to the daily requirement for offerings commanded by Moses for the Sabbaths, the New Moons and the three annual festivals–the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the Festival of Weeks and the Festival of Tabernacles

Numbers 10:10 Also at your times of rejoicing–your appointed festivals and New Moon feasts–you are to sound the trumpets over your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, and they will be a memorial for you before your God. I am the LORD your God.”

Isaiah 1:13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations– I cannot bear your worthless assemblies

There is no rat race escape tactics for the Missionary to say it was a Jewish tradition and they (the Jews) innovated new practices.

Earlier Christians celebrated Moon Festival:

Colossians 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

So it is baseless arguments to say Muslims Worshiping moon gods. Islam says there is no God Except Allah. Who is the Creator of sun Moon and everything in existence.
David’s Star actually Hindu exorcism star Tantric star. Jeremiah 8:2-8, Acts 7:42

Muslims use Lunar Calendar to determine months and years as ordered by Allah Subhana Wa Ta’ala. The rulers used crescents symbols n flag to establish their authority.
There are no moon festivals or special worship for new moon in Islam. Such practices are found in Judaism, Christianity (see Colossians 2:16) Hinduism (see Makhara Sankranthi) and Paganism (see Spirit worships) check encyclopedia of religions.

In Buddhism:

In Hinduism:

The Jewish deity “YAHWEH” (JEHOVA) is found matching with Hindu Deities!.

Jewish Bible Confirm Jews Adopt foreign religion and deities.

See Deuteronomy 17:3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky,

The coming of “David Star” which is Actually “Tantric Star” from Hinduism is further evidence that shows Israelites adopted foreign religions, similar to the Christianisation of the Pagan festivals, the inter-religious customs were exchanged. It is also evident that many of the Jewish tribes lived in North-India all the way to Persia (Iran) and Afghanisran!

So whatever bigotry and false accusations you bring against Islam, is coming from your own ignorance hypocrisy and double standards.

Then you will know the truth and truth will set you free.

(c)  14 January 2017

Were She-Monkeys Stoned For Adultery?
by Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi


An amusing little polemic regarding a hadith that is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari has recently surfaced and is being circulated by some apostates from Islam. Naturally, the Christian missionaries too had decided to jump on the bandwagon of smearing Islam through a misinterpretation of this hadith as well.

The hadith is recorded as follows:

    Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

    Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: “During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.”

The basic premise of their “charge” is that the Prophet(P) had ordered the stoning of a she-monkey, and that lapidation for zina (fornication) is extended to animals as well.

Back to Basics: The Issue of Isnad and Matn

The full citation of the hadith as recorded by al-Bukhari is as follows:


On closer scrutiny of the above-recorded hadith, anyone proficient in the sciences of the Hadith (ulum al-hadith) would immediately see the fallacy of such a claim when the matn (text) and isnad (chain of transmission) of the hadith is studied.

Firstly, the person who uttered the above words was not the Prophet Muhammad(P) himself, but by one of his Companions by name of ‘Amru bin Maimun(R). The following is the chain of transmission for this hadith:

The hadith is categorized as mauquf (lit. “stopped”), meaning that it is a saying traced to that of a Companion(R). Therefore, since it is clear that this hadith is not a saying of the Prophet(P), much less ascribed to him, it cannot be a basis for a ruling in Islam.

Secondly, the key phrase in the above hadith is “During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance”, which the critics had obviously overlooked. While we concede that above hadith is indeed accepted as authentic, we would also argue that according to the principles of criticism of the hadith, the matn of the hadith above would be rejected even if it had been ascribed to the Prophet(P). ‘Abdur Rahman I. Doi has outlined this principle by stating that:

    As far as the Matn is concerned, the following principles of criticism of the Hadith are laid down:

    (1) The Hadith should not be contrary to the text or the teaching of the Qur’an or the accepted basic principles of Islam.
    (2) The Hadith should not be against the dictates of reason or laws of nature and common experience.
    (3) The Hadith should not be contrary to the Traditions which have already been accepted by authorities as reliable and authentic by applying all principles.
    (4) The Hadith which sings the praises and excellence of any tribe, place or persons should be generally rejected
    (5) The Hadith that contains the dates and minute details of the future events should be rejected.
    (6) The Hadith that contains some remarks of the Prophet which are not in keeping with the Islamic belief of Prophethood and the position of the Holy Prophet or such expressions as may not be suitable to him, should be rejected.2

Interestingly, Ibn Hajar in his Fath al-Bari had discussed at length the exegesis of the above hadith. He quotes from Ibn Abd al-Barr as follows:

Ibn Abd al-Barr has denounced this report of ‘Amru Ibn Maimun and said: “It includes attributing adultery to a creature not assigned (with distinction between lawful and unlawful) and implementation of legal punishment on animals. This is denounced before scholars”.3

Then Ibn Hajar responds to the above argument of Ibn Abd al-Barr:

…I answer that the event being similar to that of adultery and stoning does not necessitate that it is really adultery or legal punishment. It is called so because it is similar to it, so it does not necessitate assignment of animals (with distinction between lawful and unlawful).4

In other words, even if we assume for the sake of the argument that the claims of the apostates are true and the above hadith is indeed ascribed to the Prophet(P) , the critics will still not be able to make the charge that the Prophet(P) had ordered the stoning of a she-monkey.

Ibn Qutaiba makes further commentary on the above hadith as follows:

They said: You narrated that some monkeys stoned a she-monkey for fornication. If the monkeys stoned her while she is married, the hadith would be funnier. According to this example, you cannot be sure for perhaps monkeys implement many rulings of the Torah! Or probably they embrace Judaism! So, if the monkeys are Jews, then perhaps the pigs are Christians!

Abu Muhammad [‘Abdullah Ibn Qutaiba, d. 276 A.H.] said: In response to this sneer we state that the narrative of monkeys is neither on authority of Allah’s Messneger (peace be upon him) nor any of his Companions; it is merely something mentioned by ‘Amr Ibn Maimon. Muhammad Ibn Khalid Ibn Khadash told me that Muslim Ibn Qutaiba said on authority of Hashim on authority of Hasin on authority of ‘Amr Ibn Maimon that he said, “A she-monkey had committed fornication during Jahiliyyah, so the monkeys stoned her and I stoned her with them”.

Abu Muhammad said: He could have seen the monkeys stoning a she-monkey, so he imagined that they were stoning her because she committed fornication, this cannot be known except by supposition because monkeys do not express themselves and the one who sees them gathering cannot tell whether they fornicate or not. This is a supposition. Perhaps, the old man knew she had fornicated for some reason we do not know for monkeys are the most fornicating animals. Arabs refer to them as examples of (exaggerated) fornication and say: “fornicating more than a monkey”. Unless fornication is common among them, they would not be used as an example. There is none closer to man in marriage and jealousy than them. The animals get hostile with one another, jump over and punish one another. Some bite, some scratch, some break and some smash. Monkeys stone with their hands whom Allah created as man stones. If they stoned one another for a cause rather than fornication and the old man thought it is fornication, it would not be far. If the old man knew about fornication by some evidence and that stoning was for it, it would not be far either because – as I have informed you – they are the most jealous among animals and the closest to man regarding understanding.5

The points we have made should make it clear that ‘Amru bin Maimun was relating his thinking or perception prior to the advent of Islam – how he had foolishly believed that even monkeys had committed adultery! It happened during a period whereby the pre-Islamic Arabs would indulge in the most detestable acts such as burying their daughters alive and doing the tawaf while they were naked. Thus this means that Islam has elevated the status of mankind by making them more rational and mindful of their actions, a conclusion that the haters and enemies of Islam would certainly not like to admit.

If the above hadith is used to condemn Islam with regards to treatment towards animals, then the Bible has the following to say:

    If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.6

In other words, an animal that has committed its sin of adultery is liable to be punished for a “crime” it is unaware of in the first place, according to the Bible.


It is clear that where the hadith regarding the stoning of a she-monkey for adultery is concerned, it is simply a recollection of a Companion(R) of the Prophet(P) regarding this maltreatment of animals during the pre-Islamic period of jahiliyyah, which is in total contradiction to Islamic principles and norms. Thus, the claim that this hadith is the basis from which the lapidation for married adulterers in Islam came about is nothing more than a damp firecracker hurled by the haters and enemies of Islam. That their view of Islam had been tainted by deep ignorance, hatred, paranoia and xenophobia is no big secret, and this latest polemic is ipso facto a confirmation of their current condition.

And only God knows best.

IS is Allowed to take SHOWER with our Wife

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 1.272 Narrated by Hisham bin Urwa

(on the authority of his father) that Aisha said, "I and Allah's Messenger (saws) used to take a bath from a single water container, from which we took water simultaneously."


Islam has allowed the husband and the wife in marriage every possible liberty to enjoy physical relations with each other, except three:

    It is strictly prohibited to have sexual intercourse with ones wife during her period of menstruation.
    It is strictly prohibited to enter the woman through her anus.
    Although there is no specific prohibition mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah, the majority of the scholars in Islam have voiced their opinion against oral sex, whereby one touches the others private organs with their mouth.

Other than the above three restrictions, one may enjoy physical relations with ones wife any place, any time, and any how their hearts desire.

 Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allahs Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me alone. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.

Your brother and well wisher in Islam,

« on: March 10, 2018, 01:33:21 PM »
Bring his points my dear specific...
So, he keeps making free propaganda for anti-islamic videos despite being asked to bring the argument !

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