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What is Islam
« on: June 30, 2022, 06:24:09 PM »
Peace be upon you,

   Muslims believe that God is One, He is the Self-sufficient One, He begets not, and neither is He begotten, and there is nothing like Him.

Muslims believe that God is not Jesus. Muslims believe that Jesus is one of the Prophets of God. Muslims know God by His 99 names. To name some, the Almighty, the Forgiving, the Generous, the Merciful, Harsh in punishing those who disobey Him, the Compassionate, the Loving, etc. God is completely different than all His creatures.

In Islam, God does not expect people to be perfect, but He expects them to keep asking for forgiveness when they sin. This does not mean that a person can sin intentionally and at any time and all they have to do is ask for forgiveness, it means for those who sin unintentionally. All sinners have to say, “O God, forgive me” but must be sincere and intend to do their best not to sin again, but we will continue to sin. So, we have to keep asking for forgiveness and to do our best to repent.

•   Prophet Mohamed said: Every son of Adam repeatedly sins, and the best of those who sin are those who regularly repent. He also said, By the One in whose hand is my soul, if you did not sin, God would replace you with people who would sin, and they would seek forgiveness from God and He would forgive them.

Muslims believe that God will count a sin as one point and a good deed as 10 points. For example, if you say good morning to your children or neighbour, you will receive 10 credits. If you cook food for yourself or your family, you will receive 10 credits. But if you don’t feed the dog and keep him hungry, you will lose one credit. In this case, don’t you think that God is very Merciful in Islam? Muslims also believe that good deeds will wipe off bad deeds.

•   Quran (6:16) Whoever comes [on the Day of Judgement] with a good deed will have ten times the like thereof [to his credit], and whoever comes with an evil deed will not be recompensed except the like thereof; and they will not be wronged.

•   Quran (11:114) And establish the prayer (at the) two ends (of) the day and (at) the approach of the night. Indeed, the good deeds remove the evil deeds. That (is) a reminder for those who remember.

Only in the case when a Muslim helps those who are in need and donate to them, they will receive 700 credits and God may increase their rewards. What’s more mercy would you expect than 700 credits for only helping those in need e.g. giving a poor a sandwich or a glass of water.

•   Quran (2:261) The example of those who spend their wealth in the cause of Allah is that of a grain that sprouts into seven ears, each bearing one hundred grains. And Allah multiplies the reward even more to whoever He wills. For Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.

•   Prophet Mohamed said: Save yourself from the hell fire even with half a date (to be given in charity) and if you do not find a half date, then with a good pleasant word.

   Non-Muslims believe that Muslims want to force Islam unto everyone. This is completely incorrect. In fact Muslims are not allowed to enforce Islam unto anyone. It’s either a person accepts Islam willingly and for the love of God or God does not want them. God said in Quran that there shall be no compulsion in religion.

•   Quran (2:256) There shall be no compulsion in religion; the right way has become distinct from the wrong way.
Whoever renounces evil and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handle; which does not break. God is Hearing and Knowing.

God told Muslims in Quran to remind non-Muslims only, and we are not controllers over them. This means that we are not allowed to force them unto Islam. God alone will punish those who disbelieve. Muslims are not allowed to punish or kill those who refuse to accept Islam as a religion.

•   Quran (88:21 - 24) So remind, [O Muhammad]; you are only a reminder. You are not over them a controller. However, he who turns away and disbelieves - Then Allah will punish him with the greatest punishment.

God also said that we are allowed to explain Islam to non-Muslims in nice manner only, and whoever wills, let him believe, and whoever wills, let him disbelieve. God alone will punish those who disbelieve, not Muslims.
 
•   Quran (16:125) Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and debate with them in the most dignified manner. Your Lord is aware of those who stray from His path, and He is aware of those who are guided.

•   Quran (18:29) And say, “The truth is from your Lord. Whoever wills-let him believe. And whoever wills-let him disbelieve”. We have prepared for the unjust a Fire, whose curtains will hem them in. And when they cry for relief, they will be relieved with water like molten brass, which scalds the faces. What a miserable drink, and what a terrible place.

   Non-Muslims believe that Muslims believe in “Jihad” i.e. killing non-Muslims. This is completely incorrect. The meaning of “Jihad” is to do your best to achieve the best result in anything you do i.e. when you work for your employer, you must do your best to do a good job; if anyone attacks you, you must do your best to fight to defend yourself; and so on. Muslims don’t believe in killing innocent people regardless of their religion. Islamic law allows the use of force in self-defence and in defence of those who are oppressed and unable to defend themselves only. If Muslims initiate the fight, God will not love them and will be destroyed in hellfire forever.

•   Quran (2:190) Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.

When Muslims fight the aggressors for self-defence and if they ask for peace in the middle of the battle, Muslims should incline towards peace and cease the fight.

•   Quran (8:61) But if they incline towards peace, then incline towards it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knower.

If Muslims begin fight or kill deliberately innocent person for no reason, God will punish them in hellfire forever.

•   Quran (4:93) Whoever kills a believer deliberately, the penalty for him is Hell, where he will remain forever. And God will be angry with him, and will curse him, and will prepare for him a terrible punishment.

You may ask why then Muslims keep fighting and kill each other as we see on TV. Please note that those are NOT Muslims. They are the enemies of Islam and hate Muslims so they use Islam in their fights to damage our reputation.

   Non-Muslims believe that when Prophet Mohamed was weak in Makkah, he preached about peace, but in Medina, as he gained power, he changed his approach to military. This is completely incorrect because Quran was sent to be a solution to mankind to all times until the day of judgement, not only to Mohamed’s time. Quran was NOT sent completely to Mohamed at one time. Verses of Quran were revealed to Mohamed gradually based on the challenges he used to deal with. In Medina God commanded him to fight those who attacked him for self-defence. He had a small army and he used to fight huge armies and God protected him at all times. While God said to Moses in the Torah that if a liar claimed to be a prophet, God will kill him. Quran from beginning to end is about peace, relationships, fighting the enemy if they begin hostile without killing innocent people, animals, gardens, etc.

You may ask about verse (9:5) which Muhammad was told to slay the idolaters wherever he finds them. Please note that God is talking in this verse about the polytheists who made a treaty with Mohamed that they will not fight against him, but they broke their covenant and betrayed him and fought against him and killed many of his followers. So, God commanded Mohamed to slay them wherever he finds them because God knows they are not trustworthy. But if the innocent among them ask for protection, God commended Mohamed to grant them protection. So, please understand that this is not for all mankind. This is the proof:

•   Quran (9:4) Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].

Then God said in next verse to kill the polytheists wherever you find them. This is because in previous verse God said “if they don’t violate the treaty or support anyone against you”, but they violated it.

•   Quran (9:5) And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Then God commanded Mohamed in next verse to protect those who don’t violate the treaty from the polytheists.

•   Quran (9:6) And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

   You may also ask about verse (9:29) which says Muslims are to fight against those to whom the Scriptures “Bible and Torah” were given until they pay tribute.

Please note that this verse was revealed because Jews and Christians refused to pay taxes to the city. The city needs to pay for cleaning roads, police, welfare for all religions, and so on. Then God commended Mohamed to fight them until they pay the taxes. Please note that God said to fight them until they pay the tribute, He did not say until you SLAY them. There is nothing wrong for asking citizens to pay tax and if they refuse, the government should impose fine against them or imprison them. This happened everywhere on earth today.

•   Quran (9:29) Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture [Torah and Bible] - [fight] until they give the jizyah [tribute] willingly while they are humbled.

You may wonder why only Christians and Jews have to pay jizyah (tax). This is because Muslims have to pay Zakah, 2.5% of their wealth tax. If Christians and Jews pay the taxes, Prophet Mohamed is not allowed to fight them or enforce them to accept Islam. He is only allowed to preach Quran in good manners as I explained above.

   You may also ask about verse (8:39) which says that after winning a crucial battle, Muhammad received instruction from God that permanently authorizes holy wars to spread Islam. Please note that in this verse, God is talking about those who hinder people from praying at the sacred Mosque (Ka’ba), and those who pay their money to hinder people from the way of God. This is not for all mankind. 

•   Quran (8:33) But what plea have they that Allah should not punish them, when they keep out (men) from the sacred Mosque - and they are not its guardians? No men can be its guardians except the righteous; but most of them do not understand.

•   Quran (8:35) The unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (men) from the path of Allah and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered together to Hell.

•   Quran (8:37) Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from unbelief) their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them)

•   Quran (8:38) And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.

•   Quran (8:39) If they refuse, be sure that Allah is your protector the Best to protect and the Best to help.

   In fact, God wants Muslims to be friends with all mankind regardless of their religion and to be just when dealing with them as long as they don’t fight us in order to encourage them to read the Quran.

•   Quran (60:8) Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.

Please note that God said in Quran He sent Prophet Mohamed to be a mercy to mankind to save them from hellfire, not to kill them. But those who rejected him and attacked him, God commanded him to fight them for self-defence.

•   Quran (21:107) And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.

   There are five pillars of Islam:

1.   For anyone to be a Muslim, they must believe in their heart and say in their tongue the testimony (Al-shahadah): I testify that there is no god but one God, and I testify that Mohamed is His prophet,

2.   Five daily prayers (each takes an average of 8 minutes, morning, noon, afternoon, evening, and night)
If anyone is disabled, they must pray while sleeping in bed or sitting in a chair but can’t ignore it.

3.   Fasting one month in Ramadan from sunrise till sunset, no food, drink, or sex during this time. If a person is sick and can’t fast, they must fast the missing days after Ramadan. If a person is sick for serious reasons and can’t fast, they shouldn’t fast but must feed one poor person for every missing day (average $10 a day). If a person is sick and does not have money, God will not hold them liable. 

4.   Zakah (paying charity): every year Muslims must pay 2.5% of their savings above $10,000 to the poor. Necessities like house, car, furniture, etc are not included, only savings.

5.   Pilgrimage: any person who is physically and financially capable of undertaking a journey to Makkah “Saudi Arabia” must do so only once in their lifetime. If incapable, God will not hold them liable.

   The reason God prescribed five prayers to Muslims every few hours a day is to keep reminding them to stay away of evil i.e. to remind them not to cheat, murder, harass people, etc. and to remind them to keep the commandments of God i.e. donate to charity, act justly, be dedicated at work, etc. It’s like an alarm, we set up the alarm at certain time to help us wake up on time and avoid being late. God said in Quran that the purpose of prayer is to prohibit immorality and wrongdoing.

•   Quran (29:45) Recite, [O Muhammad], what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater. And Allah knows that which you do.

   The reason God prescribed fasting to Muslims in Ramadan from sunrise till sunset from food, water, and sex is to make them taste the suffering of hunger and thirst to help them remember that there are poor people who are also suffering from hunger so we help them by donating money, food, clothes, protection, etc. The meaning of Ramadan is a name of an Arabic month, like in English January, February, etc. Some people may think that fasting 15 hours a day is impossible, but when you fast for the love of God and fear from God, He will make fasting extremely easy for you and you will never feel tired. God said in Quran that the purpose of fasting is that you may become righteous.

•   Quran (2:183) O you who have believed, decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you that you may become righteous.

Then God said in Quran that we will never achieve righteousness until we donate to the poor from our money.

•   Quran (3:92) You will never achieve righteousness until you donate some of what you cherish. And whatever you give is certainly well known to Allah.

•   Prophet Mohamed said, whoever observes fasts during the month of Ramadan out of sincere faith and hoping to attain Allah’s rewards, then all his past sins will be forgiven.

   The reason that God prescribed to Muslims to pay Zakah (charity) is to purify them and delete their sins and cause their wealth to increase. When we donate to the poor, God will help us find a better job with better pay, so our incomes increase.

•   Quran (9:103) Take, [O, Muhammad], from their wealth a charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and invoke [Allah’s blessings] upon them. Indeed, your invocations are reassurance for them. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

   There are six pillars of belief:

1.   Muslims believe in one God, who is not Jesus, we don’t associate any partner with Him i.e. God has no son,

2.   And His angels,

3.   And all His prophets from Adam… Abraham… Jesus… until the last prophet Mohamed. We are not allowed to make distinction between any of them. We should treat all of them in the same manner we treat Mohamed.

4.   And all the books that God sent to mankind i.e. Torah for Prophet Moses (some of it are currently modified), Bible for Prophet Jesus (some of it are currently modified), and Quran for Prophet Mohamed (which God promised to protect it from modifications till the end of the world). Please click this link
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/22/oldest-quran-manuscript-found-orig.cnn/video/playlists/the-quran/ to watch non-Muslims from England who tested the original copy of Quran that was written more than 1400 years and compared it to the current copy of Quran that we have today and found it to be the same.

5.   And the unseen (we don’t know the future, whatever happens, is the will of God whether good or not, and we must accept it and be grateful to God even if it’s not good),

6.   And the Day of Judgment, people will go to either hellfire or heaven forever. There will be no savoir. Every human is responsible for their doings.

   There are many scientific miracles knowledge in Quran that was recently discovered with technology that was not available during the time of Prophet Mohamed. To name few, there are two seas in the same sea that meet together but there is a barrier between them and the water of each sea does not merge with the other. Today, scientists discovered that there are two oceans in the Gulf of Alaska that meet but never mix.

•   Quran (55:19-20) He has made the two seas to flow freely (so that) they meet together. Between them is a barrier which they cannot pass

   God said in Quran that there are 7 layers of heaven and 7 layers of earth. Scientists discovered today that there are seven layers of earth. For more information about other miracles, please read Quran.

•   Quran (65:12) It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them…

•   Quran (71:15) Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers.

   The question is how Mohamed knew these miracles? Non-Muslims believe that the bad angels or Satan passed these secrets to Mohamed so people may believe that he is a prophet. But, when Mohamed told people about these miracles, the disbelievers mocked him and accused him that he is crazy. Therefore, if Satan is the one who passed these secrets to Mohamed, he did not benefit anything because these secrets discouraged people from believing Mohamed because he did not have any technology to prove it, and they thought he is crazy.

•   Quran (15:6) And they say, O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.

The next question is how these bad angels or Satan foreseen the future and knew that a day will come unto people and invent technology that will prove these miracles if the Bible says that no one has the power to predict and reveal future events or know what tomorrow holds except God alone.

•   Revelation (5:2-3) And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.

•   Matthew (24:36) But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

This is to prove that God is the one who told Prophet Mohamed about theses miracles.

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Re: What is Islam
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2022, 08:43:41 PM »
Peace be upon you,



•   Prophet Mohamed said: Every son of Adam repeatedly sins, and the best of those who sin are those who regularly repent. He also said, By the One in whose hand is my soul, if you did not sin, God would replace you with people who would sin, and they would seek forgiveness from God and He would forgive them.




The Prophet never said such a thing. This fabricated hadith contains a big trap.

The Qur'an says the opposite, that a society is destroyed and changed not if it does not sin, but on the contrary, if it does sin.

And the holy Qur'an says that if a society stays away from sin, it will live a paradise-like life while still on earth.

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 12:21:46 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

I don't know about "repeatedly sins" and "repent regularly".  Now sure, we must seek Allah Almighty's Forgiveness and Mercy every day.  I personally do this, walhamdulillah (all thanks to Allah).  These prayers almost never escape my mouth, walhamdulillah!  But if you sin repeatedly, then according to the Glorious Quran, your repentance is false, and your deeds will be worthless like your false iman (faith) because Allah Almighty will sink them to nothingness (i.e., your time, money and efforts put into your false repentance will not be accepted) for you.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm  (see entry 248).


To all Muslims, if you are one of those scammed idiots who think that if you go to Hajj or Pray one day in Mecca then all of your sins' weight will be either erased or overpowered by the heavier weight of the good deeds (a prayer in Mecca is like 1000000000000000000000000 times the regular prayers elsewhere pile of lies), then I give you the glad tidings that you're heading straight to Hell.  And you will be barking in the Day of Judgment that you were from the weak ones and scammed ones.  But it will be rejected from you.  See Noble Verses 14:021, 34:31-33, 40:47:

[040:047] And (imagine) when they would argue with each other in the hellfire. The weak (in this life) would say to those who deemed themselves important, “We followed you, because we were under your dominion and control. Are you now able to help us avoid some (of the pain and suffering) of the fire?”


Repentance in the Quran requires you to amend and to confess and to make it public and known that you have done wrong and have confessed and amended and paid back what is due to others, and that you have changed, and that you are not going back ever to the sin again.

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Re: What is Islam
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2022, 06:29:33 AM »
Peace be upon you all,

Regarding Hadith “Every son of Adam repeatedly sins, and the best of those who sin are those who regularly repent” I copied the translation of this Hadith from a website and did not pay attention to the word “repeatedly” which may cause confusion among the readers.

The Hadith in Arabic: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: كلُّ بني آدم خَطَّاءٌ, وخيرُ الخَطَّائِينَ التوابون
The accurate translation of this Hadith is “All children of Adam make mistakes, and the best of sinners are those who repent.”

When Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) said that every human makes mistakes did not mean to encourage people to sin. He meant to say that humans are not perfect and will make mistakes. However, he gave us the solution of how to receive forgiveness when we sin by repenting and asking God for forgiveness.

قال الرسول ﷺ: والذي نفسي بيده لو لم تذنبوا؛ لذهب الله بكم، ولجاء بقوم غيركم يذنبون، فيستغفرون الله؛ فيغفر لهم
He also said, By the One in whose hand is my soul, if you did not sin, God would replace you with people who would sin, and they would seek forgiveness from God and He would forgive them.

When Prophet also said that if we don’t sin, God will replace us with other people who would sin, and they would ask for forgiveness and God will forgive them DID NOT mean to tell people to sin intentionally. He meant to give Muslims hope that God will forgive us IF we repent and ask for forgiveness.

The meaning of these two Hadith is in these two verses:

1.   Quran (6:54) And when those come to you who believe in Our verses, say, "Peace be upon you. Your Lord has decreed upon Himself mercy: that any of you who does wrong out of ignorance and then repents after that and corrects himself - indeed, He is Forgiving and Merciful."

2.   Quran (39:53) Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful."

When God said that He will forgive all sins did not mean to tell people to sin intentionally, but He meant to encourage people to forsake their sins and do righteousness.

I already explained in my post how to receive forgiveness e.g. good doings will wipe off sins and every good doing is considered 10 credits and every sin is one point...

You said, “Repentance in the Quran requires you to amend and to confess and to make it public…” This is incorrect. You don’t have to tell the public about your sins. You only have to repent sincerely in your heart.

•   Quran (33:5) … And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended...

You said to Muslims who believe that praying in Makkah is equivalent to hundreds of thousands of prayers somewhere else and you said that they will bark in hellfire…
First, this is not professional to use the word “bark” because the aim of debating the Quran is to explain the truth about God. When a Muslim does ANY good, it’s up to God to accept it and decide to forgive all his/her sins or may not accept it at all. We are not allowed to draw a conclusion of whether God will accept or not because God said in (18:26) He shares not His legislation with anyone. Therefore, if you draw a conclusion on which deeds will be accepted and which not, then, in this case, you are sharing yourself with God, and this may make you a disbeliever, but God knows best. You also used (40:47), (14:21), (34:31-33) to prove your point. Please note that these verses are for the disbelievers, not for the Muslims because it says “They will say, If Allah had guided us, we would have guided you” and Muslims are guided but practice some ignorant.

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with us. I want to wish all Muslims all the very best and congratulate them on Eid Al-Adha.

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2022, 09:01:06 AM »
The fabricated hadith, which contains a great trap, says the following:

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "If you had not committed any sin, Allah would have destroyed you and created in your place those who would have committed sin (but whom He would have forgiven because of their repentance)." Muslim, Tawbah, 9, (2748); Tirmidhi, Da'awat 105, (3533)

So according to this rumor/rumor, if a society never sins, it will be destroyed. But of course this lie was invented to mislead people and lead them to sin.

The truth, of course, is the opposite. Our Lord does not destroy a society if it never sins, but on the contrary, He destroys it if it sins, and He informs us of this in the Qur'an:

Surah Yunus Surah 13 By Allah, We destroyed the generations before you because they committed wrongdoing and did not believe when their messengers brought them clear proofs. This is how We punish the sinful people.

Surat al-Isra: 17 And how many generations We destroyed after Noah, and your Lord is sufficient as a Reckoner and Seer of the sins of His servants.


Surah Araf

4 How many a land and civilization did We bring down. And Our torment came upon them at night or at midday when they were asleep.

5 And when Our punishment came upon them, what they did was nothing but raise this cry: We were indeed wrongdoers.


Surah Al-An'am 6 Have they not seen how many a land and civilization We destroyed before them? And We gave to those lands what We did not give you in the earth, and We sent down upon them the blessings of the sky in abundance, and We made the rivers flow beneath them. Then We destroyed them for their own sins and raised up another generation after them.
 

Moreover, our Lord does not destroy societies that compete in goodness and stay away from sin and forbidden behavior, but rather blesses them in this world and offers them a beautiful paradise-like life:

Hud 117: Your Lord will not destroy cities as long as their inhabitants behave righteously.

Anfal 53. This is so. For Allah does not change the blessing He bestows on a people unless they change what is in them as individuals/what pertains to them as individuals. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing

Surah Jinn

16. And if they had walked in the way, We would have watered them with abundant water,

17. That We may test them in it. And whoever turns away from the remembrance of his Lord (the Qur'an), his Lord will cause him to enter into a torment of increasing torment.

Araf 96 Had the inhabitants of those civilizations believed and protected themselves, We would certainly have showered on them blessings from heaven and earth. But they denied, so We seized them with what they had earned.

As we can see, the hadith doctrine seeks to make the philosophical basis of the Qur'an (Islam) the their wanting philosophical basis by trying to make people adopt the opposite of the Qur'anic teaching (Islam). So who was it that wanted to make sin look innocent to people and used the mask of religion for this purpose?

Surah Araf Surah 11 And certainly We created you, then We fashioned you, then We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves to Adam," and they did so. But Iblis did not, he was not of those who prostrate.

Surah A'raf: 16 He said: "I swear by your misleading me that I will be set upon your straight path to lead them astray."

Surat al-Fatir 5 O people, the promise of Allah is true! So let not the life of this world deceive you! And let not that great deceiver, that proud one, deceive you with Allah.

As stated in the verses, this jinn (Iblis) tries to lead people to sin with various lies.

Surah Araf

9. "O Adam! You and your wife dwell in Paradise, and eat from wherever you like, but do not come near that tree. Otherwise both of you will be among the wrongdoers."

20. Then Satan tempted them both to reveal to them their ugly parts which were hidden from them. He said: "Your Lord has kept you away from that tree so that you may not become two angels or join the immortals."

Satan has been trying to play the same game throughout history, ever since the first human being. If he directly calls people to evil, many people might run away from him, but he captures them with many tricks, masks and by cooking their minds step by step. Pay close attention to this trap. It is set on the right path and aims to lead people to misery in this world and the Hereafter...

And the main doctrine that this genie has been using throughout history to slip people's feet has been Spiritualism/Paganism.

I am giving our video on the subject again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k

 Since the Spiritualist doctrine aims to send people to hell, one of the ways it does this is by trying to make sin seem innocent, even necessary. By making people embrace the beliefs of progress and absolute duality, it has the subtlety to present evil and suffering as if they were necessary to attain salvation. To this end, they have even tried to degenerate religion by altering old  books like the Bible, which was not protected.

But the Qur'an was under the protection of Allah and therefore could not be touched by humans and jinns, and so they attempted to impose the superstition that the Qur'an was inadequate on the society, and to make hadiths, sectarian and Sufi teachings (and therefore spiritism) part of the religion.

In fact, as our Lord said, the only religious source left to us and protected was our holy book, and we should only cling to it in the field of religion:

Surah Al-Jaziya 6 These are the signs of Allah, which We recite to you in truth. And yet, after Allah and His verses, which hadith/saying do they believe in?

We have left nothing lacking in the Book.

Surah 6-Anam 38

The only source on earth that is protected from spiritism/paganism is the Qur'an, and it is by turning to it that we can learn the religion of Allah and arrive at the correct philosophy of life/testing.

The famous hadith/ narration that is the subject of this article, on the other hand, not only perpetrates the corruption of making the world a place of progress and not a place of testing, but also tries to create the impression that Allah wants His servants to make mistakes and get into trouble.

The interesting thing is that this hadith has become so accepted that many people even take it as a verse...

Let us repeat: Our Lord is not destroying societies that do not sin, but destroying sinful and evil societies and replacing them with good and good people. And He starts rewarding those individuals and communities who stay away from sin even in this world:

Surah Al-Anfal

51. "This is because of what your hands have sent before you. Allah is never unjust to the servants."

52. Just as was the case with the house of Pharaoh and those before them. They denied the signs of Allah and Allah seized them for their sins. Allah is the Mighty, the All-powerful, and He is the Most severe in punishment.

53. This is so. For Allah does not change the favor He bestows on a people unless they change what is in them as individuals. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing

Surah Muhammad: 38 So you are the people who are called to spend in the way of Allah. But some of you are stingy. But he who is stingy is stingy to his own detriment. Allah is the Glorified; it is you who are poor. If you turn away, Allah will bring in your place another people. And they will not be like you.

And our Lord says that He will throw the societies He has destroyed and will destroy into Hell in the Hereafter. From this we can easily realize that Allah will not destroy a society that does not sin in this world. Because it is known that the good ones, those who follow the verses, will go to paradise...

Think about it, even a single sin can sometimes lead to a chain of other sins and troubles. As with most wrongdoing, the least should be avoided as much as possible.

Surah Al-Ma'idah 90 O you who believe! Drugs/wine, gambling, stones set up to be worshipped, and fortune-telling arrows are filth from Satan; avoid them so that you may be saved.

Furthermore, the Spiritualist doctrine does another "gimmick" in that it tries to portray not sinning at all as "godliness", suggesting that those who abstain from sin completely are excessive. However, people in heaven, for example, do not sin at all and this has nothing to do with deification (nor does being immortal in the afterlife...):

Surah Al-Vaqiah 25. They will not hear therein any idle talk, nor anything to tempt them to sin.

If a person or group of people were never going to sin, Allah would know this even before He created them, so it is conceivable (if we are doing mental gymnastics) that He would have created them directly in Paradise. That is, they would never experience the troubles of this world. But even in that case, it would not be a question of creating them on earth (in the universe) and then destroying them. They would have already started their life in paradise directly...

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Our Lord commands us to stay away from sin, while Iblis, the enemy of mankind, calls us to sin.

 While Allah tells Adam and his wife to "stay away from that tree", Iblis directs them to the haram with the lie "come closer to the tree, it will make you grow". In the same way, the hadith I gave at the beginning of this article tries to glorify and even glamorize sin.  It contains the same trap...

This incident alone illustrates very effectively why people should stay away from rumors and narrations called hadith. Unfortunately, people are being skillfully indoctrinated with a philosophy that is the exact opposite of Islamic teaching... The situation is similar with the unprotected Bible and other older books, which are now also non-religious.

The Qur'an, on the other hand, as the only protected book, presents the true Islam and enlightens us, and humanity should accept the Qur'an as the only religious guide, i.e. His words, without associating any other book or source, as commanded by Almighty Allah...


(My Turkish article translated with  machine)

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/12/meshur-uydurma-hadisteki-yonlendirmeye.html

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Re: What is Islam
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2022, 01:13:46 PM »
Peace be upon you,

The fabricated hadith, which contains a great trap, says the following:

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "If you had not committed any sin, Allah would have destroyed you and created in your place those who would have committed sin (but whom He would have forgiven because of their repentance)." Muslim, Tawbah, 9, (2748); Tirmidhi, Da'awat 105, (3533)

So according to this rumor/rumor, if a society never sins, it will be destroyed. But of course this lie was invented to mislead people and lead them to sin.

The translation of the hadith you provided is incorrect. For those who can't read Arabic, please copy the hadith and go to google translate and paste it to translate it to English or any language you speak https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=translate
This is the hadith in Arabic قال الرسول ﷺ: والذي نفسي بيده لو لم تذنبوا؛ لذهب الله بكم، ولجاء بقوم غيركم يذنبون، فيستغفرون الله؛ فيغفر لهم

The correct translation is "if you had not sinned; God will take you away," but you said, "God will destroy you". I already explained twice and gave you verses from Quran to prove the authenticity of this hadith but you are still disputing it and providing me with irrelevant verses from Quran. It's true that God said in Quran that He will destroy those who sin, but the destruction is for those who don't repent and ask for forgiveness. One of the names of God is (Saboor = Patient) which means He is patient with our sins and gives us time to correct ourselves.

  • Quran (35:45) And if Allah were to impose blame on the people for what they have earned, He would not leave upon the earth any creature. But He defers them for a specified term. And when their time comes, then indeed Allah has ever been, of His servants, Seeing.

However, the Hadith clearly says you MUST ask for forgiveness. The reason Prophet Mohamed said this hadith is to tell people that you will never be able to do complete righteousness because God alone is perfect and you will sin from one time to another, but he gave us the solution which is to ask for forgiveness and repent. He also said this hadith to give us hope that God will forgive us if we ask for forgiveness and repent and not despair from the mercy of God.

I know that Quran is the only book that is preserved and protected by God, but for Hadith, we refer to Quran, if hadith agrees with Quran, we would accept it otherwise we don't. And this hadith agrees with Quran and I provided you with the verses from Quran. Please read the previous post.

My dear friend and brother, thank you so much for your attempt to explain to me Quran, may God forgives your sins and our sins and grant all of us paradise. However, I will not respond to your posts regarding this subject anymore because I already answered your allegations a few times.

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2022, 04:45:18 PM »
Peace be upon you,

The fabricated hadith, which contains a great trap, says the following:

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "If you had not committed any sin, Allah would have destroyed you and created in your place those who would have committed sin (but whom He would have forgiven because of their repentance)." Muslim, Tawbah, 9, (2748); Tirmidhi, Da'awat 105, (3533)

So according to this rumor/rumor, if a society never sins, it will be destroyed. But of course this lie was invented to mislead people and lead them to sin.

The translation of the hadith you provided is incorrect. For those who can't read Arabic, please copy the hadith and go to google translate and paste it to translate it to English or any language you speak https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=translate
This is the hadith in Arabic قال الرسول ﷺ: والذي نفسي بيده لو لم تذنبوا؛ لذهب الله بكم، ولجاء بقوم غيركم يذنبون، فيستغفرون الله؛ فيغفر لهم

The correct translation is "if you had not sinned; God will take you away," but you said, "God will destroy you". I already explained twice and gave you verses from Quran to prove the authenticity of this hadith but you are still disputing it and providing me with irrelevant verses from Quran. It's true that God said in Quran that He will destroy those who sin, but the destruction is for those who don't repent and ask for forgiveness. One of the names of God is (Saboor = Patient) which means He is patient with our sins and gives us time to correct ourselves.

  • Quran (35:45) And if Allah were to impose blame on the people for what they have earned, He would not leave upon the earth any creature. But He defers them for a specified term. And when their time comes, then indeed Allah has ever been, of His servants, Seeing.

However, the Hadith clearly says you MUST ask for forgiveness. The reason Prophet Mohamed said this hadith is to tell people that you will never be able to do complete righteousness because God alone is perfect and you will sin from one time to another, but he gave us the solution which is to ask for forgiveness and repent. He also said this hadith to give us hope that God will forgive us if we ask for forgiveness and repent and not despair from the mercy of God.

I know that Quran is the only book that is preserved and protected by God, but for Hadith, we refer to Quran, if hadith agrees with Quran, we would accept it otherwise we don't. And this hadith agrees with Quran and I provided you with the verses from Quran. Please read the previous post.

My dear friend and brother, thank you so much for your attempt to explain to me Quran, may God forgives your sins and our sins and grant all of us paradise. However, I will not respond to your posts regarding this subject anymore because I already answered your allegations a few times.

With sincere respect,[/size]

Hi, my frined;

No, on the contrary. I have shown you with proofs that this fabricated hadith is a horrible trap, and you are still frantically defending it, which is totally contrary to the Quran and totally slanderous.

I have explained it in pages and pages, do you want me to quote it here again? Because I see you have not read it.

You have no excuse. I have shown you the truth with verses. Allah says that if we do not commit any sin in this world, we will start living a life like paradise.

But your horrible slanderous statement says the opposite. And I have explained at length why the devils invent these lies. Satan wants to trap you.

God Almighty does not need your repentance, your supplication.

I hope you will break free from the teachings of hadith/sufism/paganism and turn to the teachings of the Quran, Islam.

Please move away from the tyranny of taking religious sources other than the Quran. hadiths, false gospels and false Torah, all contain terrible traps. only and only the holy Quran offers us the truth.

And the verses you have given also talk about the evil of sinning. You can never show a verse that talks about the disadvantage of not sinning. Please stop distorting verses, stop the tyranny of making it look like opposite of what the verses are saying.

Allah Almighty says that if you sin, you will perish. If you do not sin, you will enjoy abundant blessings even in this world. Health, long life and wealth will surround you even in this world.

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