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Title: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: parsian22 on November 23, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
Al-salam ´alaykum wa rahmatu Allah wa baarakatuh brothers in Islam.

This article is totally confused xD

Just read it and comment.
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: QuranSearchCom on November 24, 2012, 07:45:54 AM
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Parsian22,

Welcome to the board, dear brother.  The answer to your questions is located at:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBnumb.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/Internal/qi026.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/burntbrick.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/rosetta.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mosespharaoh.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBorientalist.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/samaritan.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBsheba.html

If you still have questions, then come back and insha'Allah I'll further research this for you.  But the brothers at Islamic Awareness have done a thorough research and investigation regarding this.

Take care akhi,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: QuranSearchCom on November 24, 2012, 07:46:51 AM
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Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran

Really, who can stand the people of www.answering-islam.com ?? :)  I hear you my dear brother.  I know I can't, especially the owner of the site!!  But their website seems to have changed.  What happened?  Did you do anything to them brother Parisan???
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: parsian22 on November 24, 2012, 10:16:13 AM
Al-salam ´alaykum wa rahmatu Allah wa baarakatuh dear brother Osama  :)

Thank you very much for answering.
And yes, you are right, I hate especially the christians of answering-islam.com  :D
They are very dumb! they read the bible and do not become muslims?? what kind of ignorants are they?
Qataluhum Allah!

And I do not know, what happened to their website? Once I wanted to destroy their website.

I tell you anything important, when I was reading articles from your website, I saved many many pages from your website to my computer, like this: right click with mouse/save page... etc..
And I wanted to open your page, but it did not work, no people could open your webpage. So I thinked that must be becouse of me, so I deleted all saved html-s what I have downloaded from you page. And then your website started to work again. I am really sorry for that, I did not know that if I save pages then it will not work. It was one day that your page did not work.

Try to download many pages from anwering-islam.com and then open those pages in your computer, but many times, and "MAYBE" their website will not work, But I am not sure. We can try it :D
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: parsian22 on November 24, 2012, 06:46:19 PM
Akhi Osama

These articles by Islamic Awareness are already refuted by answering-islam.com

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBnumb.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/Internal/qi026.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/burntbrick.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/rosetta.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mosespharaoh.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBorientalist.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/samaritan.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBsheba.html

See here are the rebuttals, but we have not rebuttals!

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman/app_similarity.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1a.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1b.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_2.html

Was Haman the high-priest of Amun?

From the Maurice “Bucaillian” Haman to the [Latest] “Islamic Awareness” Haman: A Case of a Crumbling Argument?

* The Hoax

Stage One: Maurice Bucaille
Stage Two: Islamic Awareness
Stage Three: Harun Yahya
Stage Four: Caner Taslaman (later addition)

* Excursus: The impact of the Muslim Haman argument

* Various Appendices providing further background information

    Who was Haman according to the Qur'an?
    The similarities between Haman in the Bible and Haman in the Qur'an
    The full inscription of "Haman's" door post
    The two versions of the argument by Islamic Awareness
    Hammon & Hemiunu: The psychology of Islamic Awareness
    What Islamic Awareness really knew
    Statements by German Egyptologists
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: Final Overture on November 25, 2012, 10:51:56 AM
Akhi Osama

These articles by Islamic Awareness are already refuted by answering-islam.com

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBnumb.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/Internal/qi026.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/burntbrick.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/rosetta.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mosespharaoh.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBorientalist.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/samaritan.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBsheba.html

How and where?

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See here are the rebuttals, but we have not rebuttals!

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman/app_similarity.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1a.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1b.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_2.html

Was Haman the high-priest of Amun?

From the Maurice “Bucaillian” Haman to the [Latest] “Islamic Awareness” Haman: A Case of a Crumbling Argument?

* The Hoax

Stage One: Maurice Bucaille
Stage Two: Islamic Awareness
Stage Three: Harun Yahya
Stage Four: Caner Taslaman (later addition)

* Excursus: The impact of the Muslim Haman argument

* Various Appendices providing further background information

    Who was Haman according to the Qur'an?
    The similarities between Haman in the Bible and Haman in the Qur'an
    The full inscription of "Haman's" door post
    The two versions of the argument by Islamic Awareness
    Hammon & Hemiunu: The psychology of Islamic Awareness
    What Islamic Awareness really knew
    Statements by German Egyptologists

This is likely a response to the old article, they updated it long time ago. http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: parsian22 on November 25, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Aha so this http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html did not refute this http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html  ?
In other ways the second link refuted the first, or what do you mean dear brother?
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: Final Overture on November 26, 2012, 11:38:32 AM
Aha so this http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html did not refute this http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html  ?
In other ways the second link refuted the first, or what do you mean dear brother?

There is no clear refutation. If you look at http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html where is the refutation? What they did is just provide similarities between two different historical events. How is that a refutation?

There are so many examples, at New Testament copying the Old one. For example, 1Kings 17:17-24 and Luke 7:11-16. One may claim that Christians borrowed their ideas from Jews, but will a single Christians believe in this?
Title: Re: Very Improtant: Refuting answering-islam.com on Haman Miracle in Noble Quran
Post by: parsian22 on November 26, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
Thank you dear brother. I tought that they have written rebuttals against this Miracle in Quran.
But as you say, they did not do that. I have never read their article about this Miracle in Quran.
I just copied their article here, because they claim that they have refuted it.