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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Reminder: the limitation of Messengers.
« on: October 28, 2016, 06:10:13 AM »
"The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver the message: God knows what you reveal and what you conceal." 5:99
"Say [Prophet], ‘I have no control over benefit or harm, [even] to myself, except as God may please: if I had knowledge of what is hidden, I would have abundant good things and no harm could touch me. I am no more than a bearer of warning, and good news to those who believe.’" 7 188
"Say, ‘I do not have the treasures of God, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I tell you that I am an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.’ Say, ‘Is a blind person like one who can see? Why will you not reflect?’" 6 50
Say, ‘I am nothing new among God’s messengers. I do not know what will be done with me or you; I only follow what is revealed to me; I only warn plainly.’
God is very detailed on laws of modesty and inheritence, but according to traditionalist sunnis God for some reason forgot to make all forms of musical art haram and to prohibit dogs. There are also dozens of verses that explicitely cite the Quran as complete, and therefore the hadith collections, this vast external library, isn't essential to attain God's favor.
It is also a natural, intrinsic conclusion, you have to he indoctrinated to think hadith are essential. If the Quran relys on an external library, then i reject it.
And to those who try to cite verses that prove Muhammad's legislatorhood, all i will say is use your head. You need to reconcile them with the above verses AND MANY OTHERS or you'll derive internal contradictions. Im not going to tell you how to reconcile them, do it yourself.
The admin thinks Quranists are a cult of satan, that is scary considering how much time he put into this site.
Peace.
"Say [Prophet], ‘I have no control over benefit or harm, [even] to myself, except as God may please: if I had knowledge of what is hidden, I would have abundant good things and no harm could touch me. I am no more than a bearer of warning, and good news to those who believe.’" 7 188
"Say, ‘I do not have the treasures of God, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I tell you that I am an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.’ Say, ‘Is a blind person like one who can see? Why will you not reflect?’" 6 50
Say, ‘I am nothing new among God’s messengers. I do not know what will be done with me or you; I only follow what is revealed to me; I only warn plainly.’
God is very detailed on laws of modesty and inheritence, but according to traditionalist sunnis God for some reason forgot to make all forms of musical art haram and to prohibit dogs. There are also dozens of verses that explicitely cite the Quran as complete, and therefore the hadith collections, this vast external library, isn't essential to attain God's favor.
It is also a natural, intrinsic conclusion, you have to he indoctrinated to think hadith are essential. If the Quran relys on an external library, then i reject it.
And to those who try to cite verses that prove Muhammad's legislatorhood, all i will say is use your head. You need to reconcile them with the above verses AND MANY OTHERS or you'll derive internal contradictions. Im not going to tell you how to reconcile them, do it yourself.
The admin thinks Quranists are a cult of satan, that is scary considering how much time he put into this site.
Peace.