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AsSalamu 'Alaykum

I think I was wrong:

I mean that system of numbering of verses where present at the time The Holy Qur'an was revealed!

This book,titled "An Introduction to Sciences of the Quran" gives us a lot of information about the problem:

https://www.kalamullah.com/Books/Introduction-to-Sciences-of-the-Quran.pdf

Assalamu 'Alaykum.
Recently there was a debate b.w me,some brothers and some trolls on FB.(*It is still going on,that troll is repeating the same questions which I answered!looks like sign of Victory!)
I will quote parts of the posts and comments.
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This is a part of a Brother's post:

..........For a long time many people believed that Moses wrote the five books called Torah in the Bible. But now it is widely known that Moses could not have written those books in their entirety. One evidence for this is that Chapter 34 of the book of Deuteronomy describes the death and burial of Moses, and how the people mourned for him after his death. Obviously, Moses did not write that passage. Biblical scholars also acknowledge that the present composition of the Psalms cannot in its entirety be traced back to David.........

link=  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1033279793400404/permalink/1119747258086990/

And a part of the troll's comment:

" ........One evidence is chapter 34 of the Book of Deuteronomy and describes the death and burial of Moses and how the people mourn for him after his death. Obviously Moses did not write those passages. Biblical scholars also acknowledges the the Psalms cannot in its entirety be traced to David. I've answers to those questions but do you also have answers to Quran60:13,"Believers (Muslims)! Do not make friends with those who have incurred the wrath of Allah..." Definately it isn't Allah speaking here. It's somebody advising. Read Quran66:3-5,"The Prophet once told one of his wives something in confidence. She did not keep it secret and God informed him of this;...." this is also not Allah reciting this ayah?........

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I made another post in which I replied to all her comments.Here is a small part of that :

...........You are asking ”this is also not Allah reciting this ayah?” and saying “Definately it isn't Allah speaking here.”.
I don't exactly know why you say so,but I think you are confused because of the use of third-person speech.
 It is one of the rhetorical styles of the Quran .
More info about usage of 1st person,2nd person,3rd person,singular and plural by Allah for Himself :
1. http://www.questionsonislam.com/question/why-does-allah-say-he-most-merciful-instead-i-am-most-merciful-quran-why-does-he-use-third-
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIXxkWmw_yI
3. http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=91673
4. http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Grammar/robinson.html

But the issue raised by brother Driss is not like what you are saying.
Christians believe that the first five books in the Bible are written by Moses(A),and they believe it is the Torah. Deuteronomy is the last one in those five books.
Now I am Quoting from Chapter 34,Book of Deuteronomy,Holy Bible,Revised Standard Version.
[So Moses the servant of the Lord DIED there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord, ](Deuteronomy 34:5)
Moses(A) died?Is this the words from a book WRITTEN by Moses(A)?Moses(A) probably didn't come back from death to write this.So someone else wrote this.
[He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. ](Deuteronomy 34:6)
So this was written after the burial of Moses(A).Certainly Moses(A) didn't write anything after his burial.If he(A) had stretched his hand out from the grave to write this and give this,People could have found where that grave is.But the verse says that 'no one knows where his grave is.' ................

(link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1033279793400404/permalink/1126271930767856/ )

The answer is simple.
The use of 1st,2nd,3rd persons and singular and plural ,etc are just one of the rhetorical styles of the Holy Qur'an .
visit the links I gave that troll for more info about this.
Hope it helps.
Salaam.
s.h.o

Assalamu 'Alaikum.
This was funny and there was something funnier than this here:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1194.msg4162#msg4162
Please check it.

Assalamu 'Alaikum.

1)Main question:      WHEN,HOW and by WHOM the Thaurath an Injeel got corrupted?

Other questions:
2)Are they the same as found in old manuscripts?
3)Does the Holy Qur'an say they can't be corrupted?


I have many similar and related doubts which doesn't come to my mind right now.I hope I will get details from here.

I debated with a Christian on FB and I showed him few simple examples of contradictions in Bible and claimed that Bible is corrupted.But he said that the Qur'an says the Thaurath and Injeel can'tbe corrupted,and asked when and by whom they were corrupted,and told we are just repeating what we were taught.
He quoted  Al-Ahqaf[46] verse 30    { "They said, "O our people, we have heard a book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it; it guides (men) to the truth and to a straight path."  }        and said that in Arabic it says "Bayna Yadayhi" which means "Between his hands" and not "Before it" , and said Prophet (S) had Thaurath with him at his time.

I gave an example of Albaqara:66   and told him that "Between his/its hands" is an Arabic idiom which means "In front of" or "before".But he refuses to believe,and says I don't know Arabic.
Who is right,I or he?


When I refuted his claims of Qur'an contradictions using a video of Ahmed Deedat and some links from answering-christianity.com  ,he spoke badly of brother Osama like he fabricated emails and that he was destroyed in every debate by Christian Prince.
And he also said about Deedat:"This guy prayed to Allah to make who ever was lieing in a debate to be made dumb. Only to be struck with a stroke and remained dumb for the rest of his life. Not a good person to follow sir"

Assalamu 'Alaikum
https://discover-the-truth.com/2014/11/08/debunking-the-myth-that-the-quran-endorses-violence-2/

Assalamu Alaikum.
Here is the answer by Ahmed Deedat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkX7-lX1S8

I don't see any first person manner in the bible dude! Rather, there are direct words of the prophets and unknown authors.

Most of the dialogues in the bible are in this format; "And Moses said unto the Lord..."    "And the Lord said unto Moses..."

Assalamu Alaikum Brothers,
Doesn't the Holy Qur'an itself call Surath Al Fathiha "The Repeated Seven(verses)"  -  "Sab'ul Masani"?