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« on: February 18, 2014, 04:54:25 PM »
Salam can some explain the ayah surah 33 ayah 36. The ayah makes it seem as if prophet muhammed takes part in Allah's decisions. This has been bothering me for a while and I hope somebody can help me out.
Sahih International
"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Spider web scientific error
« on: January 31, 2014, 12:01:24 PM »
Salam their is an ayah in the Quran that says spider webs are the weakest of houses but we know from empirical evidence that spider silk is stronger than steel can anybody explain this appearant contradiction

« on: December 18, 2013, 12:12:03 AM »
Salam the Quran describes the mountains as ruwasiya in several ayat can somebody give me the definition according to Classical Arabic dictionaries I tried searching it up using the online dictionary that brother ThatMuslimGuy gave me but I couldn't find it.

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / mountains thrown into ground
« on: December 17, 2013, 01:27:31 AM »
assalamualaykum can somebody explain his ayah surah 16:15 And He has thrown into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it shift with you, and [made] rivers and roads, that you may be guided,
according to the word by word quran dictionary alqa means to throw in the ground but we know from modern geology that mountains where not thrown into the ground

GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Everything created in pairs
« on: November 18, 2013, 09:07:05 PM »
asslamualaykum I need help with the verse 51:49. does it imply that everything is created in pairs or does it say that from everything Allah created he created pairs

Assalamualykum can somebody help me understand the alleged contradiction between surah 14 ayah 4 which states that all messengers are sent to the people of their language and other verses in the qur'an that say prophet Muhammad was sent to all mankind.

« on: October 21, 2013, 06:51:17 PM »
Assalamualaykum brothers
I need help finding the complete definition of the word yukawer. I have been trying to find it online but I have had little luck, maybe one of y'all have access to a lexicon and can help me out.
JazakAllah wa khairan

Assalamuaykum this is part of an ongoing series to refute alleged scientific errors in the Quran
 I have taken my response from

« on: October 07, 2013, 11:52:31 PM »
ahahahahahahahahaha this literally made my day. Bro Osama you might wanna watch this

« on: October 01, 2013, 10:51:48 PM »
Ayy guys I'm opening up this new thread so we can refute each one of the rationalizers claims one by one. I have already found a satisfactory response to his flat earth video by dawahfilms it's called "Ex Muslims flat earth" and a while back we refuted his claims on idhaam instrad of ghurdoof. These neo-atheists think think they have something against islam. Let's debunk every one of his claims on errors in the Quran as I don't see any other Muslims bothering to do it. They have gone long unchallenged and it's time for us to refute him. Guys please contribute to this thread. This thread is only to debunk his claims on errors in the Qur'an not to defend the scientific miracles in the Qur'an. Muslims have left Islam because of him and I believe it is time to stand u to his claims. Inshallah we will debunk every one of his claims.

The story of Omar Ibn Al Khattab (radiAllahu anhu) burying his daughter alive, which even i used to quote, is a pure fabrication that is disproved by historical facts. Omar became Muslim in his twenties and already had 3 daughters amongst whom was Hafsa (ra) who would marry the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wa salam). Of course even if the story were authentic, Islam expiates all sins before it, but history shows otherwise. There is also not a single authentic narration of this story what so ever. The only recorded narration is by a man named jaabir al jufee who is rejected and consider a liar and fabricator by consensus.
Taken from Omar Suleiman
I just though y'all should know (:

Assalamualykum I recently came across this comment about if the quran claims the earth is flat or round. It is by far the best rebuttal to the anti-islamic polemicists.

"In addition to 18:86, they claim that 71:19, which says that God made the earth an expanse (wallahu ja'ala lakumu l-arda bisatan), implies a flat earth. However, the word bisatan means expanse, not flat. They apparently were asleep in kindergarten when the teacher went over shapes and sizes. Flat is a shape. Expansive is a size. For example, a piece of paper is flat, but not expansive. The earth is expansive, but not flat. They make the same mistake in translating and interpreting 51:48, which says that God made the earth expansive (farashnaha).

Curiously, they even cite 79:30 as evidence that the Quran says the earth is flat, even though it says the exact opposite (that the earth is shperical). 79:30 says, according to them, "and the earth, after that, He flattened it, and/or, and the earth, after that, He made it flat" (wa l-arda ba'da dhalika dahaha). They claim the word daha comes from the root for an Arabian ostrich's nest (madahy). According to them, the (now extinct) Arabian ostrich would flatten the ground before it layed it's eggs. Thus, they claim that dahaha means that He (God) flattened the earth like an Arabian ostrich flattens the ground before laying its eggs. However, the linguist, Prof. Martha Schulte-Nafeh, points out in her translation that the word daha also comes from the same root for the ostrich egg itself (dahyah). She points out that in the Libyan dialect, they still sometimes use the word dahyah for egg in addition to the more frequently used word baydah. Thus, she translates dahaha as "He made it egg-shaped". Now, take a look at this painting of an Arabian ostrich's nest from al-Jahiz's 9th century book on animals, "kitab al-hayawan":

Does the nest (madahy) look "flat" to you? The eggs (dahy) do look spherical to me, though. In addition to implying that the earth is spherical like an ostrich's egg, when the Quran talks about the night following the day and the day following the night in 39:5, it uses the verb yukawiru. Yukawiru comes from the KWR root, which means to roll or become round/spherical. The Arabic word for sphere, kurah, is derived from the same root.

As for the notion that "Muslim apologists" only recently started interpreting the Quran as saying the earth is round, the 9th century Quran commentator al-Jubba'i interpreted it this way in his now lost commentary. The 11th century scholar, ibn Hazm, interpreted it this way in his book "al-fisal fi l-milal wa l-nihal". And The 12th centery Quran commentator, ar-Razi, also interpreted it this way.

In addition to the aforementioned Muslim scholars, other Muslim scholars also believed the earth was ROUND:

"Muslim scholars who held to the round Earth theory used it for a quintessentially Islamic purpose: to calculate the distance and direction from any given point on the Earth to Makkah (Mecca).[56] This determined the Qibla, or Muslim direction of prayer.

"A terrestrial globe (Kura-i-ard) was among the presents sent by the Persian Muslim astronomer Jamal-al-Din to Kubla Khan in 1267. It was made of wood on which "seven parts of water are represented in green, three parts of land in white, with rivers, lakes etc."[57] Ho Peng Yoke remarks that "it did not seem to have any general appeal to the Chinese in those days"."

Because Muslim scholars had to calculate the qibla on a ROUND earth, they practically invented spherical geometry:

"Muslims, according to Carra de Vaux, were "unquestionably the inventors of plane and spherical geometry, which did not, strictly speaking, exist among the Greeks".[2] The book of unknown arcs of a sphere written by Islamic mathematician Al-Jayyani is considered to be the first treatise on spherical trigonometry. The book contains formulae for right-handed triangles, the general law of sines, and the solution of a spherical triangle by means of the polar triangle.[3]

"The book On Triangles by Regiomontanus, written around 1463, is the first pure trigonometrical work in Europe. However, Gerolamo Cardano noted a century later that much of the material there on spherical trigonometry was taken from the twelfth-century work of the Spanish Islamic scholar Jabir ibn Aflah."

I should also point out that the Muslim scholar, al-Biruni, calculated the circumference of the ROUND earth in the 11th century. And the Muslim scholar, Ali Qushji, asserted that this ROUND earth was rotating in the 15th century. And here's a painting of Ottoman Muslim scholars studying a ROUND earth in the 16th century:

All of this was centuries before they claim modern "Muslim apologists" began saying that the Quran says the earth is round. This is by no means exhaustive treatment of this subject. It's just what I recall off the top of my head from my study of this subject."

« on: August 30, 2013, 05:33:00 PM »
Their has been an interesting polemic against islam going quite recently that Sharia law requires 4 male witnesses to prove that a rape victim was raped and if she cant bring 4 then she gets 100 lashes.
Here is an excellent article by Danios from LoonWatch refuting it.

Can yall give me a list of  websites that refute alleged contradictions in the quran. I am trying to build up strong respones to what the kuffar throw at islam
Appreciate it!

« on: August 13, 2013, 01:41:31 AM »
Does anybody know of any reliable sources that claims the human body has 360 joints. I was on the article about this hadith on this site and the eejaz source says their are 360 but when you add up the joints they had I got a different number
I would really appreciate your help, this has been bothering me for quite a while now

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