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http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Love-Astronomy/2824243

Scroll down on comments, someone wrote a really long rant on Islam. I have responded (my name is pervertedpope there). It's about: Equality of men and women, apostasy.

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or maybe Adam was a dinosaur

How rude ! Behave !

How is that rude? It's just a hypothesis!

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Ahteism & Agnosticism / Re: Neanderthals?
« on: December 27, 2012, 02:21:12 PM »
Australopithecus was an ape. Homo erectus and Neanderthals are humans. There is no transitional fossil, contrary to popular belief.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Country
« on: December 27, 2012, 07:15:29 AM »
Brother Osama, you have kids?
That changes my whole view of him. xD

Duh he has been married for a while now..

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Country
« on: December 26, 2012, 09:08:17 PM »
USA here :)

Osama Abdallah Abu Ziyad Al-Amriki LOOLLLL.  Sounds like one of those Al-Qaeda titles.

LOL

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Proven by the laws of physics that in the entire universe there are two types of orders in the universe: Symmetry order and Grouping order. The grand order that controls both of these is Allah.

 [051:049]  And of everything have WE created pairs that you may reflect.

In every neutral atom there are forces that leave it in equilibrium, the Qur'an is truly the king of astronomy.

 He Who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any discrepancy in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again-do you see any gaps? Then look again and again. Your sight will return to you dazzled and exhausted! (Qur'an, 67:3-4)

This perfect symmetry can be seen in nature, most notably honey bees who were asked to make honey under Allah's command. More details on this ebook recommend you read it http://everythingforever.com/st_order3.htm

This is why Einstein was a deist!

Look at these pictures and decide for yourselves Atheists!

http://everythingforever.com/honeycombbees.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/ireland.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/clouds2.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/leafdrops.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/cottonwood.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/waterworld.jpg

Orderly Rows:

http://everythingforever.com/bikeflowers.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/YosemiteValleyMistTrees.jpg

Rings and Layers:

http://everythingforever.com/solar_sys2.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-melon.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-egg.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-cells.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-cells2.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-web.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-wood.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/st-daisy.jpg

"Rose shaped" spirals:

http://everythingforever.com/whirlpool-sm.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/modis_strip-tn.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/or-waves.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/logspiral.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/fractal1.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/shell-spiral-sm.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/or-hawaiianfern.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/or-whirlpool.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/spiralf.gif
http://everythingforever.com/or-leafspiral.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/or-cauliflower.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/fractal2.jpg
http://everythingforever.com/spiral2.jpg

Everything:
http://everythingforever.com/spectrum.jpg

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Proven by the laws of physics that in the entire universe there are two types of orders in the universe: Symmetry order and Grouping order. The grand order that controls both of these is Allah.

 [051:049]  And of everything have WE created pairs that you may reflect.

In every neutral atom there are forces that leave it in equilibrium, the Qur'an is truly the king of astronomy.

 He Who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any discrepancy in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again-do you see any gaps? Then look again and again. Your sight will return to you dazzled and exhausted! (Qur'an, 67:3-4)

This perfect symmetry can be seen in nature, most notably honey bees who were asked to make honey under Allah's command. More details on this ebook recommend you read it http://everythingforever.com/st_order3.htm

This is why Einstein was a deist!

Look at these pictures and decide for yourselves Atheists!








Orderly Rows:




Rings and Layers:










"Rose shaped" spirals:















Everything:


Kaaba:

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POLLS & VOTING / Re: POLL: What is your Religion?
« on: December 25, 2012, 10:50:47 AM »
so did sahih bukhari taliban muttawa

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POLLS & VOTING / Re: POLL: What is your Religion?
« on: December 25, 2012, 08:49:12 AM »
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One is not a polytheist purely because he does not accept Abu Bakr as the successor of the prophet.

1-  Muawiyah is still a Muslim.  No one can call him a kaafir.

I just want you to see these indisputable facts.  While I am with Ali with all my heart, but quite honestly, I JUST WISH HE NEVER RULED!

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Right dude, I'll explain. Shiism is DEFINED by Ali as a successor. Implying anything else like they're "doomed to hell polytheists" or anything close is Ad Hominem. Second thing, I don't know how Muslims like you can attack other brothers. Being a Muslim for several months now, I still don't have the heart to attack Deism or any Deist, because I know, they're all my brothers, just like Shi'as. Of course, you can go ahead and add the propaganda pics, but don't blame me when they turn up a response showing Osama bin Laden and the Taliban (both Sunni) in THEIR sites. Btw, I would love to see you refute this, it's a hadith compilation:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12593128/Muslim-is-Never-Sahih

And you attacked Rashad Khalifa as well. He never claimed to be a prophet, only a messenger. He is in no way a founder of a new cult, as when you discover his teachings, you will realize: we are ALL here to spread the message of Allah. We are ALL messengers (see it in  [34:28] of the Qur'an)

Good luck with that "everything else is false" attitude,
peace

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Cults & Deviant Beliefs / Re: No new faiths.
« on: December 25, 2012, 03:43:41 AM »
Brother Osama block this awesome cool dude

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I'm not leaving.

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Cults & Deviant Beliefs / Re: No new faiths.
« on: December 25, 2012, 03:23:31 AM »
True Islam is only Allah, his prophets, and the Qur'an. The hadith stays where it belongs.

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or maybe Adam was a dinosaur

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Earth created in two periods: Quran 41:9 "Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals?..."

Universe in six periods:

Your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... (Qur'an, 7:54)

With this we know, that the age of the Earth = 2/6 * age of the universe
Simplified it says, the age of the Earth is one third of the age of the universe.
Let's confirm it now! 13.7 billion * (1/3) = 4.5 billion years! Yes it's correct!
But why in a ratio? Let's see the explanation:

According to the Theory of General Relativity, "time has no independent existence apart from the order of events by which we measure it."

Basically, time is a perception, and not a fact.

EXAMPLES:

How old am I? 16 years old

Now it is just my perception that I'm 16 years old. The years are calculated from how many times the Earth revolved the Sun. Every time measuring device has some sort of pendulum or ticking. It is only relative to the perceiver.

Our body has no natural system to calculate time. Lincoln Barnett: "Just as there is no such thing as colour without an eye to discern it, so an instant or an hour or a day is nothing without an event to mark it."

Example 2: Dreams

Our dreams seem to last hours or days, when in reality only a few seconds pass between each dream!

Einstein says: "the speed of time changes depending on the speed of the object and its distance from the centre of gravity. As speed increases, time is shortened, compressed; and slows down as if coming to the point of "stopping".


For example, if you're locked in a room with a window where you can clearly see the sun set and rise, you can use this to calculate how many days you've been in the room for. When your kidnapper asks you how long you've been in the room for, you'd think 5 days because the sun set 5 times, but the kidnapper says it was actually 3 days. The window was just projected by a simulation machine and the Sun was moving quicker. Think, is there any other way you could measure the time without ticking equipment?

In the Qur'an!!

On that Day He will call you, and you will answer (His Call) with (words of) His Praise and Obedience, and you will think that you have stayed (in this world) but a little while! (Surat al-Isra, 52)

And on the Day when He shall gather them together, (it will seem to them) as if they had not tarried (on earth) longer than an hour of a day: they will recognise each other. (Surah Yunus, 45)

He will say: "What number of years did you stay on earth?" They will say: "We stayed a day or part of a day: but ask those who keep account." He will say: "You, stayed for only a little while – if you had only known!" (Surat al-Mumenoon, 112-114)

Yet they ask you to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Truly, a day in the sight of your Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. (Surat al-Hajj, 47)

The angels and the spirit ascend to him in a day the measure of which is like fifty thousand years. (Surat al-Maarij, 4)

Then We drew (a veil) over their ears, for a number of years, in the Cave, (so that they could not hear). Then We wakened them up so that We might know which of the two parties would best calculate the time that they had tarried. (Surat al-Kahf, 11-12)

Such (being their state), we roused them (from sleep), so that they might question each other. Said one of them, "How long have you stayed (here)?" They said, "We have stayed (perhaps) a day, or part of a day." (At length) they (all) said, "Allah (alone) knows best how long you have stayed here.... (Surat al-Kahf, 19)

Or (take) the instance of one who passing by a hamlet, all in ruins and quite desolate, said: "Oh! how shall Allah (ever) bring it to life, now that it is dead?" Therefore, Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then brought him back to life. Allah asked: "How long did you tarry (thus)?" He said: (Perhaps) a day or part of a day." He said: "No, you have tarried thus a hundred years; but look at your food and your drink; they show no signs of age; and look at your donkey: And so that We may make you a sign to the people, look further at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh." When this was shown clearly to him, he said: "I know that Allah has power over all things." (Surat al-Baqara, 259)

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POLLS & VOTING / Re: POLL: What is your Religion?
« on: December 24, 2012, 09:01:20 PM »
One is not a polytheist purely because he does not accept Abu Bakr as the successor of the prophet. I find it most ridiculous that you would call another Muslim a kaffir, which is strictly warned against in the Qur'an. Furthermore, "broad generalization" and "ad hominem" are logical fallacies which I thought only Christians loved overusing! A Shi'a is just one who believes Ali is the successor of the prophet. That's it. No more to it than that. You can take your propaganda elsewhere, probably answering-non-sunnis.net or something. I was wrong to defend Muslims. Qur'anists defend Islam, not Muslims. I JUST FINISHED debating with a Christian and I told him Muslims don't hate on other Muslims! I should go and apologize to him now!

Sunnism preaches no tolerance of others. Apostates = death. Gays = death. Non-Sunni = death. Non-Muslim = honored.

FACT: Rashad Khalifa was murdered for being a Quranist in 1990 by a Sunni terrorist group
from Wikipedia:
"His followers refer to him as God's Messenger of the Covenant [lie promoted by Sunnis].[6] He promoted a strict monotheism and was a prominent Quranist, rejecting the hadith and sunnah as fabrications attributed to prophet Muhammad by later scholars."
Hadith was made to divide mankind, all that "Kosher is haram" crap:
Quranists can eat food produced by Christians and Jews, as instructed in the ayah 5:5
Quranists do not hold that breastfeeding a non-related adult male will make him unmarriageable
VIOLENCE:
Major punishments approved and applied by the orthodox Sunni and Shi'a madhabs for over a millennium that Quranists reject include:

    Stoning for adultery. Instead, Quranists follow the quran's prescribed punishment of 100 lashings[8][14] as the Quran does not differentiate between fornicators or adulterers in this punishment, by use of the word 'Zina' (Arabic: الزنا ) in surah 24:2. The orthodox Shariah law applies lashings only to fornicators as per the Quran, but stoning to adulterers as per Sunnah;
    The requirement that the four witnesses of zina must have seen clear penetration during the coitus (though this stringent requirement is rarely applied in practice), as the Quran only requires four witnesses to zina.
    Death penalty of homosexuals. The Quran mentions no punishment for homosexuality other than in a specific reference to prophet Lut's community, a punishment which God alone administers. Quranists instead tend to view that if homosexuality is a sin, that is punishable by God alone in the afterlife.
    Punishment for apostasy. The Qur'an says "Let there be no compulsion in religion" and does not mention an Earthly penalty for apostasy.



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Quran History, Text, Compilation, and alleged Contradictions / never mind
« on: December 24, 2012, 05:34:02 AM »
just remove this

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