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Offline fadi

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Pease b upon you,

I want to prove to you that according to Isaiah chapter 53, it’s crystal clear that the man God spoke about is not Jesus.

   1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?

   2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

The verse says (like a root of dry ground). Jesus came from Nazareth which is a fertile land. While Mohamed came from Makkah which is desert land e.g. dry land.

   3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

•   The verse says a man of suffering… Like one from whom people hide their faces: Mohamed was rejected by his own tribe and his uncles and they all fought against him.

•   The verse says a man of suffering, and familiar with pain: Mohamed’s father died before he was born while his mother was pregnant; his mother died when he was five to six years old; he does not have brothers or sisters; his grandfather who adopted him died when he was eight years old; his beloved wife Khadegah who loved her so much died two years after he became a prophet.

•   The verse says that we held him in low esteem: his tribe used to assault and mock him and they accused him that he is crazy. They expelled him from Mecca to Medina. All the teaching of Mohamed tells us that he perfected good manners, but up to today the majority of people call him a terrorist.

   4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted.

Quran says that Mohamed bores our suffering.

•   Quran (9:128) There has certainly come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer; [he is] concerned over you and to the believers is kind and merciful.

   5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed.

Mohamed was engaged in several battles to defend the believers from the aggressors who used to invade them.

   6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Please note that Christians misunderstood the meaning of (the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all) and assumed that it means a savior who will carry our sins. The correct meaning is that God put him in charge of mankind to preach to them the His law so we repent in order to be forgiving. The proof that Christians misunderstood the meaning of savior is in Ezekiel which says that a wicked man needs to turn from his sins and repent and do righteous in order to be forgiving. It did NOT say that you need another person (savior) to carry our sins.

•   Ezekiel (18:21) “But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 “All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live.

•   Ezekiel (18:30) “Therefore, I will judge each of you, O people of Israel, according to your actions, says the Sovereign LORD. Repent, and turn from your sins. Don’t let them destroy you!

God commanded Mohamed to convey His message (Quran) to mankind, and God warned Mohamed that if he does not convey the message, God will hold him liable for the sins of humanity. But Mohamed conveyed the message.

•   Quran (5:67) O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.

   7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

As I said in verse 5 above that Mohamed was engaged in several battles, and also his tribe used to assault him and they wounded him, yet he did not complain or opened his mouth. When the angel came to him and asked his permission to destroy the city on the wicked, Mohamed refused and told the angel that perhaps their offspring may become believers.

•   Children in Ta'if stoned the Prophet and caused his blood to flow. Whilst he sat and cried, an angel came seeking his permission to destroy the city but he tearfully said, "No, for I have hope that their offspring shall believe

   8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.

The verse says that he was cut off from the land of the living: When Mohamed and his followers couldn’t handle the aggression of his tribe, he escaped from Makkah to Medina.

   9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.

This is one crystal clear evidence that God was not talking about Jesus in this verse. The verse says that he was assigned a grave with the wicked, but Jesus does not have a grave on earth because he rose. However, Mohamed has a grave and he was buried with the wicked who rejected him and assaulted him.

   10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

This is another crystal clear evidence that God was not talking about Jesus in this verse. The verse says that he will see his offspring, but Jesus does not have children while Mohamed has.

   11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.

The meaning of (he will bear their iniquities) is that he will be patient from their assaults against him because verse 7 above says that he was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth.

   12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

I already explained the meaning of (he bore the sin of many) above, and the meaning of (made intercession for the transgressors) is that God granted him intercession to take out of hellfire anyone who associated none with God.

•   Prophet Mohamed said: …When I see Him (God), I will fall down in prostration before Him, and will remain in prostration as long as He will, and then He will say, “Raise your head, O Muhammad, and speak, for you will be listened to, and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted, and ask, for your request will be granted.” So I will raise my head and praise Allah as He has taught me and then I will intercede and He will put a limit for me (to intercede for a certain type of people). I will take them out of hellfire and let them enter Paradise, till none will remain in the Fire except those whom Quran will imprison (i.e., those who are destined for eternal life in the fire)…
Sahih al-Bukhari 7440

As verse 9 above says that he was assigned a grave, and Jesus does not have any grave on earth, therefore, Christians have no excuse not to believe that God was talking about another man. Please send this message to all your Christian friends that perhaps God may guide them and you will receive the reward.

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Re: Proof from Isaiah chapter 53 that the man God spoke about is NOT Jesus
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2023, 04:18:18 PM »
As-salam aleikum wa rahmatullah,

I'm happy to see a brother who have a courage and creative mind to interpret Isaiah 53 as refering to Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). And yes, based on my analysis I can confirm that Isaiah 53 is indeed, paradoxically, about Rasulullah (ﷺ), not Jesus (AS). After I finish Isaiah 29:12 (God willing), I will show insha'Allah in few points how Isaiah 53 actually depicts Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), and especially one detail alludes to him in a truly spectacular way.

Take care,
Idris (Ahmed)

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Re: Proof from Isaiah chapter 53 that the man God spoke about is NOT Jesus
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Re: Proof from Isaiah chapter 53 that the man God spoke about is NOT Jesus
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2023, 09:39:31 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Welcome back akhi Idris.  I wanted to point out that we have to be mindful that not every Prophecy is necessarily about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  The OT makes prophecies about two Prophets to come, and like the ones about the Prophet who will come from Arabia, and demolish the idols through Holy Wars against the pagans, establish GOD's House and Covenant in Arabia, - who is Prophet Muhammad, - there are also ones about the coming Messiah, who will be born in Bethlehem.  Jesus perfectly fulfilled this:

Micah 5:2
But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, are only a small village among all the people of Judah. Yet a ruler of Israel, whose origins are in the distant past, will come from you on my behalf.

Matthew 2:6
‘And you, O Bethlehem in the land of Judah, are not least among the ruling cities of Judah, for a ruler will come from you who will be the shepherd for my people Israel.’”

Matthew 2:1
Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the reign of King Herod. About that time some wise men from eastern lands arrived in Jerusalem, asking,


Now Prophet Muhammad certainly has ample Prophecies in the OT and NT:  www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm



In regards to Isaiah 53, it doesn't talk about GOD Almighty will come down and be a suffering servant like the invented christianity claims.  All it issaying is that the Prophet-to-come will suffer from the Jews' plots and wickedness, but GOD Almighty in the end will save him from harm and death:

www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm




Mary and Jesus thanked GOD:

In Psalm 116:16, Jesus and his mother thanked GOD for saving Jesus from death and harm.  See Psalm 91:3, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 15.  So Isaiah 53 could be talking about Jesus.  I personally have no issues with it at all, and I don't see in it support for the false religion of satan, christianity; that he will die for our sins and rise on the third day.  The NT and OT thoroughly refute christianity's lies. 

www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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