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Offline Ramihs97

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The Sun Stops ?
« on: October 28, 2016, 07:29:26 AM »
And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. ????

https://quran.com/36:38

It says they swim in an orbit after  but how does the sun stop ? I can't see how this is directly referring to judgement day ??

Much appreciated this really confused me

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Re: The Sun Stops ?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2016, 07:52:17 AM »
Well i found this

Its fixed course is beneath the Throne.)'' (The second view) is that this refers to when the sun's appointed time comes to an end, which will be on the Day of Resurrection, when its fixed course will be abolished, it will come to a halt and it will be rolled up. This world will come to an end, and that will be the end of its appointed time. This is the fixed course of its time. Qatadah said:

﴿لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَـا﴾

(on its fixed course for a term (appointed).) means, "It has an appointed time and it will not go beyond that.'' It was also said that this means, it keeps moving in its summer orbit for a certain time, and it does not exceed that, then it moves to its winter orbit for a certain time, and it does not exceed that. This was narrated from `Abdullah bin `Amr, may Allah be pleased with him. Ibn Mas`ud and Ibn `Abbas, may Allah be pleased with them, recited this Ayah as: (وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لَامُسْتَقَرَّ لَهَا) (And the sun runs with no fixed course for a term,) meaning that it has no destination and it does not settle in one place, rather it keeps moving night and day, never slowing down or stopping, as in the Ayah:

﴿وَسَخَّر لَكُمُ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ دَآئِبَينَ﴾

(And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses, to be of service to you) (14:33). which means, they will never slow down or stop, until the Day of Resurrection.



Then why the hell would the sahih international write it as towards "its stopping point" ??!?!?

Also, although ibn kathir referred to it being on judgement day,why doesnt it say so in the surah ?

Help needed guys

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Re: The Sun Stops ?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2016, 02:02:42 PM »
 Assalamu alaikum brother Rami (you know who I am),

The tafsir for this verse is this hadith:

Narrated Abu Dharr: The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Messenger know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun is quickly proceeding towards its destination. That is the designing of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing. " (36.38)
(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Hadith 421)


 Now does this hadith contradict science? Nope! Check this article out:

http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/sun-prostration-throne-hadith-explained.html?m=1

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Re: The Sun Stops ?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2016, 08:29:17 AM »
@Muslim1 When you say it with the Hadiths and other translations it makes sense. But when they say "it reaches its stopping point" is ridiculous! 

It makes it sound like the sun stops when it's constantly orbiting as the succeeding verses say !

 

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