Author Topic: Rebuttal Needed: Debunking the 6555 sura, 6236 ayat, odd-even mathematical mirac  (Read 10216 times)

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As'salamu Alaikum,

For the reader, please visit the following links to see the hundreds of STUNNING Scientific and Numerical Miracles that testify to the Glorious Quran's Divinity:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/odd_even_miracle.xls


There insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty), you'll see everything you need to see about this Great Miracle.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Assalamu alaikum
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The simplest point is that both the quantities are not equal.See

https://rebuttaltoansweringislam.wordpress.com/


And anyone who needs some rebuttal could easily ask me here,in this blog.

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This so called 19 miracle is just NONSENSE!

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This so called 19 miracle is just NONSENSE!

Allah Almighty Said that it is one of the GREATEST Miracles of the Glorious Quran.  Have you seen the 100s of examples that were found in the Glorious Quran that testify to the Divinity of the Holy Book?  Also, other great Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran were found.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


Please go through the first link that I gave and then come back and let me know if you still think its a bunch of nonsense. 

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Allah Almighty Said that it is one of the GREATEST Miracles of the Glorious Quran.  Have you seen the 100s of examples that were found in the Glorious Quran that testify to the Divinity of the Holy Book?  Also, other great Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran were found.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


Please go through the first link that I gave and then come back and let me know if you still think its a bunch of nonsense. 

Take care,
Osama Abdallah



Yes Holy Quran do have numerical miracles but the way people use nineteen is not miracle. I mean just because something is multiple of nineteen is not a miracle. Why 6236 (# of verse) is not divisible by 19? Why 286 (longest chapter) is not divisible by 19? Why 98 (# of verses in 19th chapter) is not divisible by 19?
Maybe 19 is a miracle but its not like we are thinking there are a lot of things in Quran which are not multiple of 19. And Quran is a linguistic miracle too people should try to look that kind of miracles.
For example see how beautifully Allah talked about judgement day in Surah 69!


069:014 And the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow -
069:015 Then on that Day, the Resurrection will occur,
069:016 And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm.
069:017 And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them].
069:018 That Day, you will be exhibited [for judgement]


First Allah Almighty mentioned Earth (ground) then he mentioned something higher Mountains then something more higher sky then something higher Angels then something more higher Throne (of Allah) and then more higher Your Lord (Allah).
Allah placed things from low to high object thats why i kept increasing the size of text!

And in Surah 57:20 Allah summarized our entire life in just one verse!

-Surah 57;20
"Know that the life of this world is only play (لعب) and amusement (لهو) pomp/beauty (زينة) mutual boasting among you (تفا خر) and Rivalry in respect of wealth and children(تَكَاثُرٌ فِي الْأَمْوَالِ وَالْأَوْلَاد)."

-We start as toddlers. This verse starts with play(لعب) which toddlers are engrossed in, it is most important to them.

-Then when we get a little older we need entertainment to keep us busy – amusement(لهو).

-A little later in our teens we are obsessed with pomp, or appearance and how beautiful/attractive things look (زينة).

-Then as we get independent and make money we deal with urges to show off (boasting – تفا خر).

-Then we get married and have kids (rivalry in wealth and children تَكَاثُرٌ فِي الْأَمْوَالِ وَالْأَوْلَادِ).


People should search these kind of things from Quran rather than multiples of 19. Allah know whats the miracle of 19 but its probably not multiples of 19 like Rashad Khalifa did.

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As'salamu Alaikum,

Brother, I would appreciate it if you just take the time to read the first link that I gave you, because Rashad Khalifa has nothing to do with any of this.  Look at newly discovered patterns and Miracles of the number 19 in the Glorious Quran before you put them down.  Here are some examples.  The link again is:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm

The following are from the article:

3-  Also, Allah Almighty used other sets of Noble Verses to determine the Numerical values (see the main table) of each written Letter in the Holy Quran.  This is can be clearly seen in the following examples:

Prophet Nuh's story with his people in Noble Verses 11:25:49.  These Noble Verses are in Surat Hud, which is Chapter 11 in the Holy Quran:

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0268.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0269.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0270.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0271.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0272.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0273.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0274.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0275.jpg  (Perfect match)
   
Further proofs:
 http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0276.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0277.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0278.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0279.jpg

The NOORANIYYAH Letters, or the Noorani Letters of the Holy Quran.  These are the opening Letters of several of the Noble Surahs (Chapters) that have hidden Divine meanings in them.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone!  Now adding all of them together, using the  main table's values, gave us a total that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  Not only that, but their total number is 361, which is equal to  19 X 19:

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0138.jpg

Adding all of the numerical values of the  Prophets' and Messengers' names that were mentioned in the Holy Quran also all add up to a number that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder:

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0236.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0237.jpg

There are many other examples that Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي gave in his book (Again, if you see gibberish, then install these required fonts & instruction.  My Sony Vaio laptop didn't require them.  My other older computers did.  The fonts on my Sony Vaio also seem a bit better than these ones.  So please only install them if you see gibberish).

Furthermore,  the total numerical value of Noble Verses  74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115):   19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means  "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task:

The following links are the original images from the PDF book of Noble Verses 74:30-37 and the  Basmala.  Also, the link to the PDF book is in the following as well:

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_surah_74_verses_30-37_original.png
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_basmala_is_quran_key.png
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

The following images are my calculation, and they end up exactly with  2185, which equal to  19 X 115:

 http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0132.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0133.jpg
  http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0134.jpg

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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And I don't care how the heretic Quranies use the number 19 Miracle.  It doesn't matter.  The Miracle is still there.

 

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