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Title: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on December 29, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
AsalamuAlaikum,

This is something that ive encountered a few times now. And im shocked due to it being utterly baseless and against all the facts.

In response to this ive written the following article detailing how Safiyyah choose to marry the Prophet (SAW) and the beautiful relationship that they shared. You are free to use this and copy and paste or upload anywhere else you wish online.

Make sure to check it out:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on December 30, 2013, 09:28:35 AM
Assalamualykum.


 Excellent refutation brother!!!!!!!! Keep up. ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on December 30, 2013, 09:31:29 AM
Assalamualykum.


 Excellent refutation brother!!!!!!!! Keep up. ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

Jazak Allah Khairan. Should shut up Ali Sina and the others ignorant of history.

I mean some of the accusations people come out with just shows there irrational hate of Islam.

Sadly the unwise parrot there articles has ive encountered 3+ times now.
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on December 30, 2013, 09:37:40 AM
Okay brother one question why does Muhammad(PBUH) ask Hazrat Safiyya to say:

''.....How can you better than I, when my father is Aaron, my uncle is Moses and my husband is Muhammad.''[Al-Istee'ab 3439 and At-Tirmidhi 3893]


 How can her uncle be Hadhrat Musa (AS) and father be Hadhrat Auron(AS)? Brother please clarify this.

And keep up your good job.  May Allah bless you.Ameen
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on December 30, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
Okay brother one question why does Muhammad(PBUH) ask Hazrat Safiyya to say:

''.....How can you better than I, when my father is Aaron, my uncle is Moses and my husband is Muhammad.''[Al-Istee'ab 3439 and At-Tirmidhi 3893]


 How can her uncle be Hadhrat Musa (AS) and father be Hadhrat Auron(AS)? Brother please clarify this.

And keep up your good job.  May Allah bless you.Ameen
People were mocking Safiyyah (RA) for being Jewish. Mainy Hafsa and Aisha who thought they were better as they were from Quraysh. They still had some Jahyliah (pre islam) ignorance in them.

So the prophet told her to reply with that. Basicly to smash them and say that she is more prestigous.

Safiyyah (RA) was Jewish. She is decendant of the line of Aarun. Meaning her forefather was Aarun. Aaruns brother was Moses.

Saying "Father" and "Uncle" refers to her ancestors.

Hope this made sense.

Basicly saying she is a decendant of a prophet, related to a prophet and married to a prophet.
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on December 31, 2013, 08:46:16 AM
Assalamualykum.

 Thanks for clearing up everything ;D ;D ;D.  May Allah bless you. Ameen
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 31, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
AsalamuAlaikum,

This is something that ive encountered a few times now. And im shocked due to it being utterly baseless and against all the facts.

In response to this ive written the following article detailing how Safiyyah choose to marry the Prophet (SAW) and the beautiful relationship that they shared. You are free to use this and copy and paste or upload anywhere else you wish online.

Make sure to check it out:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

I just post a message under your article in your blog.  Great work, dear brother!  Jazaka Allah Khayr.  Keep up the great work akhi.  We need more articles like these.  I will link your article along with other brothers' articles that they've linked on the website, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on February 24, 2014, 06:35:43 AM
AsalamuAlaikum.

Ive added more resources to the blog.

Could this be added to the next update brother Osama?
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 24, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
AsalamuAlaikum.

Ive added more resources to the blog.

Could this be added to the next update brother Osama?

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

I will get to it by this weekend, insha'Allah.  I am sorry for taking too long.  Please also feel free to post the updates under the "Open Defects" thread.  But either way, I will get to your posts and all other posts by this weekend, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on April 01, 2014, 06:09:53 PM
AsalamuAlaikum,

Any chance the article could be added to the site akhi.

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html

I was thinking maybe at the top of the following article:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/safiyyah_the_wife_of_the_prophet.htm

In sha Allah.
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: shabeer_hassan on April 02, 2014, 07:00:13 AM
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on June 21, 2014, 02:30:59 AM
Hello i still don't know how she agreed to accept Islam and married the Prophet after her family was killed please ANSWER ME so i can tell others :(
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on June 21, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on September 17, 2014, 12:48:24 PM
When i told the critics that her Husband used to beat her then he replied,

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Her husband was not only killed but her family and friends were also killed by the Muslims do you still think that she fell in love? Open your eyes!


ThatMuslimGuy how should i respond this? Ahm...
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on September 18, 2014, 08:44:12 AM
When i told the critics that her Husband used to beat her then he replied,

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Her husband was not only killed but her family and friends were also killed by the Muslims do you still think that she fell in love? Open your eyes!

ThatMuslimGuy how should i respond this? Ahm...

As'salamu Alaikum,

I don't agree with everything that is written in our sources from history, unless it has confirmation or validity from other stronger outside sources such as the Glorious Quran or the parts of the Bible that agree with the Glorious Quran, or anything of that sort.  Otherwise, it is easy to be biased and write something that favors the Prophet, even if it's not true.

Whether Safiyyah loved the Prophet or not, it has no value on whether Islam is the Divine Truth or not.  Harems and spoils of war existed throughout all of humanity's history, and it is certainly in the Bible and outside the Bible.  I know where the source of the garbage that is raised to you comes from.  I would like you to route your Islam-hating missionaries to the following to read from their own Bible:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm



Why were David's wives turned into prostitutes by GOD Almighty?

Here is one lovely question for you to ask those Islam-hating doomed-to-Hell infidels:  Why did GOD Almighty turn David's wives into prostitutes as a punishment for David's adultery with Bethsheba?  What fault were the wives at?  Why did they have to be turned into prostitutes by GOD Almighty in order to punish David?  Isn't this legalizing prostitution by GOD Almighty when it is strictly forbidden in the Bible? 

And isn't this like a childhood priest sodomizing one of those missionaries who posed their nonsense to you, and the priest's children were in turn made to be sodomized, while the priest himself was left unpunished?

Again, visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

Now don't get me wrong here.  If GOD Almighty allowed this, then I would have no issue with it.  After all, I am nothing but a creation of GOD Almighty, and I am a nobody to question GOD Almighty's Divine Will and Wisdom.  But I would like you to see the hypocrisy of the missionaries when they try to answer this for you.

They say that Muhammad is false because he married Safiyyah after killing her family in battle.  Let us see what will their answer be about turning David's wives into prostitutes as a punishment for David's adultery, by GOD Almighty Himself according to the Bible.

And last and not least, to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles and clear proofs of Its Divine Origins, please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


And one last point on Safiyyah:

It would make sense that Safiyyah would choose the Prophet over any other man.  After all, why not pick the best?  I would not necessarily agree that she LOVED the Prophet.  But whether she did or not, the fact remains that she was a spoil of war, - a slave, - and she had to be given to some man for a harem to be his slave.  So her being given to the Prophet out of the many other women who were not given to the Prophet was honorable enough for her, especially when the Prophet, peace be upon him, MARRIED HER IN HONOR TO HER.

Like I said, and as shown above in the discussion, the Prophet married Safiyyah.  But even if he never did marry her, it still wouldn't mean a thing.  Even if she was never given the honor to marry the Prophet, and was only kept as a slave and as a spoil of war and as a harem, it still wouldn't mean a thing one way or another.  The polytheist Trinitarian pagans' Bible commanded the killing of all humans where were taken captives after wars.  At least Islam never commanded that:

[076:008]  And for the sake of His (Allah) love, they feed the poor (and needy), the orphans and the captives.

Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/captives.htm

As to what the Bible's commands to kill all children, and all adults, and even all animals and plants, again, visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

The doomed-to-Hell Islam-hating infidels have nothing but noise on Islam.




And what if it truly dawned on her?

And what if the Truth of the Prophet being the Seal of the Prophets, and the expected Prophet that the Jews of Arabia were expecting has finally dawned on her and she truly became a believer?  But whether she became a believer, and loved the Prophet, or not, it really matters not.  Our sources say that she finally became a believer and loved the Prophet.  The infidels of today say that was not ture.  Either way, it has no effect on whether Islam is the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty or not.  So even if we take their worst case scenario, and that Safiyyah was no more than a slave whom the Prophet married and nothing more, then it still has no effect on Islam and Its Divine Truth.

Again, the doomed-to-Hell Islam-hating infidels have nothing but noise on Islam.  Don't let them penetrate your skin.  Again, visit the following link to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Also, visit the website's main capsule to THOROUGHLY see how Islam is GOD Almighty's Original Religion to all of mankind, even according to the Bible itself:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on September 19, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
When i told the critics that her Husband used to beat her then he replied,

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Her husband was not only killed but her family and friends were also killed by the Muslims do you still think that she fell in love? Open your eyes!


ThatMuslimGuy how should i respond this? Ahm...

AsalamuAlaikum,

Brother. Respond with what simply Safiyah herself said. That she had fallen in love. And that she openly chose to marry him.

She had the choice to go back to her people. But she decided to stay with the Prophet SAW.

Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Syed Aman on September 19, 2014, 10:06:15 AM
LET ME TURN THE TABLES!: Slanders about Prophet's (PBUH) marriage with Safiya (RA) - http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2009/11/slanders-regarding-holy-prophets-pbuh.html?m=1                plz refer to this side May Allah bless you and Indeed Allah and His beloved knows best
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on January 07, 2015, 06:03:33 AM
Title: The rotton filth of Bukhar's Jews in Bukhari
Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 07, 2015, 06:44:47 AM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Much of these stories are false, even when they favor the Prophet, peace be upon him.  Did you know that Bukhara (the town that Sheikh Al-Bukhari came from) had big Jewish migrations from and to it?  You can Google-research it here:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jews+of+bukhara

So it is quite possible and feasible that many Jews pretended to embrace Islam to poison it.  Imam Bukhari could be another rotten one of them.  And even if he wasn't, still the ones that were close to him from his Jewish students were.

Let me make this much simpler for all Muslims to understand.  So while in Sahih Bukhari you find all of the beautiful Hadiths that agree with the Glorious Quran and Its amazing Moral Code:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac22.htm#links

But you still find the rotten lies about:

1-  The Prophet being bewitched and influenced by magic, despite the fact that the Glorious Quran denies it.

2-  Aisha used to suckle adult males so she would be alone with them.

3-  She-monkey got stoned by other monkeys for committing adultery.

4-  Prophet Moses, peace be upon him, punching the Angel of Death in the eye when Allah Almighty sent him to take Moses' soul.  This is a direct blasphemy and violation to Allah Almighty's Divine Will.

5-  And on and on and on....

Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

Like I said before:  They couldn't penetrate the Glorious Quran and corrupt it.  So instead, they invented these Abu Khara books and put them on the same level as the Quran to poison Islam.  To see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

This is why only the things that DO NOT CLASH with the Glorious Quran and Its Morality are closest to the Truth.  Otherwise, they belong to the garbage.  This is why Allah Almighty called the Glorious Quran Muhaymin (The Book that has all Authority above all other books and laws).  Again, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on January 07, 2015, 11:23:07 AM
Maybe those Hadiths are weak in narration? Have you checked its grading & Background? Dr.Zakir Naik says that after the Quran if there is any authentic source then that is Sahih Bukhari.
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: submit on January 07, 2015, 09:13:02 PM
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on January 08, 2015, 08:10:38 AM
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on January 11, 2015, 04:20:54 AM
http://quran-errors.weebly.com/did-the-prophet-force-safiyah-to-marry-him.html
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on January 12, 2015, 05:53:38 AM
Brother,

I Noticed you are using "Weebly". I would suggest you something,You should create a blog and write an article on it, Instead of making standard pages. In weebly you are only allowed to create 10 Maximum pages. In this way you won't be able to create more article. So make a blog by going to Pages > Add pages > Create a Blog page. Once it is created, then you can click "New Post" and make an article. After you have done it you can click 'Post' and your article is posted. In this way you can create an unlimited number of Articles ( Posts ). Create an additional page ( Standard page ) and name it as "List of articles" ( or any name as you like it) . In this way it will become easier to browse the articles.

You can check my site as an example.
http://calltotruth.weebly.com/

My website is currently in progress.
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on January 12, 2015, 08:05:09 AM
Jazak Allahu khairan

Some good articles akh. Is it ok if I link them on my weebly?
Title: Re: Did Muhammad (SAW) Rape Safiyyah?
Post by: Uzair Ahmed on January 12, 2015, 12:02:46 PM
Jazak Allahu khairan

Some good articles akh. Is it ok if I link them on my weebly?

Yes Brother you are allowed.