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Assalamualykum.
I was wondering, if dajjal is so important than why Allah didn't say anything about him directly or indirectly in the Quran? Please help me with this.
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See friend Quran is not a story book unlike Bible.
I will tell d most important thing for a believer to know about ie., Salah - and some issues related to not mentioned in the Quran
Adhan - what to say while reciting adhan is not mentioned.
Wudhu - mentioned in 5:6 though not completely
How to perform Salah - not mentioned
No of rakah - not mentioned.
So for many thing we have to resort to hadith
As Allah says Quran 47:33 - O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and do not invalidate your deeds.
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Quran 4 : verse 80 - He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.
Allah has given us a good reason to do that as He said in
Quran 68:4 - And indeed, you are of a great moral character.
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Now tell me what is more important for you to know -
Issues related to Salah from Quran or Knowing of Dajjal from Quran
The reason why Quran didn't mentioned about Salah - though
offering salah is mentioned several times in Quran
- but how to offer it in way taught by the prophet is a Sunnah to
which Allah himself says to follow the prophet as mentioned in 2 verses above.
If everything would have been mentioned in Quran then he would have said to OBEY the prophet in 47:33.
Issues related to how prophet taught to pray is a bit controversial inspite of the fact that people know
he changed his way of praying as time passed on probably due to certain conditions & some due to his age.
Personally - I dont believe if a person who prays in some different ways TAUGHT IN HADITH ONLY is invalid.
ALSO
Quran has to be comprehensive to include all and every detail and it will make a Big fat book running into volumes.
Some People today give a lame excuse that they dont have time to read quran and some other shocking reason.
QURAN IS A MUST READ BOOK - ITS A SIGN FOR MEN OF UNDERSTANDING. SO HOW WILL U KNOW IT UNLESS READ IT
WITH UNDERSTANDING.
Only if they would have read the Quran once a book which is not comprehensive and gone through those verses mentioned above. They would have felt a responsibility to read Hadith(which is a bit comprehensive) practice and preach it to others too. As hadith itself says to if u know a bit of knowledge practice and preach it to others .
Also these Why has no ends. If it wud have mentioned answers to all ur why.
Still others would have asked even more y like - Why cant we see God - Why cant we do this, why cant we do that .......
Also do U know what the christians ask - Why doesnt the bible says anything about dinosaurs!!!
If you are so curious to know about Dajjal then I will post a article written by me related to it soon Insha Allah
Finally anybody wants to make any correction in this post he is free to do that.
Finally, Allah knows the best
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And keep in mind that Allah is the most wise . There is nothing Allah does without wisdom in it wither we know it or not . If we know , good , if we don't , then that doesn't mean it doesn't exist .
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Dajjal is metnioned in the quran indirectly, in this verse
On the day when some of the signs of your Lord shall come
6:158...or that some of the Signs of your Lord should come! The day that some of the signs of your Lord do come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good with his faith. Say: "Wait you! We (too) are waiting.")
ibn qasir tafsir
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=942&Itemid=61
Ibn Jarir recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said:
(Three, if they appear, then a soul will not benefit from its faith, if it had not believed before or earned good in its faith: when the sun rises from the west, Ad-Dajjal and the Beast of the earth.)
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can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr
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can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohammed,
Great question. I will Insha'Allah add this to this blog's main links on the main page. The following image is an example from brother "Black Muslim"'s example above:
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/how_post_images_on_blog.png)
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Thanks to all of you brothers for your excellent explanation. ;D ;D But still there is a little confusion. If Quran doesn't contain everything, then why Allah said:
''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)
Again Allah said:
''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)
Please help. :-\ :'(
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An excellent question & an excellent answer by our Muslim brothers , but one thing i'd like to add to the answer , that everything is mentioned in the Quran , as Allah s.w.t promoses in the ayats of Quran, but these ayats are best explained by none other than our Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) p.b.u.h , so in order to understand the Quran & follow it perfectly you have to follow the Prophet I.e the Hadiths , you have to follow the interpretation
For e.x - when I was in school & used to study english literature we had to read story books & in orde to understand the story properly & to know its summary we had a guide book. So the story book wasn't incomplete without the text book & complete by it's self , but in order to understand it better we needed the guide book , in the same way the holy Quran is complete by it's self but we need the Hadiths to understand it fully & properly
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Hello brother Farhan, you have asked a good question and that is the same question that I asked.
I am in a strong disagreement with many posters in this forum, but I don't have the tiem to start another debate. I just wanted to post here and remind everyone of ONE Quranic verse (that is all it takes), that removes this entire hadith scene. There are many, but, this one is enough by itself.
(Quran 45:6) These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement other than Allah and His verses will they believe?
Let's break this verse down. The beginning of the verse talks about the Quran. THESE are the verses of Allah in which we recite to you in truth. It is speaking of the Quran. You MUST agree with this as any honest person would. A sentence later, Allah tells you in what statement other than THESE verses will YOU believe? That clearly means that the message include ONLY these verses. Nothing else.
What does that verse tell you??!!!! Does that sound like Allah wants you to follow something else besides these verses (Quran). How could any honest person possibly say so!!! I don't understand!
Does this verse seriously leave any room for hadith (an alternate revelation)??
There is no Dajjal. BlackMuslim's double facepalm picture is an embarrassment to Islam and this forum. Please do not engage in actions like this.
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"I don't want to start another debate" huh ? The only embarrassment is in your inability to understand basic logic of 1-2-3 . Also in your cowardice of not answering whatever kills your claims shoving it aside as if it's nothing and then ranting "The verse is clear ! You're unwilling !" . Yeah yeah , call it emotional rant . As if saying I'm an embarrassment is most logical .
I put the picture because Farhan keeps asking for things which he could easily find an answer to with a google search or through basic Islamic knowledge yet he doesn't . The point is to learn instead of marching unto slanders which will only cast doubt into his heart .
The problem is that you took rejecting Sunnah as a doctrine , THEN went on to explain things to match with that doctrine . That's why when we bring a number of signs saying to obey the prophet you go to unbelievable lengths to twist their meaning so it doesn't contradict that doctrine .
Enough said .
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Assalamualykum.
Thanks to all for your answers. And brother mclinkin, you can't just say there is nothing called Dajjal. ??? ??? As brother Osama mentioned, Dajjal might not be an individual but a system which is operating in our present world.
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Assalamualykum.
Thanks to all for your answers. And brother mclinkin, you can't just say there is nothing called Dajjal. ??? ??? As brother Osama mentioned, Dajjal might not be an individual but a system which is operating in our present world.
The better question to ask is, if the Quran has informed us that it has ALL the details pertaining to Islam and that we are not to believe in any statement pertaining to Islam besides the Quran, why do you believe in the Dajjal? And why do you think that the Dajjal is pertaining to Islam?
Of course, the Quran informs us that the life of this world is a test and has many delusions and lies. So in that interpretation, there have always been dajjals and there are many of them. But there is no dajjal as the hadith describes.
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Sometimes it is best to leave those who are disbelievers in the Quran alone.
It ends here . All this time , I didn't dare call you a disbeliever even though you reject the orders of the prophet because I know calling a Muslim so is not easy and not everyone should do . But now , YOU did it . So I ask Allah that it returns to you and takes you out of Islam .
Wither you're convinced or not is your own problem . The people of Sunnah and band (Ahl Assunah Wa Al-Jama'a) believe in the noble Quran as their first source of revelation , believing in it , they follow its orders to obey the other kind of revelation to the prophet peace upon him from Allah Almighty . And it harms nobody when anyone refuses this .
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can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohammed,
Great question. I will Insha'Allah add this to this blog's main links on the main page. The following image is an example from brother "Black Muslim"'s example above:
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/how_post_images_on_blog.png)
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Brother can i post screenshots?