(b)- Zionist symbols in Saudi Arabia and the United States Seal:
In this video, the following two points are exposed:
The video was taken from: http://www.youtube.com/DaveAbdellah, and it will shed the light on some of the serious issues with Saudi Arabia and the United States Government. And here are some snapshots from the video:
1- The United States Seal and the 666 Symbol:
2- Some of Saudi Arabia's Government Zionist Logos:
3- The zionising of the Holy City of Mecca. The Saudi government has removed the obelisk pillar, which was a representation of satan that the Muslims would stone each with 7 stones, and replaced it with a mere wall. Is it because the obelisk pillar is one of the zionist machine's symbols of today? [1]
Again, please see the video that I linked above for a good demonstration of the the following two points:
And again, the video was taken from: http://www.youtube.com/DaveAbdellah, and it will shed the light on some of the serious issues with Saudi Arabia and the United States Government.
I definitely agree with the last picture that there are some ridiculous rituals that people think are part of the hajj.
But, are you saying that the dajjal is the zionist movement or an actual person?
I seek the Quran and only the Quran, just as I was instructed by Allah
In support of such beliefs, they refer to some of the most ridiculous fabricated ‘hadith’, one of which claims that every time a stone is thrown at any of the three Satanic stations, that Satan in fact feels pain and groans in agony!!
This is getting far too ridiculous! It's already been demonstrated to you countless times before that Muslims are clearly instructed to follow Prophet Muhammad also. And this is from the very Glorious Quran Itself:
"What Allah gave as booty (Fai) to His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from the people of the townships, - it is for Allah, His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), the kindred (of Messenger Muhammad SAW), the orphans, AlMasakin (the poor), and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become a fortune used by the rich among you. And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it), and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment. (The Noble Quran, 59:7)"
http://www.answering-christianity.com/beliefs_i_embrace_and_condemn.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
This is where you get your apples and oranges all mixed up. Even if the Hadith is false, this still wouldn't make the ritual itself false. Whether one is a Muslim or not, one couldn't be that ridiculously off in his brain to believe that the INHERITED SUNNAH, which had been practiced by billions upon billions of Muslims throughout the ages, isn't original Islam! You couldn't say for example that SURAT AL-FATIHA isn't obligatory to read in every Prayer, just because the Quran doesn't say so.
You have to differentiate between the inherited Sunnah and some of the stupid false and blasphemous hadiths, such as Moses punched the Angel of death in the eye, which forced Allah Almighty to extend Moses' life, after Allah Almighty SUPPOSEDLY decided to take it and had sent the Angel of Death to take it. Moses punched in the face both the Angel of Death and Allah Almighty's Will I suppose.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/beliefs_i_embrace_and_condemn.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
The stoning of the devil is part of the Hajj, whether you like it or not. This is Islam. Don't try to modify it, akhi. The Noble Verses that you mention about the Glorious Quran is Complete, yes, those are about your Salvation! Not about how to dress, how to speak, how to eat, etc... The Commands are there for being a good and pious Muslim, and one who doesn't harm others. But the Hadiths detail everything.
I hope this makes sense for you now.
Wa Alaikum As'salam akhi Mclinkin94,
You're honestly beginning to sound like an infidel pretending to be Muslim. We get those rotten infidels every once in a while. I just hope you're no one of them.
1- You're speaking like the atheists when they say "may be there is no GOD", or "we don't know...". Your argument AT BEST is "may be they're false", or "maybe this practice is fabricated by some group of sheikhs....".
I don't know then how the Islam that we follow had been perfected by Allah Almighty according to the Glorious Quran:
[005:003] Forbidden to you is the flesh of an animal which dies of itself, and blood and the flesh of swine; and that on which is invoked the name of any other than ALLAH; and that which has been strangled; and that which has been beaten to death; and that which has been killed by a fall and that which has been gored to death; and that of which a wild animal has eaten, except that which you have properly slaughtered; and that which has been slaughtered at an altar as an offering to idols. And forbidden is also this that you seek to know your lot by the divining arrows. That is an act of disobedience. This day have those who disbelieve despaired of harming your religion. So fear them not, but fear ME. This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed MY favour upon you and have chosen for you Islam as religion. But whoso is forced by hunger, without being wilfully inclined to sin, then, surely, ALLAH is Most Forgiving, and is Merciful.
For GOD Almighty's Sake, if the inherited Sunnah is all wrong (our Prayer, Fasting, Pilgrimage, etc...) are all wrong, according to you, then how is this in harmony with the Quran?? And how is the Quran in harmony with common sense and logic then?? How could It claim that Islam had been PERFECTED and COMPLETED for us, when everything about It is just false, according to you??
2- For the millionth time told to you by Muslims, the Glorious Quran details everything as far as Salvation and Commands are concerned, and the Hadiths detail the DEEP DIVES of the practices. Hajj is in the Holy Quran. Salat is in the Holy Quran. The Hadiths tell you how to do them. If a Command in a Hadith isn't mentioned in the Glorious Quran at all, such as drinking with your right hand, or shaving your mustache, then this is all optional Sunnah. Many Scholars agree with this. However, it is best to do it if you could. I personally do the Sunnah as much as I can. But it is not compulsory.
3- Allah Almighty's Command above in my previous post wasn't just limited to spoils of wars, man! The command is clearly a general one, even if it were mentioned in a specific situation.
Now for the sake of keeping the Muslims' faith balanced, and not to spread any cultists' confusions and lies, and for the sake of the possibility of YOU being a non-Muslims, I would like to humbly ask you to cease at once all discussions regarding the Sunnah. You can resume discussing the Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran and all other topics. But the Quran and Sunnah is something that has gone on for a long time here, and quite frankly, it's becoming quite silly to continue this discussion and keep repeating ourselves over and over and over to you. So please brother, do not discuss this again here. I'll give you the last word on this thread to say and rebut what you wish.
Allah DID perfect Islam and he made it clear that the Quran is the only source of law. Sunni's and shia's are not Muslims. They are disbelievers. They are not following Allah's perfected religion which states that the Quran is the only source of law.