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Update from Osama Abdallah:
Fearing that brother Idris' invaluable images throughout this thread would eventually get deleted from the websites that he linked them from, I went ahead and backed up this entire thread to the following link:
www.answering-christianity.com/topic_1996.htm (all images)
Other related threads by brother Idris:
The names Ahmed and Mohammed in Jewish document that predates Prophet Mohammed ?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2304.msg10493.html#msg10493
Is something wrong with the Great Isaiah Scroll ?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1996.msg8197.html#msg8197
Historical proof of Mecca existence B.C.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2254.msg9964.html#msg9964
May Allah Almighty bless brother Idris for his invaluable research and work. Ameen.
End of Update.
Salam Aleykom,
I have observed some strange things in the so-called Great Isaiah Scroll. I'll put the first photo and just tell me what you can notice:
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/topic_1996_files/e5784ba323628dc2.jpg)
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Ok, let me help you...(the same photo with color inversion)
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/topic_1996_files/78efe532dd9c1b94.jpg)
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris,
Interesting find, akhi. It seems that there might be a modification done to the scroll? Is that what you're suggesting? We know that the scroll had been kept by Israel.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
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I will also put insha'Allah some another photos showing strange additions to the text ! I've included my objections to it.
Salam
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Great find, dear brother Idris! Keep up the great work and research. May Allah Almighty bless you, akhi. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As-Salam Aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketu,
brothers I think I have found something which clearly shows that the Isaiah Scroll (or the scaned photos) was indeed manipulated ! I will insha'Allah presents here my findings and you will judge for yourself
Take care,
Ahmed
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As-Salam Aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketu,
brothers I think I have found something which clearly shows that the Isaiah Scroll (or the scaned photos) was indeed manipulated ! I will insha'Allah presents here my findings and you will judge for yourself
Take care,
Ahmed
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Idris,
May Allah Almighty bless you for your efforts, akhi. Keep up the great work. I look forward to your findings, insha'Allah.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,
May Allah Almighty bless you for your amazing finds! Keep up the great research and work, akhi. I will write a big article on this and give you all of the credit for the images and points, insha'Allah. Very interesting indeed dear brother, and very clear! The enemies of GOD would rather worship satan than embrace Islam.
Stay True, dear brother. May Allah Almighty continue to protect you and bless you, akhi Ahmed. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah (from the USA)
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Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,
May Allah Almighty bless you for your amazing finds! Keep up the great research and work, akhi. I will write a big article on this and give you all of the credit for the images and points, insha'Allah. Very interesting indeed dear brother, and very clear! The enemies of GOD would rather worship satan than embrace Islam.
Stay True, dear brother. May Allah Almighty continue to protect you and bless you, akhi Ahmed. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah (from the USA)
As-Salam Aleikum dear brother Osama,
Jazaka Allahu khayran, and may Allah also bless you akhi al'aziz, Ameen. I'am glad that you will write an article based on my findings, it is a good idea, the people must know the truth. I will insha'Allah add more similar findings. Anyone who will find some strange things in Isaiah scrolls (and other MSS from DSS) should post it here.
Take care,
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
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Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,
Keep up the great work, akhi! Your findings are extremely important. I will Insha'Allah propagate it very aggressively on the website. I will get to your work this week, Insha'Allah.
Take care, dear brother,
Osama Abdallah
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Salam,
Sorry, I forget to include the links to the photos from the above post.
link to the last two black & white photos from Dr. Miller's website:
http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum-8.htm
link to the first two color photos [as always]:
http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
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As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
my next post will confirm insha'Allah in 100 % that the Isaiah scroll - which is claimed to have 2000 years - is actually not authentic !
Take care, and Salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
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As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
my next post will confirm insha'Allah in 100 % that the Isaiah scroll - which is claimed to have 2000 years - is actually not authentic !
Take care, and Salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Ahmed,
Keep up the great work, akhi. May Allah Almighty greatly bless you. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris,
I love you work, akhi! Keep up the great research and work. May Allah Almighty bless you for your hard efforts. I will go through all of your posts and make article(s) from your work and heavily propagate them on the website, insha'Allah. Your account and other brothers' accounts here are on my list.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris,
I love you work, akhi! Keep up the great research and work. May Allah Almighty bless you for your hard efforts. I will go through all of your posts and make article(s) from your work and heavily propagate them on the website, insha'Allah. Your account and other brothers' accounts here are on my list.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Wa aleikum as-Salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
Ameen brother, insha'Allah the people will know the truth. And I challenge every Christian in this matter who would like to show me that I'am wrong and that my allegations are false! The proofs which I have presented in my earlier posts here, are sufficiently clear and even are supported by Christian scholars. More analyzed cases are coming insha'Allah.
Take care, and Salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
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As-Salamu Aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
In regards to my last post about my conversation with Professor Eugene Ulrich
- of course IAA (Israeli Antiquities Authority) exists for less than 68 years, and one could not say that they has kept Isaiah Scroll for over 500 years, but I was really wondering why this scholar tried to correct me in his reply that "IAA kept 1QIsaa 500+ years." if he already acknowledges that I've said "over 50 years" ?? Did he actually read what I've said ? Surely did. Maybe he was a little bit confuzzle, but on the other hand it is possible that he accidentally gives us a hint, i.e. it was not necessarily IAA who kept Isaiah scroll for so long, but e.g. some group of earlier Jews lived in the Middle Age. I swear that this scroll is involved with a big intrigue, and I hope Allah will expose them someday, so the people will know the truth.
I have found a nice book for free in which you might find interesting informations about the Dead Sea Scrolls:
Link: https://archive.org/details/TheDeadSeaScrollsDeception
Take care, and Salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Ahmed,
Amazing research and posts, dear brother. Keep up the great work, akhi. Really, you are on to something very dangerous for the enemies of Islam. It is very important. May Allah Almighty guide you and protect you, akhi Ahmed. Ameen. You and your family. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Ahmed,
May Allah Almighty bless you for your research. I had added this thread's link to www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm.
Keep up the great work, akhi!
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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" Those to whom We gave the Scripture (Jews and Christians) recognise him (Muhammad SAW or the Ka'bah at Makkah) as they recongise their sons. But verily, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it - [i.e. the qualities of Muhammad SAW which are written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)]." 2:146
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"My Father met a man called Professor Hugh Schonfeld who along with others interpreted the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were each given every 3rd page. My father said Professor Schonfeld was sad about it "I fear it will never all be made known" And that it was very disappointing it was being supressed."
-Some person on a youtube video about the Dead Sea scrolls confirming Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeBvI08i2SQ
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As-salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
"My Father met a man called Professor Hugh Schonfeld who along with others interpreted the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were each given every 3rd page. My father said Professor Schonfeld was sad about it "I fear it will never all be made known" And that it was very disappointing it was being supressed."
Interesting quotation brother, from where did you get it ?
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The above quotation is apparently a comment at the YouTube video by user "The".
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris,
I have updated all of your posts above that contained images, and updated all of the images' paths to this website. So insha'Allah, they'll always show up when the reader opens up your thread. This also includes the image:
http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum35.jpg
It's link takes the reader to:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/qum35.jpg
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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one thing i am confused about. if we have evidence that the Dead sea scrolls are fake then why do we claim that the name of the prophet Muhammad saws if found in them. Why do we associate our deen and our prophet with spurious material. just like the Gospel of barnabas which is known to be a fake. yet many muslims continue to mention it as if it is truth.
we should not lower ourselves to that level because the non muslims use this against us when we use then in apologetic discussions. it these books or scroll of the non muslims are fake stay away from them. One brother mentioned that the Israeli govt is holding it back because there is islamic truth in there. But if the scrolls are fake then how can there be Islamic truth? we need to confirm if these are truth or fake before quoting from them
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Because we Muslims believe that some previous scriptures have remnants of Divine Truth in them. For more on Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, in previous scriptures, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
Also, what agrees with the Glorious Quran, from Hadiths and non-Islamic texts, is closest to the Truth, but not absolute Truth like the Pure Holy Quran. This is according to the Glorious Quran Itself:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
As Muslims, it is not our problem to sort out the non-Muslims' corrupted scriptures. This is why Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, commanded us to neither say they are false nor true when they're used as evidence. We always must say Allah Almighty alone knows what is True and what is false in them. This is also why Allah Almighty Said this about the Glorious Quran:
[018:001] Praise be to God, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
[039:028] (It is) a Quran in Arabic, without any crookedness (therein): in order that they may guard against Evil.
Only the Holy Quran is without crookedness and man-made lies. All other scriptures are crooked. Again, visit the above link.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah