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Title: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: Saudi Salafi on March 18, 2016, 06:51:20 PM
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: AhmadFarooq on March 18, 2016, 08:40:03 PM
The following is according to my knowledge, which could be mistaken.

I don't think Islamic doctrine ever claimed that the humans were the "first creation". From what I understand the first creation in this verse is referring to the "former creation" which has died (i.e. humans) and now Allah will recreate it. The word "???" translated as "first" can also be translated as "former" which, if I'm not mistaken, is the gist of it in this context (I will ask an Arabic speaking person to confirm this).

This is apparently the opinion of Ibn Kathir: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2620&Itemid=76 (http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2620&Itemid=76)
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: Saudi Salafi on March 19, 2016, 06:25:23 PM
 Can you continue your refutation please? Or ask anyone to continue it?
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: Saudi Salafi on March 19, 2016, 06:32:59 PM
 Brother this has been refuted over here https://haveyoumetislam.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/is-imam-mahdi-the-biblical-anti-christ/ Alhamdulilah . If you want to add any extra comments then it will be appreciated. I ask that you will go to my first question regarding Prophet Muhammad being a False prophet and helpdarksouls refute it. Thank you.
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: khdrb on March 21, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
i think there is nothing called anti Christ, it's also a pagan roman/Zionists(atheists) made, maybe they mean anti roman crooked empire, and a fixer of roman empire (Islam) that's what afraid of getting out of their king hand lucifer . anyhow can you believe that there are many Arabs Muslims doesn't believe in the Mahdi or Dajjal or Jesus PBUH return?, because non of these are mentioned in the Quran ,and some hadeeths about these subjects contradicting each others and contradicts with Quran.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdC14lRcKs
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: submit on March 23, 2016, 07:20:12 AM
How can Imam Mahdi be the False Messiah? Would Imam Mahdi be helping Jews by claiming he is the long anticipated Messiah and so the Jews are saved.
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: Saudi Salafi on March 24, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: khdrb on March 21, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
i think there is nothing called anti Christ, it's also a pagan roman/Zionists(atheists) made, maybe they mean anti roman crooked empire, and a fixer of roman empire (Islam) that's what afraid of getting out of their king hand lucifer . anyhow can you believe that there are many Arabs Muslims doesn't believe in the Mahdi or Dajjal or Jesus PBUH return?, because non of these are mentioned in the Quran ,and some hadeeths about these subjects contradicting each others and contradicts with Quran.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdC14lRcKs

 Adnan Ibrahim is a shia I think, so don't listen to him.
Title: Re: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio
Post by: khdrb on March 25, 2016, 10:37:20 AM
no no not at all. he as a scholar doing his personal endeavor in explaining Quran, and explains it the way he sees it right as many other thousands of Arab scholars.