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I think i got the answer from here:
http://askthescholar.com/question-details.aspx?qstID=6301
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Lol Anybody here?
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,
Ok, you raised a very important topic, because I've been researching it myself recently. The Glorious Quran is clear about not coming near your wife when she's on her monthly period. Allah Almighty gives two Commands to the husbands regarding their wives who are menstruating:
1- Do not touch them.
2- Do not come near them.
?2:222 ???????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ?????????
[002:222] And they ask you about menstruation. Say: It is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near ?????????? them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves.
So you can't have sex with them, and you're not allowed to touch them or be near them.
Also, the Glorious Quran Commands the Muslims to purify their clothes and keep them clean. So washing is the best thing to do, and not just scraping the impurity off:
From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:
Pious Clothes ???? ?????? are mandatory upon the Believers to wear. Purify and Clean and Wash your clothes (??????? ????). See Noble Verses 7:26, 24:58-60, 74:4-5 (http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search1.cgi?search_text=7%3A26%2C+24%3A58-60%2C+74%3A4-5&B1=Search).
Aisha's Islam?
The hadiths narrate on Aisha all kinds of things that some of them are quite outrageous and ridiculous! Like the Prophet used to have sex with her while showering and she was in her period. These are lies that were invented on the Prophet and on the mouth of Aisha, and they are in contradiction with the Quran:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NE9xtotnc
Youtube: ????? ???? ???????: ???? ???? ????? ????? ??? ????
Research it further on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AF+%D9%83%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1%D9%8A++%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%84+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87+%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%B1+%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B4%D8%A9+%D9%88%D9%87%D9%8A+%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B6+%21).
I will write about this more, insha'Allah.
Why even mention this??
What kind of an ill-raised ill-mannered woman speak about having sex with her husband while they're in the shower anyway?? This is when Allah Almighty Commands the Muslims, men and women, to be in the highest standards in modesty and chastity. So much that women are forbidden from striking their heels on the ground to make sounds that attract men to them! Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
And Aisha is running her mouth about her sexual life with the Prophet?? Either these are clear lies on the Prophet, for the Prophet CAN NOT contradict the Glorious Quran, or Aisha was ill-raised by her parents.
I take the first option. These are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites and haters of Aisha and the Prophet. The Prophet was not allowed to come near his wives while they were on their monthly periods. Let alone fondling with them and having sex with them while showering. Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
It's always Aisha, and only Aisha:
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, had many wives. But notice that it is always Aisha, and only Aisha, who narrates these sexual hadiths. This is another clear proof that they are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites on Aisha and the Prophet. She had many haters, and the hypcorites and liars saw in her weak spot to attack the Prophet and Islam from.
Otherwise, how come none of the other wives of the Prophet narrate these hadiths?? Did he live in celibacy with the other wives??
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Thanks! You said more Explanation will come is that true or is it explained, but this is enough to refute the fun islamic lie 15 of acts17 :)
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You are welcome, dear brother. I think this is it for now. And yes, thank you, please keep bringing these up here to be refuted, insha'Allah. I will create a library of them and post them on the website and make videos of them, insha'Allah. Please feel free to make your own videos and post them to refute the infidels, dear brother.
Jazaka Allah Khayr. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Well, Reason I came Here so i can create a new video refutingliardavidwood17 here is his video i refuted the child bride and the others stuff i just got the problems with the hadith so i came, here is the video btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDYzY-shBA
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Good dear brother. Please share your link when you're done so we can propagate it on this website and also on youtube. We need Muslims to hit back on youtube. I keep want to do it but keep getting too busy. So if you can do it, insha'Allah, then that would be fantastic :).
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Sure!
Jazak'Allah Khair :)
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I'm done with my video should I upload it or do you got more points? :)
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hmm Yeah I'm gone upload it..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZna12JAAM
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So hows the video Brother Osama :)
If you got more points i can create a part 2 or whatever..
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Jazaka Allah Khayr for the video, dear brother. I will insha'Allah add it to David Wood's rebuttal section.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salam Alaikum brother Osama plz make a article about it cuz someone commented on a video saying:
(https://s23.postimg.org/m5jvas5ob/Screenshot_16.jpg)
I Got some replies for her but i'm tired right now if i'm gone debate with her while feeling like this i get frustrated this is why i asked for a article so i can copy & paste or send the article you know lol and yeah i read answering-christianity.com/warning.htm it's just i can't debate right now, not only that her questions is already answered in the video but i don't get it why she send this comment then is it maybe because she didn't watch the video fully? I even send a link but it's in the description she didn't even bother to read it (answering-christianity.com/warning.htm).
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZna12JAAM
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chapter 2:
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/5
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not helping.
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not helping.
The hadith is clear. The anti-islamist makes fun of it and ridicules it and wants muslims to reject it.
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http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2439.0.html
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Nevermind for now replied to her gone wait for her to reply back.
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Asalamullaykum brothers, very interesting topic. I have wondered about the shahih bukhari and muslim for a long time. There are hadith that seem morally and fundementally non-islamic. I found this link research by others brothers into more corruption of hadiths and how they contridict quran itself.
http://submission.org/Corruption_of_Religion.html
Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.
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Here is another account that sheds some light on the sibject, that most of us muslims have been trained to believe that since the hadith are from sahih bukhari or sahih muslim they must be all 100% this is not correct because trained scholars themselves say that sahih bukhari and muslim have the most reliable hadith, but doesnt mean it is completely relaible meaning they may still be certain errors and contridictions. So basically if a hadith isnt confirmed in quran, and contridicts quran then it needs to be thrown to way side.
http://www.mohammedamin.com/Community_issues/How-reliable-are-hadith.html
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Asalamullaykum brothers,
Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.
wa alaikum assalam
It seems you like to post links to hadeeth-rejection sites. Anyway, nothing about the hadeeth mentioned above is wrong or immoral.
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Brother it seems u misunderstand. There are indeed corrupted hadith, however i never said all hadith are corrupted. If you pay attention to my full statement, i made a clear case that what ever hadith contridicts the quran is clearly a corruption. Since quran can never be contridicted. Also another thing to note is just because the source went to far on bashing hadith which clearly he is mislead into beleving all hadith are wrong, he did mention some points that should be looked into such as the after the 4 caliph period, there were much division and also note that there are abundent of hadith with narrators who are dubious. So it is important to look if the hadith dors not make morally sense and its logic doesn't compare with rasool saw then we shouldnt take that hadith with such conviction. Also i am only posting what i find, allah swt knows how much love i have for our beautiful faith, if i say something wrong may allah azawajal forgive me, ameen.
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And hence the science of hadeeth was established.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asa3.html
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,
Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best. 300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began. And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts. While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran. Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm
What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation. The conversation will end up with something like this:
"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."
The problem with this shallow statement is:
1- The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT. Not 300 years later.
2- The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.
3- Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.
4- Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).
These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter. Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved. For more details, please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
The comparison is just ludicrous!
I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic. The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes. This is one example. He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes. This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies. Again, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
I hope this helps.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,
Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best. 300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began. And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts. While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran. Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm
What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation. The conversation will end up with something like this:
"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."
The problem with this shallow statement is:
1- The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT. Not 300 years later.
2- The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.
3- Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.
4- Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).
These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter. Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved. For more details, please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
The comparison is just ludicrous!
I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic. The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes. This is one example. He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes. This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies. Again, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
I hope this helps.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Alhamduillah Brother Osama Should I Make part 2 video or are you gone make the video? or are you gonna make short Article about It or both O.O?
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,
Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond to your other post earlier. Yes brother, please make all of the necessary videos. Jazaka Allah Khayr for your hard work. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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I completely agree with u brother osama. It is indeed a treachery to trust hadith more then quran. Our strict rules on preservation of quran was on applied on hadiths, they statements from sahabas, which we all know and love but what is more authoritarian the quran or the hadith, i will tell u any true muslim will say quran. Those who say hadith are ppl that associated our beloved prophet pbuh with allah swt, which is a grave mistake that our beloved rasool saw warned us about. Also in the quran allah swt is warning us to not to do the same as what the small group of jews and majority of christians did by making prophets into sons of god astakfirullah. May allah azawajjal guide the ummah ameen.
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Correction:not applied to hadith
Srry im using phone thus make error because of delay in the digital keyboard.
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Water is used to purify and to cleanse, as for the cased of sperm mani like brother Sama quoted. Its not considered as an unclean fluid. Hence you can choose to wash of the stain or leave it.
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Water is used to purify and to cleanse, as for the cased of sperm mani like brother Sama quoted. Its not considered as an unclean fluid. Hence you can choose to wash of the stain or leave it.
so, you agree that there is nothing wrong/immoral/unclean in the hadith mentioned.
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School of thoughts of Imam Hanafi, Maliki, Ahmad state that sperm mani as unclean fluid as how they interpret the hadiths above. Which is similar to Jewish laws on impurity of sperm.
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?338423-dirty-sheets-after-being-with-husband&s=3b511260b75d9cbd505f1fe7a31b8059&p=4840447&viewfull=1#post4840447
But for those who view it as pure fluid. The sperm mani is similar to mucus and saliva. Its just that you feel uncomfortable with those fluids hence why you remove them.
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Bro @QuranSearchCom remember this?:
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,
Ok, you raised a very important topic, because I've been researching it myself recently. The Glorious Quran is clear about not coming near your wife when she's on her monthly period. Allah Almighty gives two Commands to the husbands regarding their wives who are menstruating:
1- Do not touch them.
2- Do not come near them.
?2:222 ???????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ?????????
[002:222] And they ask you about menstruation. Say: It is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near ?????????? them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves.
So you can't have sex with them, and you're not allowed to touch them or be near them.
Also, the Glorious Quran Commands the Muslims to purify their clothes and keep them clean. So washing is the best thing to do, and not just scraping the impurity off:
From www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm:
Pious Clothes ???? ?????? are mandatory upon the Believers to wear. Purify and Clean and Wash your clothes (??????? ????). See Noble Verses 7:26, 24:58-60, 74:4-5 (http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search1.cgi?search_text=7%3A26%2C+24%3A58-60%2C+74%3A4-5&B1=Search).
Aisha's Islam?
The hadiths narrate on Aisha all kinds of things that some of them are quite outrageous and ridiculous! Like the Prophet used to have sex with her while showering and she was in her period. These are lies that were invented on the Prophet and on the mouth of Aisha, and they are in contradiction with the Quran:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NE9xtotnc
Youtube: ????? ???? ???????: ???? ???? ????? ????? ??? ????
Research it further on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AF+%D9%83%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1%D9%8A++%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%84+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87+%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%B1+%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B4%D8%A9+%D9%88%D9%87%D9%8A+%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B6+%21).
I will write about this more, insha'Allah.
Why even mention this??
What kind of an ill-raised ill-mannered woman speak about having sex with her husband while they're in the shower anyway?? This is when Allah Almighty Commands the Muslims, men and women, to be in the highest standards in modesty and chastity. So much that women are forbidden from striking their heels on the ground to make sounds that attract men to them! Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
And Aisha is running her mouth about her sexual life with the Prophet?? Either these are clear lies on the Prophet, for the Prophet CAN NOT contradict the Glorious Quran, or Aisha was ill-raised by her parents.
I take the first option. These are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites and haters of Aisha and the Prophet. The Prophet was not allowed to come near his wives while they were on their monthly periods. Let alone fondling with them and having sex with them while showering. Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
It's always Aisha, and only Aisha:
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, had many wives. But notice that it is always Aisha, and only Aisha, who narrates these sexual hadiths. This is another clear proof that they are lies that were invented by the liars and hypocrites on Aisha and the Prophet. She had many haters, and the hypcorites and liars saw in her weak spot to attack the Prophet and Islam from.
Otherwise, how come none of the other wives of the Prophet narrate these hadiths?? Did he live in celibacy with the other wives??
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
You said you will write on it more In sha 'Allah then maybe post a article refutation on your website, but how long has it been already XD.
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Zoraise,
I believe I forgot to remove the statement after I gave the Youtube Research link. Everything you need is there akhi.
Jazaka Allah Khayr. Ameen.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah