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Title: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 03, 2017, 12:55:54 PM
Asalam ul laykum brothers, the work I am about to show you is a scholarly piece that I have been working on. It is absolutely CLEAR evidence that "Ahmed" prophet Muhammad pbuh prophesized name is in the Isaiah 42:1 in Hebrew. Enjoy:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED in DSS OT in HEBREW by ADIL RIAZ.docx.pdf (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED in DSS OT in HEBREW by ADIL RIAZ.docx.pdf)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Piebu2G_gf2AdLnKrepoEXbO3WDu-zDFsT5aMJabCAo/edit?usp=sharing

I did some extra research and I might be coming up with a part 2 of it.
Leave me feedback and let me know what you think.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Syedsamad on May 03, 2017, 12:58:05 PM
Excellent 👍👏👍
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 03, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
Thank you brother, I am looking more deeper into Isaiah 42 since it is the MOST CLEAREST EVIDENCE of the prophesy of prophet Muhammad pbuh in the OT. I will work harder to dissect this. Also I will also show more translations that both "Athmck" and "Ahmed" are names and are suppose to be RETAINED, but they translated it. My next work will be on "Whom I uphold" and we will see if this is correct or false. I want to dissect this to the point that No apologetic has anything to say regards to it.    ;)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Syedsamad on May 03, 2017, 01:23:54 PM
Great after u finish it completely u can make a video on it and she it on utube
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 03, 2017, 01:31:34 PM
Since I have a tight schedule managing opening a business, college, 2 jobs and family. I have a hard time to do that and can only do things at my own pace. I talked to brother TruthExposer777, he said he can convert my work to videos, I did provide him with this work. So hopefully u will see it posted on his channel soon.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 03, 2017, 02:48:54 PM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Adil and all other Muslims,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for your hard work, akhi.  For some reason, I am not able to see the file.  I get an error page that says the following:

"Google Docs encountered an error. Please try reloading this page, or coming back to it in a few minutes.

To learn more about the Google Docs editors, please visit our help center.

We're sorry for the inconvenience.
- The Google Docs Team"


I will try it on a different computer.  I will let you know when I do so, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 03, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Osama, it was working fine a moment ago. For some reason Google Drive and Google Doc occurred an error. Is there another way I can show my work here. I used the hyperlink code and shared my Google Drive share link for the work. But for some reason it occurred an error and I am trying to do it again but it is causing same problem. What method do you recommend?
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 03, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
Ok brother Osama, I fixed the problem.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Piebu2G_gf2AdLnKrepoEXbO3WDu-zDFsT5aMJabCAo/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 03, 2017, 03:44:45 PM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Adil,

Thank you.  I can see it now.  Jazaka Allah Khayr.  I was using my ORACLE LINUX 6 server at home that I built (all non-microsoft), and I wasn't sure if this was the problem or not. 

Jazaka Allah Khayr.  The document looks impressive.  I will look into it later today if I get time and a change, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 04, 2017, 01:32:28 AM
Assalamun Alaikum dear brother

Great work brother!!!  But I would suggest you to do a research on the Four Servant Songs of Isaiah. The Four Servant Songs consists of Isaiah 42 also. According to scholars they speak of the same servant.  So brother I would suggest you to do a research on the Songs of the Suffering Servant instead of studying just a part of it. Since if Isaiah 42 speaks of Prophet Muhammad then the entire song should speak of Prophet Muhammad too.  Anyway I highly appreciate your hard work brother.  Keep up the good work!!!

Thank you
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 03:19:26 AM
Walakum salam brother, I took a brief look into the four servant song of Isaiah. This isn't a separate biblical work. These are mentions and verse through out isaiah 42 that go back to the context of the special servant of God that is being mentioned in Isaiah 42:1. The reason why I decided to make Isaiah 42:1 in such importance is that the Entire Isaiah 42 is talking about the servant mentioned at the first verse. If I can completely dissect this then there is undeniable proof that the entire isaiah 42 is talking about prophet Muhammad pbuh.

Now from the my work above, I did that and I showed clear evidence that it is about prophet Muhammad pbuh. However, I will take it further and make it absolute evident that it is prophet Muhammad, by also proving that "whom I uphold," shouldn't even belong there because that is not what the verse says in Hebrew.

I will also work on making more works that shows how prophet Muhammad pbuh fulfills Isaiah 42 prophecy. The first verse is already evident of that. As it says "he will bring justice to nation's" prophet Jesus never brought justice to nations, however prophet Muhammad pbuh did by sending letters to other nations to come to Islam, while some accepted others didn't and fought and lost, that was the justice.

Inshallah I will do the best I can.  =)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 04, 2017, 03:33:42 AM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Brother Adil, it looks like the "doitinhebrew" site are messing around with the AHMED translation.  Here is a google translate link that shows ???? in English:

https://www.google.com/#q=%D7%90%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%93+in+English

From the two links that you gave in your article, it is quite clear that Hebrew speakers differ on how to pronounce the ?.  Sometimes they pronounce it as H, and sometimes they pronounce it as T.  The Babylon translation that you gave in your article, translated it as H, and gave the result Ahmed.  Any thoughts on this, akhi?

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 03:56:09 AM
To me it seems that there are varients to the translation to that word like some say ATMC and others say Atmch for the that word with the kaf. What is important to notice is that this word is a name and the translator is retaining it. While some translators are saying Ahmed, this proves that Ahmed is indeed the meaning of this word. I even tried typing in Ahmed from English to Hebrew. It gave me the word that I corrected with the dalet. But when I type in "Whom I Uphold" u get a completely set of Hebrew letters.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 03:57:37 AM
Correction: "completely different"
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 04:05:25 AM

Here are varients of Ahmed :. Achmad, Achmat, Achmed, Achmet, Ahmat, Ahmet, Ahmadu, Amadou, Ahmot, Amadu


If you are getting any of these above while translating all of this is correct, these are varients due to different way of pronunciation.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 04, 2017, 04:11:06 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 04:20:40 AM
Brother Osama regards to the site Do It In Hebrew, I tried it vice versa, I typed in Ahmed in English to Hebrew translation. It is correct I do not know why they changed it from Hebrew to english to be "I will."

So go ahead try this method by typing in Ahmed and translating English to Hebrew, it is indeed correct.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 04:27:14 AM
Regards to in Hebrew T and H being mixed up, brother this wouldn't really be surprising after all both languages are semitic languages who have the same root and background. This is what I understood from the different translations like Atmad and Ahmed notice the T and the H, as u said it urself that in acient Hebrew they probably didn't differentiate it.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 04:30:31 AM
But the true significance is that of the dalet and how it resembles the kaf. That is what really changes Athmch to Ahmed.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 04, 2017, 06:10:34 AM
Assalamun alaikum dear brother

Isaiah 53 is a part of the Four Servant Songs. Isaiah 42 is the first part of it. According to scholars the servant songs speak of the same servant. Isaiah 42 speaks of a glorified servant while Isaiah 53 speaks of a suffering servant. Can you show how Prophet Muhammad is the Suffering Servant of God?

Thank you
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 04, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Mohamed,

I am not sure that Isaiah 53 is about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  May be the brothers here have a different opinion with better proofs, but the Old Testament made Prophesies about two Servants and not just one.  And the New Testament further confirms this with the Jews asking John the Baptist on whether he was the awaited Messiah or the awaited Prophet.  You can read all about it at:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dr Tazeen on May 04, 2017, 10:43:00 AM
Jazakullah khair Brother...

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 04, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
Assalamun alaikum dear brother Osama

What exactly is the duty of the Messiah?
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 11:14:30 AM
Asalam ul laykum brother and sister,

Brother Mohamed I will look into Isaiah 53 later, gotta take things one step at a time. Inshallah when I make work in regards to it I will post it here brother. I never looked at Isaiah 53 critically so I don't know much about it.

Regards to job of a Messiah is very simple, the Messiah will come at the time of termoil and he will defeat the anti Christ dajjal. This is what Jews and Muslims believe that job of a Messiah is that sort of like a hero. But Christian's completely blow it out of proportion and make it into something that it isn't.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 12:54:08 PM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 01:03:48 PM
I will look into this further and document it. also note that the topic of Suffering and Glory of the Servants starts at Isaiah 52:13(https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+52&version=NIV), Thus it is possible that I am right about this and Isaiah 53 could be about prophet Muhammad pbuh. However there are things in Isaiah 53 that can seem problematic.

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 04, 2017, 03:15:44 PM
we have already visualised this before
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16587039_382770132100764_2094797691977364547_o.png?oh=f94cf115e28e6695734db2a8b862ee35&oe=594BA2D9)

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16601919_382770025434108_290853502493671879_o.png?oh=096581ac49c77db6f1007a46d321eb7b&oe=5940B56F)




Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 04, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Dawud.  Great work, akhi.  Tonight insha'Allah, I am going to go through your posts and copy your precious images to this site to permanently preserve them, insha'Allah.  I am going to RE-LINK all of your images to this website, insha'Allah.  This way we don't have to worry about them ever getting erased or lost as long as this website remains alive, insha'Allah.  I am way behind on doing this.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 03:41:41 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, I was not aware that u did this already. However, I will do some work on rest of Isaiah 42 and what I just descovered in Isaiah 52:15 in the earlier post. I think we should work towards completely dissecting chapters of Isaiah to show how many times there was a mention of prophet Muhammad pbuh by Isaiah.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 04:00:30 PM
Also bro can u link me to that work of yours, I noticed that u didn't identify the that the earlier word that u changed the kaf to a dalet. U showed the original word with vowels and and kaf and then converted it made the word without vowels and with dalet, but didn't identify the changes that u had to make. The characteristics between the 2 letters, in the work u showed above. Which is why I want to look at ur entire work so I would know next time what we already descovered and what is new that I have found.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 04, 2017, 06:13:42 PM
Brother Dawud, do you have your image files in MS-DOC or HTML or any text file?  I would like to link these files under your images for search engines to pick them up, and for also readers to be able to find them when they research for certain texts.

Jazaka Allah Khayr.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 04, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Dawud.  Great work, akhi.  Tonight insha'Allah, I am going to go through your posts and copy your precious images to this site to permanently preserve them, insha'Allah.  I am going to RE-LINK all of your images to this website, insha'Allah.  This way we don't have to worry about them ever getting erased or lost as long as this website remains alive, insha'Allah.  I am way behind on doing this.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Great  ;)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 04, 2017, 06:23:29 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, I was not aware that u did this already. However, I will do some work on rest of Isaiah 42 and what I just descovered in Isaiah 52:15 in the earlier post. I think we should work towards completely dissecting chapters of Isaiah to show how many times there was a mention of prophet Muhammad pbuh by Isaiah.

this is also done already, visualised of course

Osama take all these photos and put the on the site

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16587039_382770132100764_2094797691977364547_o.png?oh=f82b79f1c800e70e4e2349afaa6a246e&oe=59B5C64C)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16601919_382770025434108_290853502493671879_o.png?oh=e3071a998ea34293fe8197b7c3106c8b&oe=59B75C6F)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16587240_383289985382112_3922618098230334813_o.png?oh=819619b4daee71fbc8b4730f0e1ac0f8&oe=597764DC)

Muhammad in the Bible detailed analysis in Old testament and New testament
(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16602193_382469948797449_3196483273503526350_o.png?oh=c80566dd1aaa38eb5865f19b48ab6c28&oe=597C12BF)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16487299_382469955464115_241532123665815710_o.png?oh=174f3226c283d67f4bedd632dc6da03c&oe=597983F4)

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16665076_382469952130782_4648364518088096239_o.png?oh=ec6f78448b8d76354a8bce87480ca387&oe=597F8444)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16665951_382469975464113_1798994444288387739_o.png?oh=8bf6e5dc7a6ad0dd562b73ffbebfb34f&oe=5977EA8A)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16665592_382469978797446_8677834473352465195_o.png?oh=bd9ad178bec1806df942421959b15d5d&oe=597ABCA8)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16463402_382469995464111_7298238662703948731_o.png?oh=529ce8be27bc6c481d9ce130036f0bf1&oe=59849EC1)


(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16601968_383177208726723_773982246897502623_o.png?oh=266511fba52f8f0c0bd92dc4395a54c8&oe=597458C4)

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16487039_381309902246787_4141777604551171259_o.jpg?oh=80ee9496add2b4eb3176d86083e573d1&oe=59870EC5)

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/16722525_385640991813678_775377680213458491_o.png?oh=05dbd71d14b7524204b1a76d20099055&oe=59B80A68)









Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 06:47:15 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, firstly is this all ur work? Secondly, if it is hats off to u brother great job mashallah. May Allah reward you for this effort.

Also is it ok with you that when I get my own Islamic site started by ur permission I can include your work their, do not worry I will make sure you are references there but make sure u give ur full name with that work.

Lastly, u said u already visualised that, but however I found no work in reference to isaiah 52:15, if u have plz direct me towards it, I did try my best to go through ur work through however I could have missed it. Let me know. Since I already found that reference in Isaiah 52:15 and showed in previous post how it confirms prophet Muhammad pbuh, I will make that into a Doc.

Jazakallah kyar brother.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 04, 2017, 07:10:02 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, firstly is this all ur work? Secondly, if it is hats off to u brother great job mashallah. May Allah reward you for this effort.

Also is it ok with you that when I get my own Islamic site started by ur permission I can include your work their, do not worry I will make sure you are references there but make sure u give ur full name with that work.

Lastly, u said u already visualised that, but however I found no work in reference to isaiah 52:15, if u have plz direct me towards it, I did try my best to go through ur work through however I could have missed it. Let me know. Since I already found that reference in Isaiah 52:15 and showed in previous post how it confirms prophet Muhammad pbuh, I will make that into a Doc.

Jazakallah kyar brother.

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Asalam ul laykum brother Dawud, firstly is this all ur work?

yes photos are my work, while text are mostly copied form different sites and forums after analyzing in orginal text and translating everything to be sure what is going on.

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Also is it ok with you that when I get my own Islamic site started by ur permission I can include your work their, do not worry I will make sure you are references there but make sure u give ur full name with that work.

bro dont ask, just copy...i am doing this so people can spread this info to many people so they know they truth.

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Lastly, u said u already visualised that, but however I found no work in reference to isaiah 52:15, if u have plz direct me towards it, I did try my best to go through ur work through however I could have missed it. Let me know. Since I already found that reference in Isaiah 52:15 and showed in previous post how it confirms prophet Muhammad pbuh, I will make that into a Doc.

i have not analyzed that, only Isaiah 42

if you want to analyze 52:15 and present your findings here, then we all can also analyze your findings to see what the verses are talking about.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 04, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
Also brother, I noticed u didn't include that what I mentioned in my work, regards to similarities between kaf and dalet. The rest of the work isn't related to the same subject.  Nevertheless it is quite impressive work, but u have to make it clear regards to how u came up with Ahmed, that there is a need to change the kaf to dalet since it was a deliberate or coincidental mistake by the early scholars. U should definitely mention in the first part how kaf and dalet are related.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 05, 2017, 03:28:17 AM
Also brother, I noticed u didn't include that what I mentioned in my work, regards to similarities between kaf and dalet. The rest of the work isn't related to the same subject.  Nevertheless it is quite impressive work, but u have to make it clear regards to how u came up with Ahmed, that there is a need to change the kaf to dalet since it was a deliberate or coincidental mistake by the early scholars. U should definitely mention in the first part how kaf and dalet are related.

brother i used your explanation and copied it in the same photo

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18237934_425402007837576_7798449656499040448_o.png?oh=902d793b4d726c6b536314b469606557&oe=5983D738)

now you can use this photo beacuse it contains everything.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Dawud on May 05, 2017, 04:47:43 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18238167_425419717835805_6705570173455494405_o.png?oh=39f548e75afc6d19dbd088415b282dd2&oe=59874BA1)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 05, 2017, 05:20:22 AM
Assalamun Alaikum dear brother

The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible. They were first identified by Bernhard Duhm in his 1892 commentary on Isaiah. The songs are four poems written about a certain "Servant of God." God calls the servant to lead the nations, but the servant is horribly abused among them. In the end, he is rewarded.

Some scholars regard Isaiah 61:1-3 as a fifth servant song, although the word "servant" is not mentioned in the passage.

According to the majority of Hebrew scholars they speak of one and the same servant.

My point here is that if Isaiah 42 is about Prophet Muhammad then the rest of the song is also about him. We just need to dig even more and find out.

The below are the reference to the Four Servant Songs

Isaiah 42:1-9
Isaiah 49:1-12
Isaiah 50:4-9
Isaiah 52-53

The Christian interpretation of the Suffering Servant is not valid since they believe in atoning for sins of others. We need a Jewish interpretation.  Below is a link to a Jewish site. It explains the suffering servant and also prove that Christ is not the suffering servant.

http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge?filter-search=&filter-types=&filter-document-type=&filter-topics=suffering-servant&filter-featured=&filter-sort=&filter-sort-order=

The site is called Jews for Judaism

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Albarra on May 05, 2017, 07:35:32 AM
I don't get it. Christians don't really know who was Ahmed.

For instance, if I ask a pastor about Ahmed in the Bible, the pastor doesn't understand what I'm talking about.
 
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 05, 2017, 07:21:21 PM
Assalamun Alaikum dear brother

The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible. They were first identified by Bernhard Duhm in his 1892 commentary on Isaiah. The songs are four poems written about a certain "Servant of God." God calls the servant to lead the nations, but the servant is horribly abused among them. In the end, he is rewarded.

Some scholars regard Isaiah 61:1-3 as a fifth servant song, although the word "servant" is not mentioned in the passage.

According to the majority of Hebrew scholars they speak of one and the same servant.

My point here is that if Isaiah 42 is about Prophet Muhammad then the rest of the song is also about him. We just need to dig even more and find out.

The below are the reference to the Four Servant Songs

Isaiah 42:1-9
Isaiah 49:1-12
Isaiah 50:4-9
Isaiah 52-53

The Christian interpretation of the Suffering Servant is not valid since they believe in atoning for sins of others. We need a Jewish interpretation.  Below is a link to a Jewish site. It explains the suffering servant and also prove that Christ is not the suffering servant.

http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge?filter-search=&filter-types=&filter-document-type=&filter-topics=suffering-servant&filter-featured=&filter-sort=&filter-sort-order=

The site is called Jews for Judaism

What u are mentioning sounds like should be looked more into. I will do some research on this. However, we know 1 thibg, it Definitly isn't Jesus, here is why:http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/why-do-jews-reject-the-christian-claim-that-qand-his-grave-was-set-with-the-wickedq/
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 05, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
Also remember brother the Isaiah 52:15 and Isaiah 42:1 could be talking about the same servant. Also it is important to note that there may be many MISINTERPRETATIONS that are the reason why it seems. Abscure the identity of this Servant of God, but Isaiah 42:1 mentions the name Ahmed, so there is Much higher chance that Isaiah may be talking much more about prophet Muhammad pbuh, also important to note the earlier link shows how it cannot be Jesus.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 06, 2017, 12:42:40 AM
Yes brother we have a big fan l research to be done.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: AMuslimDude213 on May 06, 2017, 09:11:09 PM
This is only a claim Butzdenn,nothing has been refuted just screams without analyzing the text in Hebrew,just like Christians like about the word Echad to prove the unholy satanic Trinity.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Butzdenn on May 06, 2017, 11:08:30 PM
ACTUALLY, Refuted bec it has no grain of truth in it. You cannot just go replacing any letter just bec you think it should! The fact that the bible is incorruptible refutes the claim! Jesus is the last prophet!
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Syedsamad on May 07, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
Jesus is the last PROPHET ?
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Albarra on May 07, 2017, 12:15:16 AM
Jesus is the last PROPHET ?
No, Muhammad (SAWS) was the lat prophet, but Jesus (SAWS) will come to earth before the end of Judgment.


Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: submit on May 07, 2017, 12:29:37 AM
Jesus was the last prophet for the covenant with Israelites. With a message about Ahmad. Hence why People of the Book were anticipating his arrival in Arabia.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 24, 2017, 08:23:01 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 24, 2017, 11:07:22 AM
Brother Idris I would love to join you on your work. We are almost like an undefeatable army.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 24, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris and the rest of the brothers and sisters,

Welcome back dear brother.  Brother if you need any help financially for your research (ordering books, publications, etc...), then please let me know.  Through Paypal it can be wired to you in a matter of minutes.

I love your work, dear brother Idris, and I know you come up with amazing quality research.  So if it's costly from this aspect, then we can seal this one, Insha'Allah.

I am sorry for falling behind on getting back to you on your other enquiry.  I got busy akhi, as always.  I look forward Insha'Allah for your hard work's and research's fruits.  I am sure they will be amzing, Insha'Allah.

Jazaka Allah Khayr, akhi.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 24, 2017, 02:05:49 PM
Asalam ul laykum dear brother Idris, brother jazakallah for ur such scholarly efforts. Yes if you want me to join ur efforts please let me know. But brother this evidence is only a summary. It is as a starting point to intrigue people to look at the evidence further. It is absolutely not a complete evidence, since u have gone through so much investigation, I would love to support ur efforts and love to use some of ur material for my website brother. I will send you my email via Private Message. Also brother I only claim to make this Document and the method of presenting I used, however, I also refer to ur name and posts to show who ever challenges this work. I always give u will credit for this investigation.

jazakallah again for ur efforts. 
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: TruthExposer777 on May 24, 2017, 02:26:27 PM
Check my private msgs bro
Asalam ul laykum dear brother Idris, brother jazakallah for ur such scholarly efforts. Yes if you want me to join ur efforts please let me know. But brother this evidence is only a summary. It is as a starting point to intrigue people to look at the evidence further. It is absolutely not a complete evidence, since u have gone through so much investigation, I would love to support ur efforts and love to use some of ur material for my website brother. I will send you my email via Private Message. Also brother I only claim to make this Document and the method of presenting I used, however, I also refer to ur name and posts to show who ever challenges this work. I always give u will credit for this investigation.

jazakallah again for ur efforts.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 24, 2017, 05:46:38 PM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 24, 2017, 06:32:50 PM
Walakum salam rahmatulillahi wabarakatihu thanks brother Idris, ok brother i wont use any of the material until u give the Ok. Brother, can i still keep the work that i published on my website. Even though i made the document it was you who originally discovered it.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 24, 2017, 06:39:26 PM
Indeed brother Idris, this is quite the ground breaking discovery. I will do my best to help ur efforts brother. May allah swt reward u. Inshallah.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 24, 2017, 07:24:11 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother submit, indeed that is correct that is correct the people of the Book/Scripture were indeed waiting for a prophet to come, infact we have evidence in sahih bukhair:

Narrated Ata bin Yasar:

I met Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As and asked him, "Tell me about the description of Allah's Apostle which is mentioned in Torah (i.e. Old Testament.") He replied, 'Yes. By Allah, he is described in Torah with some of the qualities attributed to him in the Quran as follows:
"O Prophet ! We have sent you as a witness (for Allah's True religion) And a giver of glad tidings (to the faithful believers), And a warner (to the unbelievers) And guardian of the illiterates. You are My slave and My messenger (i.e. Apostle). I have named you "Al-Mutawakkil" (who depends upon Allah). You are neither discourteous, harsh Nor a noise-maker in the markets And you do not do evil to those Who do evil to you, but you deal With them with forgiveness and kindness. Allah will not let him (the Prophet) Die till he makes straight the crooked people by making them say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah," With which will be opened blind eyes And deaf ears and enveloped hearts."(Sahih Bukhari 3:335)

If notice all the things that Abdullah ibn Salam formerly known as Al-Husayn ibn Salam. Quoted summaries from verses of Isaiah 42.

Infact, we already know that they were awaiting of 3 people, among them was a coming prophet.

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 24, 2017, 08:51:06 PM
Walakum salam rahmatulillahi wabarakatihu thanks brother Idris, ok brother i wont use any of the material until u give the Ok. Brother, can i still keep the work that i published on my website. Even though i made the document it was you who originally discovered it.

Wa Alaikum As'salam, which work of mine you meant that you have published in your website?
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 24, 2017, 11:13:29 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Idris, originally it was u who discovered Ahmed in hebrew word they used in Isaiah 42:1 for "Whom I Uphold" i was wondering that i could still keep the work that i documented as the Astonishing evidence Ahmed in Hebrew DSS. Whatever work we are able to uncover together as a team i wont publish until we finish the research completely then i will add the material to my site once u r ok with it.

Btw brother i gave u my email address in ur pm inbox whatever work u want me to help u analyze, plz let me know jazakallah.

:)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 25, 2017, 02:34:55 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 25, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
Assalamun alaikum dear brothers

I'm actually so excited that we are going to do this. Come me in. This is my email address : saifmohamed1996@gmail.com
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 25, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 25, 2017, 12:15:45 PM
Asalam ul laykum dear brother Idris, sounds good brother. I actually just recently opened a facebook account with my website name. So count me in, regards to having a reserved group in facebook for this study. jazakallah.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 25, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris and all brothers and sisters reading,

Great akhi.  I look forward to it, Insha'Allah.  This will be one big breakthrough, Insha'Allah, dear brothers and sisters, and I am in it 100% Insha'Allah.

I emailed brothers Tahmeed and Submit on their personal emails and also on this forum.  Insha'Allah, they'll reply soon.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 25, 2017, 11:18:42 PM
As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

thank you once again dear brother Osama! Since, we are approaching the blessed month of Ramadan, I prefer to leave aside our study on biblical prophecies until Ramadan will end. The reason is because I really would like to concentrate on my fasting, reciting the Quran, doing nafila prayer and other worshiping duties if Allah will give permission. We have only one special month in the whole year, so lets take an advantage of it.

I will send you, and also to brother adilriaz123 and Mohamed Saif the link to my FB profile so to be prepared insha'Allah when I will open a group for our discussion on the topic. Also, please inform brother submit and Tahmeed, and brother Dawud that they are invited to join my team and I would like to contact them also per FB as well ad you brother Osama.
After opening the group insha'Allah, all the needed materials will be published in pdf to download (depending on the actual subject and section we will working on).

Ahmed (Poland)
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 26, 2017, 01:33:13 AM
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

I just deleted my test post about attachments.  It's too much to maintain.  Nevermind it.  I deleted the post.

Yes akhi Idris.  Insha'Allah after Ramadan.  Jazaka Allah Khayr for being considerate to the Holy Month.  I look forward to your PDF, dear brother Idris.  For the brothers that may not have Facebook, you can also use Google Drive to post any attachment.  I myself have never used facebook for attachments :).  So I'll have to learn this.

My facebook account is QuranSearchCom (www.facebook.com/QuranSearchCom).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 26, 2017, 02:39:58 AM
asalam ul laykum rahmatullahi wabarakatihu indeed brothers I think that is the right call to wait till after the holy month. Afterall our obligations to Allah swt always come first, even though we r doing this for the sake of Allah swt, indeed obligations always come first, thanks brother Idris and brother Osama. jazakallah.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 26, 2017, 05:07:42 AM
Assalamun alaikum dear brothers

So basically we will officially start this work after the month of Ramadan. Brother Idris are we only going to study the book of Isaiah or are we going to decode all the prophecies of Prophet Muhammad starting from the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelations?  Since many Christians falsely attribute some prophecies of Prophet Muhammad to Prophet Jesus.

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 26, 2017, 12:03:05 PM
Asalam ul laykum brother Mohamed Saif, brother Idris talked about first and foremost decoding the entire chapter of Isaiah. Since his book will be based on the discoveries in Isaiah, in beginning we are only going to stick with that. Then I don't know maybe in the future look at other chapters. Since Chapters of Isaiah are the strongest piece of evidence regards to prophecy about prophet Muhammad pbuh it only makes sense to start there. Who knows if this turns out to be very successful, we might end up working on other chapters as well. I believe this research as brother Idris said is going to take time due to the Fact that we are going to be looking at the text in their original languages and lectures, and some rare literature from a safe guarded library that brother Idris was talking about getting access to.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on May 26, 2017, 12:12:41 PM
Wa aleikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Yes dear brother, I decided that we will start our study after Ramadan insha'Allah. And yes, preliminarily I want to do a research upon all the most important prophecies related to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), but Isaiah 42 will be set as a central section from which we connect other prophecies. DSS materials also are to be included in our studies. Even apocryphal writings sometimes will be used. I have a huge e-book library with many valuable historical and scholarly publications.

Now, we will be in contact through FB

Ahmed
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Albarra on May 27, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
As-Salamun alaikum brother Idris (Ahmed),

Are you living in Poland? Is it true that Muslims cannot build a new mosque, right? 
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on May 29, 2017, 11:45:46 AM
Assalamun Alaikum dear brother Idris

Is Zechariah 12:10 related to Isaiah 53? It speaks of someone being pearced.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 29, 2017, 10:24:06 PM
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohamed,

Please visit:  https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.answering-christianity.com+ Zechariah 12:10
 (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.answering-christianity.com+ Zechariah 12:10)
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 30, 2017, 01:17:18 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on May 30, 2017, 01:18:41 AM
P.s. this also proves that disciples were not there durinf the alleged crucifixion.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 30, 2017, 06:13:25 PM
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Adil,

Jazaka Allah Khayr, akhi.  Indeed, the crucifixion is a lie.  They speak from conjecture.  Great points dear brother.  I have added your link to this thread:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2428.msg12648.html#msg12648

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Tahmeed on June 04, 2017, 05:04:28 AM
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on June 04, 2017, 12:36:08 PM
Wa aleikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother Tahmeed and others,

Jazaka Allah khayran for joining me akhi, I have send a message to you in private box. May Allah bless you too. We are waiting for you!

Ahmed
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: QuranSearchCom on June 05, 2017, 04:34:37 AM
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Tahmeed,

Welcome back dear brother.  May Allah Almighty bless you and help you with your studies and life.  Ameen.  Insha'Allah, you will have a bright career and future ahead of you, akhi.  Ameen :).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: muslimforever2012 on June 06, 2017, 06:33:27 AM
lol guys just see what happens if I translate ???? to english in Google Translate:
(https://ibb.co/fXnJna)

Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: muslimforever2012 on June 06, 2017, 06:34:52 AM
oops the image doesnt work just right click it and click open in new tab.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Mohamed Saif on June 06, 2017, 07:58:23 AM
It says "you are dumb"
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: adilriaz123 on June 06, 2017, 03:35:12 PM
Asalam ul laykum, use SDL Translation. and use the word with the dalet u will see it is Ahmed.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: muslimforever2012 on July 16, 2017, 07:10:38 AM
Ok, so since Ramadan is finished (Masha Allah time flew quickly) can you please tell me what you are going to do in this project, and if I can be of any use?.......
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: Idris on July 16, 2017, 07:20:40 PM
I don't know, as for now I do not received any answer from brother Osama, therefore I can't tell.
Title: Re: my work: ASTONISHING EVIDENCE AHMED mentioned in DEAD SEA SCROLLS DSS in Hebrew
Post by: muslimforever2012 on July 29, 2017, 11:50:57 AM
You should also take a look at this Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible).