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Title: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 14, 2012, 12:28:16 PM

Yeah this hadith. Could someone explain it to me please? A little confused over it.

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: QuranSearchCom on October 14, 2012, 03:14:20 PM

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Can you please post the Hadith and your thoughts in your reply?

Thank you,
Osama Abdallah

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 14, 2012, 03:45:09 PM

Sure. 'Allah's apostle said:Allah welcomes two people with a smile;one of whom kills the other and they both enter paradise.One man is killed in the way of allah.Later on the 'killer'dies in the way of allah and is forgiven'.What im confused about is who the killer is.The hadith says person A dies in the way of allah. Did person B kill him and if he did was he an enemy or a muslim?'Then later on the 'killer' dies in the way of allah and is forgiven'.So was person B a musim when he killed A or did he convert?If he was a muslim why did he kill A during jihad?Id be very grateful if someone could clear my confusion.Have i misunderstood the hadith?

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Final Overture on October 15, 2012, 02:21:30 PM

80i?
Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, Number 80 (?)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
I went to Allah's Apostle while he was at Khaibar after it had fallen in the Muslims' hands. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Give me a share (from the land of Khaibar)."
One of the sons of Sa'id bin Al-'As said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do not give him a share." I said, "This is the murderer of Ibn Qauqal." The son of Said bin Al-As said, "Strange! A Wabr (i.e. guinea pig) who has come down to us from the mountain of Qaduim (i.e. grazing place of sheep) blames me for killing a Muslim who was given superiority by Allah because of me, and Allah did not disgrace me at his hands (i.e. was not killed as an infidel)." (The sub-narrator said "I do not know whether the Prophet gave him a share or not.")

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 15, 2012, 06:06:16 PM

Yeah 80i or should i say 80I. I was looking at a video on youtube and a critic put this hadith up. I looked it up on a online bukhari website. http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/ And theres 2 number 80s. I mean the 'i' as the roman numeral for 1 :P

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Final Overture on October 16, 2012, 08:38:21 AM

Oh, found it. Read the chapter name  :o

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 16, 2012, 10:57:06 AM

Yes i know its about jihad and that dying in the way of allah can forgive sins (such as murder). Im just confused about if the killer was a muslim or not when he killed person A

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Final Overture on October 16, 2012, 01:08:05 PM

Not the book name, chapter name!


(28)Chapter: A disbeliever kills a Muslim and later on embraces Islam
Did it get clearer?

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 16, 2012, 01:39:57 PM

*slaps forehead* Yes its much clearer now. Thanks :P

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Final Overture on October 18, 2012, 02:33:36 PM

XD poor forehead. You're welcome

Title: Re: Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 80i.
Post by: Tanveer on October 20, 2012, 01:49:24 PM

Quote from: Final Overture on October 18, 2012, 02:33:36 PM

XD poor forehead.

Lol xD