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What's islam's stance on stuff like neanderthals and homo erectus? Apparently we have neanderthal DNA in us?
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: / No answer? Bleh oh well.
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LOL, Islam dear brother began from Adam, peace be upon him, and ended with Muhammad, peace be upon him. They people, who date back 100s of millions of years ago, were only one human-era from the many eras that we've had for the past 3.8 billion years of our existence on earth.
Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm. I think this article might help you a bit.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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ok thank you ill have a look
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Duh the Qur'an says we have a common ancestor
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I know this mightgt not help but im sure it does, though i dont no where.
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Duh the Qur'an says we have a common ancestor
Could you give me the verse(s) please?
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4.1 . O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them has spread a multitude of men and women.
And common genetic information:
25:54 . And it is He who has created from water a human being and made him [a relative by] lineage and marriage. And ever is your Lord competent [concerning creation].
Another translation is "gave relations by blood and marriage" this of course refers to common genetic information, which goes back to the first human, Adam.
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What's islam's stance on stuff like neanderthals and homo erectus? Apparently we have neanderthal DNA in us?
Even Chimpanzees Gorillas etc has more than 90% identical DNA with humans ..... but we know as muslims “Allah does what He pleases.” Allah can create His creatures in any manner that He chooses.
In Islam ,human beings living on the Earth today, are all descendants of a male and a female
Allah also says: “O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you with Allah is the one who is the most God-fearing.” [Sûrah al-Hujûrât:13]
We also see that Allah created the first male "Adam" and female ,directly from "dust ,water,mud...."" without the agency of parents ,or any kind of ancestors.
The direct creation of Adam (peace be upon him) can neither be confirmed nor denied by science in any way. It is a matter of the Unseen and something that science does not have the power to confirm or deny. As a matter of the Unseen, we believe it because Allah informs us about it.
when it comes to all the living things ,other than humans ,the Qur’ân neither confirm nor deny the theory of biological evolution or the process referred to as natural selection. The question of evolution remains purely a matter of scientific enquiry. The theory of evolution must stand or fall on its own scientific merits – and that means the physical evidence that either confirms the theory or conflicts with it.
Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî wrote:
The role of science is only to observe and describe the patterns that Allah places in His creation. If scientific observation shows a pattern in the evolution of species over time that can be described as natural selection, this is not in itself unbelief. It is only unbelief for a person to think that this evolution took place on its own, and not as a creation of Allah. A Muslim who accepts evolution or natural selection as a valid scientific theory must know that the theory is merely an explanation of one of the many observed patterns in Allah’s creation.
As for the fossil remains of bipedal apes and the tools and artifacts associated with those remains, their existence poses no problem for Islamic teachings. There is nothing in the Qur’ân and Sunnah that either affirms or denies that upright, brainy, tool using apes ever existed or evolved from other apelike ancestors. Such animals may very well have existed on Earth before Adam’s arrival upon it. All we can draw from the Qur’ân and Sunnah is that even if those animals once existed, they were not the forefathers of Adam (peace be upon him).
And Allah knows best.
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Thank you very much for the highly informative post Egyptian. :)
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Egyptian , you have said a fine thing . But I would like you to read this and see how far they lie to support their theories .
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/358632.The_Evolution_Deceit
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/358633.The_Disasters_Darwinism_Brought_to_Humanity
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/358634.Fascism
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1261526.Darwinism_Refuted
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6046218
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Thank you for the links Bro Black Muslim ......
but in order to be objective ,let's hear the voice of the evolutionists countering the objections to evolution...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution
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I personally convinced to evolution as a creation of Allah,and not taken place on its own.
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Australopithecus was an ape. Homo erectus and Neanderthals are humans. There is no transitional fossil, contrary to popular belief.
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We're all apes. Great apes in fact. 8)
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Yes. But now there is evidence that Neanderthals practiced burial rites and cared for their sick, not so primitive now eh...
Burial rites are compulsory in all Abrahamic religions.
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Yes, but how is that relevant? Neanderthal bloodlines still exist in peoples of the northern hemisphere (i.e. white people).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_Homo_sapiens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_Homo_sapiens)
They may very well be descended from Adam, but what is your point? Are you stipulating that there were prophets amongst them?
Most likely they were animists and polytheists. I say this, because it tends to be true of ancient civilizations.
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New Dating Methods Put Neanderthal Extinction Much Earlier Than Previously Thought
If the new evidence holds any weight, then the popular theory that modern humans and Neanderthals co-existed—and possibly even interbred—for millennia has just been shot down, especially as another hugely accepted theory shows modern humans didn’t settle in the region until 42,000 years ago.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112777296/neanderthals-extinct-earlier-than-thought-020413/
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^ I am aware of such things, but It would also imply that modern humans didn't interbreed with Denisovans, which is troublesome for explaining the natural blond hair of various melanotic peoples.
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/441/vanuatublonde.jpg)
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Brother Mujahid if Evolution is true than why did not Eskimos develop furs to prevent cold according to Evolution?
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Most likely they were animists and polytheists. I say this, because it tends to be true of ancient civilizations.
Yes, may be they were because after the time of Prophet Nuh Peace be Upon him whole world become polytheists but After Prophet Ibrahim Peace be Upon him a new monotheist group came into existence who call themselves Jew.
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god creates what he wills, he can create a bird that has 90% ape dna
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4.1 . O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them has spread a multitude of men and women.
Pf.. evo-illusionist propaganda. Why do we have to match our religion with this evo-illusionist pseudoscience? "a single soul" refers to Adam. Yes, we have a common ancestor: his name is Adam.
And common genetic information:
25:54 . And it is He who has created from water a human being and made him [a relative by] lineage and marriage. And ever is your Lord competent [concerning creation].
I think this means that we are made 65% of water.
Another translation is "gave relations by blood and marriage" this of course refers to common genetic information, which goes back to the first human, Adam.
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god creates what he wills, he can create a bird that has 90% ape dna
You are 100% right, mice share more DNA with us than apes.
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Brother Osama, you spelled "Ahteism" incorrectly lol.