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Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on July 29, 2013, 03:03:15 AM

 Brothers, Allah revealed some verses then after some time they got abrogated according to many Sahih Hadith. But Allah said in the Quran:

‘no change there can be in the words of God’ (10:64) and, ‘there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of God’ (6:34).

 So, how come those verses got abrogated? Because Allah said in the Quran, He doesn't change His words neither alters it. 
Post by: Tanveer on July 29, 2013, 05:28:01 AM
Because laws in the Quran were revealed according to the needs of the society. Now, when you have the Quran revealed over a period of 23 years do you think that the needs of society will stay exactly the same? Think about it. Its common sense that Allah will reveal a law when it is needed and when the needs for it arent there any more, he reveals another, better law for that period of time.

Alternatively, here's the ruling of a scholar on it. ;)
Post by: mclinkin94 on July 29, 2013, 09:05:22 PM
Brother, in order for this argument to make a logical contradiction. You have to ensure that "word" in those verses means "scripture". It doesn't. No one can change God's word--God's promise, God's plan, God's decisions etc. NOT Allah's scriptures/books. If this verse meant Allah's scriptures, then there would be a contradiction regardless of abrogation because God's words were changed in the bible/torah!

 it would be beneficial if the following points be established by the writer, as only the establishment of these points shall be a sufficient argument against the points established in this article:

1.) The words 'Kalimah' and/or 'Kalimaat' [in the Arabic language] are used only for the scriptures revealed by God; or that the Qur'an has, generally, used the words 'Kalimah' and/or 'Kalimaat' for scriptures revealed by God (specifying the verse and giving linguistic and contextual arguments to establish this contention); and

2.) The words 'Kalimah' and/or 'Kalimaat' in the cited verses (in the light of the context of these verses) imply the scriptures revealed by God.

May the Almighty guide us all to the path of His liking.

Quran 2:106 We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?