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Title: LGBT
Post by: Zakir on March 12, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
Why is there a death penalty for them (LGBT) how can the religion of peace kill somebody for that. People see this as hate and discrimination why does Islam prescribe death to LGBT is this not barbaric and intolerant.
Just want a discussion.
Title: Re: LGBT
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 12, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
Akhi you can repent and then nothing will happen other than that 4 people with their eyes have to see how they have sexual intercouse and i dont think anyone wants to have sex infront of 4 other people like that disgustingand embarrasing
Title: Re: LGBT
Post by: Sama on March 12, 2018, 03:59:38 PM

Some absurdly argue that homosexual inclinations are inherited through one’s genetics. However ridiculous such a claim may be, even if accepted for the argument’s sake, it still does not justify the criminal act. Many scientists have argued a genetic basis for a disposition to commit crimes such as burglary, theft, and sexual abuse, yet the law rightly condemns and punishes these acts. Some scientists have claimed that it is programmed into men’s genetics to be unfaithful to their partners, yet society does not deem such behaviour morally acceptable.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. From what I have been able to find: “Up to 1973 the Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) did include ego-syntonic (comfortable with orientation) homosexuality as a mental disorder. The reason it was dropped was not a change in scientific or medical thinking, but that homosexual activists besieged and disrupted psychiatric meetings and intensely harrassed and abused psychiatrists. For instance, psychiatrist Nelson Borelli was at the 1972 APA convention, and noted the following in the BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL: ‘I was there in San Francisco at the 1972 APA convention when the “Gay and Lesbian” activists forced the APA leadership to promise to drop ‘Homosexuality’ from the diagnostic manual or else there would be no APA Convention. Not only the scandal they were causing, but the activists had gained control of the infrastructure of the convention building. The APA kept the promise.”‘
Title: Re: LGBT
Post by: Sama on March 12, 2018, 04:06:25 PM
AIDS is a disease of the human immune system caused by the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). This condition progressively reduces the effectiveness of the immune system and leaves individuals susceptible to opportunistic infections and tumors.

HIV is transmitted through anal, vaginal, oral sex, and blood transfusion,

AIDS is now a pandemic. In 2007, it was estimated that 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and that AIDS killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children.

Although treatments for AIDS and HIV can slow the course of the disease, there is currently no vaccine or cure.

Scientists say that due to the difficulty in treating HIV infection, preventing infection is a key aim in controlling the AIDS pandemic, with health organizations promoting safe sex in attempts to slow the spread of the virus.

Recently in a published research, scientists discovered a new type of bacteria which called MRSA.

MRSA stands for methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, but is shorthand for any strain of Staphylococcus bacteria which is resistant to one or more conventional antibiotics.

Researchers believe that the MRSA may cause Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome; also this kind of bacteria can be found where homosexual persons are living such as "Castro district" in San Francisco in the United States. Also they added that the ratio of infected people by MRSA in homosexual men is 13 times than in Heterosexual men.

Doctors say that 20 years ago clinicians began noticing what has come to be called "gay bowel syndrome," a collection of intestinal and rectal complaints that frequently plague gay men. Many of these illnesses stem from infection by fecal bacteria following anal sex--specifically, anal intercourse, analingus, and fellatio following anal intercourse. Some heterosexual couples (estimates range from 5 to 27 percent) also engage in anal sex, and they're at risk too.

Homosexuality and purity

 Scientists confirm that homosexuality contribute in transferring viruses and bacteria between homosexual persons, so that prophet "Lût" and his family were keen to purify themselves and to be away from homosexual people, Allah says: (And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!")(Sûrat Al-A‘râf-verse82), is this verse a sign that homosexuality is against purity.

Today we find doctors ask people to wash after any sexual practice, in Islam Allah almighty ordered us to wash after practicing sex and also He almighty made this as a condition for prayer , Allah says: ( If you are in a state of Janâba (i.e. after a sexual discharge), purify yourselves (bathe your whole body))(Sûrat Al-Mâ’idah-verse 6).

The Way of Allah   

Allah almighty punish any one commits these sins by sending stones of baked clay, Allah says :( And we turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay.)(SûratAl-Hijr-verse 74).

This is the way of Allah which will never change as what happened with the people of "Lût" happened again with the people of Pompeii. 

Pompeii is an old roman city that lived in a lot of luxury. God gave people of this city a lot of graces such as the best crops, a lot of rains and many natural resources. But the people of that city were doing adultery and homosexuality and they were so proud with that. Also they used to draw pornographic pictures on walls in front of all people; researchers believe that art of pornography started in this dissolute city.

One day, people of Pompeii was celebrating  god of fire day , but suddenly and without any kind of warning  a volcanic eruption occurred which released a lot of lava. As a result, people tried to escape but all of them were killed immediately and the city was disappeared .also their bodies were covered with lava and these covered bodies had transferred after many years to be fossilized rocks. Allah says: (So we seized them all of a sudden while they were unaware) (Sûrat Al-A‘râf – verse 95).

Scenes of torment

A real photo for an inhabitant of Pompeii .the body was transferred to be fossilized rock. This punishment is in this life but in the hereafter punishment is strong and last forever, god says :( And thus do We requite him who transgresses beyond bounds [i.e. commits the great sins and disobeys his Lord (Allah) and believes not in His Messengers, and His revealed Books, like this Qur’an], and believes not in the Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord; and the torment of the Hereafter is far more severe and more lasting.) (Sûrat Tâ-Hâ- verse 127)



Another body, Allah wills to let all people see what happened to those wrong doers. Indeed what happened to the people of that city is totally identical with the following verse, God be He blessed and exalted says :( So, when they forgot (the warning) with which they had been reminded, We opened for them the gates of every (pleasant) thing, until in the midst of their enjoyment in that which they were given, all of a sudden, We took them (in punishment), so! They were plunged into destruction with deep regrets and sorrows.* so the root of the people who did wrong was cut off. And all the praises and thanks are to Allah, the Lord of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind, jinn, and all that exists) (Sûrat Al-An’âm- verse 44-45).

Finally, let us read this eloquent verses which tells us a whole story in just few words , Allah says:(The people of Lût (Lot) (-who dwelt in the town of Sodom in Palestine) belied the Messengers.* When their brother Lût (Lot) said to them: "Will you not fear Allah and obey Him? * "Verily I am a trustworthy Messenger to you. *"So fear Allah, keep your duty to Him, and obey me. * "No reward do I ask of you for it (my Message of Islamic Monotheism); my reward is only from the Lord of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists). * "Go you in unto the males of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind), * "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your wives? Nay, you are a trespassing people!" *They said: "If you cease not O Lût (Lot)! Verily, you will be one of those who are driven out!" * He said: "I am, indeed, of those who disapprove with severe anger and fury your (this evil) action (of sodomy). *"My Lord! Save me and my family from what they do." * So we saved him and his family, all, * except an old woman (his wife) among those who remained behind. *Then afterward we destroyed the others. * And we rained on them a rain (of torment). And how evil was the rain of those who had been warned! * Verily, in this is indeed a sign, yet most of them are not believers. *And verily your Lord, He is indeed the All-Mighty, the Most Merciful.)(Sûrat Ash-Shu‘arâ-verse160-175).
Title: Re: LGBT
Post by: Albarra on March 12, 2018, 04:35:39 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Pakistan's top Islamic court granted freedom for transgender people. By the way, transgender is a part of gender identity, not sexual orientation.

Death panelty for homosexuality is very rare. For example, the vast majority of people who had been executed in Saudi Arabia were terrorists, murderers, drug smugglers/dealers, spies, and enemies.