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please I gave the answer. the bible is a forgery DOT

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Refuting answering-islam.com on Ijaz Al-Quran
« on: December 04, 2012, 08:52:15 AM »
Our muslim brothers made a very good article about The Miracle of Quran.
You can see it here: http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Miracle/ijaz.html

and as always the dumb answering-islam.com made a rebuttal to this article here:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/ijaz.htm

So I need no more then refute these statements written by orientalists on Quran:

First claim to refute: Quotes provided by the "Islamic Awareness" team must also be placed in the context in which they were written. In this case, Beeston, Johnstone, Serjeant and Smith were quoting Mubarak's Nathr. The authors agree that the Qur'an is in a literary category of its own. However, on pages 196-197, they tell us:

Second claim to refute: The Qur'an is written throughout in rhyming prose (saj'), and appears therefore, to a greater or lesser extent, artistically constructed and strongly rhetorical in comparison with ordinary prose. The individual parts of a sentence, the sentence or combination of sentences which end with a rhyme and are called verses (ayah, plural ayat) follow the rhyme scheme a-a, b-b, c-c. The same rhyme is repeated not only once but as often as the author pleases, e.g. a-a-a, b-b, c-c-c-c (surah ci). Short surahs sometimes have only one rhyme. Ideally, as in the earliest surahs, the rhymes follow in rapid succession at fairly equal intervals; this also seems to have been the case with the rhymes of the ancient Arabic soothsayers. (Presumably the Prophet in fact adopted the alternation of short rhyme sequences from the practice of these soothsayers ...). In the surahs from the latter years of Muhammad's career the verses lengthen increasingly, and the rhymes no longer have the effect of rhetorically enlivening elements, but sound monotonous and often forced, as though they have been added later.

Third claim to refute: A large number of early pronouncements in the Qur'an are introduced by strange oaths, or rather asseverations, a stylistic device which Muhammad in all probability copied from the old Arabic soothsayers. page 198

Fourth claim to refute: In the earliest period of his preaching Mohammed's utterances were delivered in a sinewy oracular style cast into short rhymed phrases, often obscure and sometimes preceded by one or more formal oaths. This style is admittedly that of the ancient kahins or Arabian oracle-mongers, and it is not surprising that Mohammed's opponents should have charged him with being just another such kahin. For this and other reasons his style gradually loosened out into a simpler but still rhetorical prose; and as social denunciations and eschatological visions passed into historical narrative, and that in turn at Medina into legislation and topical addresses, little was left of its original stylistic features but a loose rhyme or assonance marking the end of each verse, now anything from ten to sixty words long. page (36)

Fifth claim to refute: vargo, Allah´s curse be on him! said this: he (Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.) did understand the power of words. Those who want to use aspects of eloquence as criteria for determining the spiritual validity and value of a text, should ponder these words of Muhammad:

Narrated Abdullah bin Umar:

Two men came from the East and addressed the people who wondered at their eloquent speeches On that Allah's Apostle said. "Some eloquent speech is as effective as magic." Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, Number 662

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (1) ?
« on: December 01, 2012, 07:15:44 AM »
wa fik akhi :)

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This is one of my favourite websites:  http://www.islamic-awareness.org/

but as always the answering-islam.com made rebuttals to all of their claims here: http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/index.html

Insha Allah we must refute their claims.

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Refuting answering-islam on Quran´s Challenge
« on: November 30, 2012, 03:52:47 PM »
wa alaykum salam dear brother Osama

so are you going to refute all of their articles?

please also check this because many of answering-islam.com´s articles are refuted here:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Miracle/

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (1) ?
« on: November 30, 2012, 03:39:52 PM »
wa alaykum salam dear brother Osama Abdallah

thank you very much for helping, I agree with your last comment, I also share this opinion.
may Allah Almighty bless you for helping His Deen and for teaching us muslims.

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Refuting answering-islam on Quran´s Challenge
« on: November 30, 2012, 07:09:55 AM »
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Miracle/

This topic is full of lies. we need to refute all of their claims.
I know it is very long and some of their arcitles are already refuted, but we need all, because I think that this is very important, because they are attacking The Prophet´s (s.a.w.) Prophethood and his everlasting Miracle.

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Al-salamu alaykum dear brother, thank you for question.

Please allow me to answer.

The story of Isa ibn Maryam a.s. when he forgave adulterous in bible is a forgery. If you do not believe then watch this: http://www.bartdehrman.com/books/forged.htm
there is not a single authentic book in bible, all are anonymous!

by the way if this story of Isa ibn Maryam a.s. is true and really happened, then
Isa a.s. broke the laws of Old Testament! Do you think that a prophet can break the law of God? Surely no!

In Misquoting Jesus, Ehrman presents persuasive evidence that the story of the woman taken in adultery (John 7:53-8:12) and the last twelve verses of Mark were not in the original gospels, but added by later scribes.[19] Furthermore, these examples “represent just two out of thousands of places in which the manuscripts of the New Testament came to be changed by scribes.”[20]
In fact, entire books of the Bible were forged.[21] This doesn’t mean their content is necessarily wrong, but it certainly doesn’t mean it’s right. So which books were forged? Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 and 2 Peter, and Jude—a whopping nine of the twenty-seven New Testament books and epistles—are to one degree or another suspect.

http://www.leveltruth.com/truetojesus.com/articles.html

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (2) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 04:05:01 PM »
I think that this topic is finished, we have solved the problem :)

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (1) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 03:33:48 PM »
dear brother Osama Abdallah.
If shuhada go to Al-Jannah without body (just with soul) it contradict the teachings of Noble Quran.
For example in Al-Jannah are Hour al-Ayn, fruits, houses. So how can a spirit use these?
Even shuhada have body of green birds.

dear brother RamziBinNabil, I think that you are right with saying this: some very good people will enter Paradise without any judgement. but then there is still a problem: if this prophet is already in Al-Jannah as stated in Quran, then why are other prophets here on earth? like Moses and Muhammad (alayhim salam)

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (2) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 03:12:37 PM »
I think that you brother Egyptian have the best answer yet.
First the word: "abauhum" does not mean "forefathers" but rather "fathers".
So there were many many generations from prophet Ibrahim and Ismail to Prophet Muhammad (alayhim salam).
Then this word used "abauhum" - their fathers, were not really warned, but their forefathers were.
So this is clear, there is no contradiction.

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (1) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 02:58:19 PM »
Thank you very much dear brothers for helping :)

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Is there a contradiction or not (2) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 01:23:07 PM »
Thank you very much dear brothers :)

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Is there a contradiction or not (2) ?
« on: November 28, 2012, 10:38:30 AM »
We know from Noble Quran that prophet Ibrahim a.s. and his son Ismail a.s. were in Mekkah and they taught Islam to the people of Mekkah. This is a fact and nobody can deny it.
So this above shows that the Arabs, or Mekkans had prophets and were warned by them and seems to contradict this ayah:
That you may warn a people whose forefathers were not warned, so they are unaware. (Quran 36:6)

now the question is: were the forefathers of Arabs warned by Ibrahim and Ismail a.s. as it is in Quran, or not? becase Quran 36:6 seem to contradict it.

Please help me giving answers.

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