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Hadiths & Sunna, and Prophet Muhammad's Person / Re: Muhammad and hafsa
« on: October 31, 2012, 08:09:07 AM »
What number is that hadith in this book?

Just asking, where does it say that muhammad ibn ishaq is one of the narrators, and where EXACTLY did u get that Hadith that u posted, u mentioned but that's where i got mine, can u please give me that EXACT link.
He got it from:

Did you check the links?

because if the caliphs did it it is obviously permissable

that is not the best concluion you could make

That gospel contradicts Qur'an.

Well, I won't go into much detail, but look at this article:
They say:
This claim of "fulfilled prophecy" is almost laughable! There is absolutely no evidence that the Quran is exactly the way it was when Muhammad revealed it roughly 1450 years ago. When it was revealed, Muhammad's companions memorized parts of it, and wrote other parts down on leaves, animal bones and other things. The Quran was not compiled within Muhammad's time, so there wasn't even a standardized text in existence with which we can compare. All we have is the faulty human memory (for recitations) to show us that the Quran remained as one uniform "book" up until the time of Uthman. Uthman, of course collected all Quranic fragments/writings/recitations together; those that he had access to, and decided what the "official version" of the Quran should be. He sent a copy of this "new" Quran off to each Town and ordered that all deviating copies be burnt.

There is good article on preservation here:

And a big page on manuscripts:

Media / Re: JewsForJudaism got hacked, lol.
« on: October 22, 2012, 08:50:38 AM »
Oh they got it back lol.

Media / JewsForJudaism got hacked, lol.
« on: October 21, 2012, 11:16:34 AM »
Can someone translate what it says there? Lol

I would like to know the source of it. I heard that it is in Ahmad..?
So, what is the source of it?.?

XD poor forehead. You're welcome

Not the book name, chapter name!

(28)Chapter: A disbeliever kills a Muslim and later on embraces Islam
Did it get clearer?

Oh, found it. Read the chapter name  :o

New Muslims / Re: Brand New Muslim (Alhamdulillah)
« on: October 15, 2012, 02:57:07 PM »
"And you see the people entering into the religion of Allah in multitudes, Then exalt [Him] with praise of your Lord and ask forgiveness of Him. Indeed, He is ever Accepting of repentance." (110:2-3)

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