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If one says to bake a cake I need eggs, then after some time, he says i need butter, then he says flour, is this a contradiction? Surely not. Those verses complete each other.

Hadiths & Sunna, and Prophet Muhammad's Person / Re: The beard in Islam
« on: September 21, 2012, 09:04:16 AM »
Just google "beardless boy islam". Ever heard of "bacha bareech"?

I didn't mean to offend.

Ever heard of "Subconscious Mind"?

In Islam / Re: Allah blesses women
« on: September 21, 2012, 07:01:04 AM »
If i hurt you, daughter of islam, by my comment, you're welcome, it was my pleasure. :)

I remember you saying: "Im Muslim". Seriously, you are just a hypocrite, why even bother spending wasting your time here?
Abu Shuraih Al-'Adawf said:
"My eyes saw the Messenger of Allah, and my ears heard him speaking when he was speaking and he said: ...And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, then let him say what is good or keep silent." (Sahih) Jami` at-Tirmidhi Vol. 4, Book 1, Hadith 1967

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet never used bad language neither a "Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say "The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character."

Narrated Abu Dhar:
That he heard the Prophet saying, "If somebody accuses another of Fusuq (by calling him 'Fasiq' i.e. a wicked person) or accuses him of Kufr, such an accusation will revert to him (i.e. the accuser) if his companion (the accused) is innocent." (Bukhari Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 71)

Hadiths & Sunna, and Prophet Muhammad's Person / Re: The beard in Islam
« on: September 21, 2012, 06:49:13 AM »
Muslim men must keep a beard because (muslim men's) looking into a beardless face gives them homosexual, and pedophilic desires. So, if you don't want other muslim men desiring you, you should keep your beard.
Hypocrites are hypocrites.

Your answers are contrary to your "moral code". Code 23 says: do not use the mosque to divide muslims. Or are women not muslims?.
And the reference goes to 9:107-110
And [there are] those [hypocrites] who took for themselves a mosque for causing harm and disbelief and division among the believers and as a station for whoever had warred against Allah and His Messenger before. And they will surely swear, "We intended only the best." And Allah testifies that indeed they are liars. Do not stand [for prayer] within it - ever. A mosque founded on righteousness from the first day is more worthy for you to stand in. Within it are men who love to purify themselves; and Allah loves those who purify themselves. Then is one who laid the foundation of his building on righteousness [with fear] from Allah and [seeking] His approval better or one who laid the foundation of his building on the edge of a bank about to collapse, so it collapsed with him into the fire of Hell? And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. Their building which they built will not cease to be a [cause of] skepticism in their hearts until their hearts are stopped. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.

I think, it's understandable

Help to achieve what? I'm sure we could find evidence that suggest that Muhammad did this and this and that, contrary to Muslim beliefs; and that could break our faith. Are we here to strengthen our faith? Or, are we here to break the faith? Is Jesus a Muslim prophet or not? Is it ok for Jesus to be insulted, but not Muhammad? Are you trying to insult Jesus? What is Islam without Jesus? Please answer all these questions.
I'm sure we could find evidence that suggest that Muhammad did this and this and that, contrary to Muslim beliefs
Find some reliable one.
Is Jesus a Muslim prophet or not?
Yes, he is.
Is it ok for Jesus to be insulted, but not Muhammad? Are you trying to insult Jesus? What is Islam without Jesus?
The thread is not about Jesus, but about Christians and their Scripture. Look: «O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book.» (5:15)

In Islam / Re: Allah blesses women
« on: September 18, 2012, 08:38:08 AM »
Who has said that He does them?
Allah Himself.

In Islam / Re: Allah blesses women
« on: September 18, 2012, 07:30:39 AM »
This quote from the Holy Quran from sura 2:37

<quote> Every time that he [Zakariya] entered [Mary's] chamber to see her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: "O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?" she said: "From Allah, for Allah provides sustenance to whom he pleases without measure." <quote/>

demonstrates how Allah can bless anyone, even women.

Who said that He doesn't bless them?

In Islam / Re: Allah blesses women
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »
Wow, calling your brother in faith just sperm and penis.. Aren't you ashamed of your words?
I'd rather die than be with a man who quotes from some qur'an how he should undermine me.
Wow, really?

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah 's Apostle said, "Treat women nicely, for a women is created from a rib, and the most curved portion of the rib is its upper portion, so, if you should try to straighten it, it will break, but if you leave it as it is, it will remain crooked. So treat women nicely."
Bukhari USC-MSA web (English) reference    : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 548

There is no path between belief and unbelief.

Most non jehova witness christians know very well that when a johova witness knocks on their door they turn the witness away.
What JW have to do with the topic?
Why would a muslim take a christians advice to read a bible, when a muslim knows very well from what she's been taught that the bible is corrupt?
And? It has some truth also.
And where is the uncorrupted gospel and uncorrupted torah they claim existed thousands of years ago?
They just got corrupted. Yes, that easy.
And why didn't the caliphs leave a copy of those uncorrupted books?
Cause they didn't have it.
And why didn't muhammad ask his own scribe to write the quran? And where was muhammad when aisha was talking to other men who narrated the ahadith if she was following hijab as one of the prophet's wives?

P.S. I don't really think that Injeel is Gospels. Cause Injeel was given to Jesus by Allah Himself, not written after Jesus' death.

Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Halal?
« on: September 15, 2012, 05:10:54 PM »
Narrated Abu Tha`laba: "Allah's Apostle forbade the eating of the meat of beasts having fangs." Bukhari Vol. 7, Book 67, Hadith 438

"Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade (the eating) of all the fanged beasts of prey, and of all the birds having talons." Muslim Book 21, Hadith 4754

Narrated by Abu Darda:
"The Prophet (s.a.s.) prevented the eating of khatafah (خطفة) [creatures that snatch (monkeys, raccoons, etc.)], nahabah (نهبه) [creatures that plunder (mice, rats, etc.)] and mujathama (مجثمة) [animals which are tied down, restricted or trapped for target shooting], and every predator possessing canine teeth / fangs."
— Tirmidhi, Ibn Maja and Nisaa'i

"O you who have believed, fulfill [all] contracts. Lawful for you are the animals of grazing livestock except for that which is recited to you [in this Qur'an] - hunting not being permitted while you are in the state of ihram. Indeed, Allah ordains what He intends." (5:1) Means cows, sheep, etc

"The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings" (3:96)

Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous." (2;177)
"And they ask you about orphans. Say, "Improvement for them is best. And if you mix your affairs with theirs - they are your brothers. And Allah knows the corrupter from the amender. And if Allah had willed, He could have put you in difficulty. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise." (2:220)
"Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful." (4:30)

what does the word "SELAH" means in psalm84 of the bible?

The word “Selah” occurs seventy-three times in the Psalms, and is found also in Hab 3:3,9,13. The exact meaning of the word is unknown, but it’s believed by many scholars to be a musical term that means to pause, or reflect. For example, in Psalm 32:5 we read:

“Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD”– and you forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah”

So when we see “Selah” it means we should pause and reflect on these words.

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