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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Seven Heavens
« on: February 25, 2017, 03:55:30 AM »
Scientists talking about parallel universe, in other words Paradise and Hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoBaJHxMdo

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 72 virgins
« on: February 23, 2017, 01:35:43 AM »
I feel like most of you either do not know about this thing which I asked or u didn't get my question , please do not answer unnecessary things I am not asking your opinions if you do not know please do not answer,Answer only to the point......

you got the answer above, it is in the hadith from prophet Muhammad.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 72 virgins
« on: February 22, 2017, 04:56:36 PM »
virgin houris are pretty creations made of transparent  matter that radiates brightness.
however female humans that enter heavens will granted much more prettier form.

not only female humans will be more beautiful in Paradise but also male who eneter paradise will be granted beautify of prophet Yusuf , which wife of the King of egypted tried to force into sex beacuse she could not resist him beacuse of his attraction, her girlfirends when they saw him for the first time said, "this is not human , this is an angel"

such beauty will be granted to male humans fro mthis world who enter paradise

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 72 virgins
« on: February 22, 2017, 01:44:34 AM »

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 72 virgins
« on: February 22, 2017, 01:43:30 AM »
Assalamualiakum my question is the concept of 72 virgins is it true that "72" virgins will be granted is the hadiths concerning it are true ??? Because no such thing is mentioned in Quran !!!

yes it is true, but not for all, only special Group of people, martyrs.

and is it something wrong with this reward , no, who on Earth would not like to get most Beautiful women on Earth

Allah knows what men wants, so he gives them what their souls desire in paradise as reward for being patient in this World to resist Zina and sins in that direction.

would you be happy with something like this in Paradise?


if yes,then be sure women of paradise are much much more beatiful than women on Earth.

if you dont want something like this, then something is wrong with you  ;D we need to do some Ruqya on you hahahaha

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 19, 2017, 05:42:00 AM »
Assalamun Alaikum Dawud

They actually did wait for two Messiahs. If you read the prophecy of Daniel 9 it predicts our beloved Prophet Muhammad. He is called the Son of Man.

Even in the New Testament according to Bishop Keldani Jesus Christ used this title as referring to a third person. Christ says that the Son of Man will be coming from the East. In the Bible east is referred to the Arabs. Prophet Muhammad came from the Arab nation.  Christ never claimed that title for himself. Christ maybe the son of man but not the "Son of Man" of Daniel 9 which the jews expected.  Christ says that the Son of Man will come with the league of angels. It is very similar to the prophecy of Daniel 9. So from this we can see that Christ did not use the title for himself since Christ knew very well who the Son of Man is and Christ didn't fulfill the prophecy of Daniel 9.

Thank you
Mohamed Saif

i have not seen convincing evidence that son of man efers to muhammad

lok this:

Luke 9:22 And he(jesus) said, "The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."

i dont think son of man refers to muhammad, according t obible it refers to jesus, but this is catastrophic error

why beacuse Jesus is not son of any man, he had no father, while title son of Man is linguistical contradiction if it refers to jesus since he had no father.
that is a problem which christians need to solve.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 18, 2017, 02:22:33 PM »
Assalamun alaikum

Jesus Christ says that "I'm not that Messiah which you expect" which indicates that there is another anointed one to come. According to the dead sea scrolls the jews expected not one but two Messiah's.  One Messiah will be priestly and the other one will be a warrior.  You can check it from the below link.

http://www.livius.org/articles/religion/messiah/messiah-9-two-messiahs/?

The Priestly Messiah was fulfilled by Jesus(PBUH) and the warrior Messiah was fulfilled by our beloved Prophet Muhammad.

According to Luke 9:21 Jesus(PBUH) strictly says not to tell anyone that he is the Messiah. 

Mark 12, Matthew 22 and Luke 20 say that Messiah is not from David. According to chapter 12 of the book "Unveiling the Messiah in the dead sea scrolls " the Messiah is from Ismael.

Finally coming to the title "Son of Man" is none other than Prophet Muhammad and not Jesus.  You can read more detail from the below link.

http://www.discoveringislam.org/kildani_chapter_16.htm

Thank you
Mohamed Saif

that was good , i did not know they waited for two Messiahs

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Reincarnation
« on: February 18, 2017, 02:13:01 PM »
One more thing i want to add

Person who are a believer or martyr, his soul will be in a bird in paradise BEFORE JUDGMENT DAY START, like his soul was in human body on earth. So imagine yourself like a bird but you are aware of yourself and remember the life you lived on earth, now in this phase of your existence you are a bird which flies and eats from fruit of paradise.
This phase is during barzakh period until your body is created in the earth and your soul goes back to it to be judged. Then human being will enter the paradise as soul + human body.

 

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:47:57 PM »
Asalam ul laykum brothers. Brother dawud as u mentioned some contridictions, i mentioned in a different theead with answers to the supposed contridictions in bible of barnabas.

Brother Dawud i used to think these were contridictions to, but the article i posted at thread which link i posted below, shows that bible of barnabas doesn't have contridictions in regards to think that it mentions that compare with quran.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2521.msg11572.html#msg11572

for me these errors in gosepl of barnabas are proof that it is not forgery but real gosepl of barnabas, beacuse no muslim would lie and claim something against Qur'an.

But beacuse barnabas started to write gospel when jesus should depart the earth, these errors are product of human mistakes, and people cant remember everything, and gospel of barnabas is not book of God that there should not be errors in it, it is human book about event which occured during those days.
And not only that barnabad could write everyhing he even said he dont know everything, so jesus said to him other discples should help him in writing some parts.


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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 09:21:51 AM »
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

You’re right brother Dawud, and I did noticed now that I wrongly expressed my self when I’ve said in my above post: „…but it cannot be said also that is entirely a forgery”. Of course, I also believe that the Gospel of Barnabas is not a forgery, Muslims could not wrote it, since it contains some contradictions, and Muslims would not contradict the Quran. If Barnabas quote it from his memory, then it is possible that he could have make some errors, it is natural.

This Gospel has intrigued me since I've discovered some very interesting parallel allusion to the text of Isaiah, and I think it can resolves some puzzled passages relating to the old testament prophecies! The Gospel of Barnabas should be systematically studied especially by Muslims.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

me to, that was really good book, you get answers to many questions, specially how crusifiction occured.

even if it was forgery it would still be more logical than bible which they have today.

as i said, i dont Think muslims made these errors, beacuse muslims would not lie on prophet jesus like that nor would we contradict quran like it.
those errors are human mistakes beacuse of bad memory of barnabas and those who helped him to write it.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:19:00 AM »
i Think i have best explanation when it comes to gospel of barnbas.

First, gospel of barnbas is not a book of God, it is barnabas memories written down in a book. So if a person write stuff from the memory, of course he will make mistakes, so those mistakes in barnabas gospel is proof that it is not forgery but actually proof that it is not forgery, beacuse if someone claim it was muslims who wrote it, then muslims cant lie, that is terrible sin, second if they wanted to match with islam they would not do such obvious errors.

So errors could arrive when person try to remember what he experienced long ago, and then start to write, and it is in human nature to make errors.

221: Jesus Chargeth Barnabas to Write

Jesus turned himself to him who writes, and said: "Barnabas, see that by all means you write my gospel concerning all that has happened through my dwelling in the world. And write in a similar manner that which has befallen Judas, in order that the faithful may be undeceived, and every one may believe the truth." Then answered he who writes: "I will do so, if God wills, O Master; but I do not know what happened to Judas, for I did not see it."

Jesus answered: "Here are John and Peter who saw everything, and they will tell you all that has passed." And then Jesus commanded us to call his faithful disciples [so] that they might see him. So James and John called together the seven disciples with Nicodemus and Joseph, and many others of the seventy-two, and they ate with Jesus.

The third day Jesus said: "Go to the Mount of Olives with my mother, for there I will ascend again to heaven, and you will see who shall bear me up." So they all went there except twenty-five of the seventy-two disciples, who for fear had fled to Damascus. And as they all stood in prayer, at midday Jesus came with a great multitude of angels who were praising God: and the splendour of his face made them greatly afraid and they fell with their faces to the ground. But Jesus lifted them up, comforting them, and saying: "Do not be afraid, I am your master."

And he reproved many who believed that he had died and risen again, saying: "Do you hold me and God for liars? I said to you that God has granted to me to live almost to the end of the world. Truly I say to you, I did not die; it was Judas the traitor. Beware, for Satan will make every effort to deceive you. Be my witnesses in Israel, and throughout the world, of all things that you have heard and seen."

And having said this, he prayed God for the salvation of the faithful, and the conversion of sinners and [then], his prayer ended, he embraced his mother, saying: "Peace be to you, my mother. Rest in God who created you and me." And having said this, he turned to his disciples, saying: "May God's grace and mercy be with you." Then before their eyes the four angels carried him up into heaven.
 


so barnbas wrote this book according to his memories and what other discples told him and remember to have happened.

and we all know, people can't remember Everything, that is why errors could have emergaed in this bible.

For me, at first errors proves this is not forgery, beacuse no muslim would ever say muhammed is messiah and jesus not messiah, or other stuff which contradict qur'an.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Reincarnation
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:07:59 AM »
There is only recreation, not reincarnation, but it is very similar

in islam, dead people shall be recreated in the soil like vegetation recreates during spring time, and when their bodies are recreated their souls will be put back in the bodies, and people will start to Wake up from Death like people Wake up from sleep.

people wll be created in different bodies on judgment day, if you are people of paradise, body will be Beautiful, if you are people of hell, body will not be beuatiful it will be created for punishment.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:55:06 PM »
i have read Gospel of Barnbas twice, i think this is not forgery even though i could see some mistakes, and these mistakes tell me this is not forgery beacuse muslims would not write like that, muhammed is messiah and jesus is not messiah etc

And even if it was forgery still it is more far far more logical text than this bible which christians have today.

what i like is jesus khutbas in this gospel, about death, paradise, judgment day hell, very intresting stuff.

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Bible Prophecies / Re: Muhammed/Ahmed in Bible prophecy, illustrated
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:23:59 AM »
The Bible proves Prophet MOSES did pilgrimage to MECCA, INTERESTING Insight by a JEWISH writer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0NvrksQr0


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